Nozybidaj Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 So to sum up whilst I see the benefit of characters that are DEFINITELY of X Orientation and won't waver from it, I don't think it outweighs the benefit of having bisexual potential in all of the available relationship-capable companions. Especially since not all of your characters are relationship-capable. I would agree to a point about having companions that are definitely of one orientation or the other if they had properly planned all this before launch and actually launched with all the romance content intact. Now however unless you want to wait years for them to come back around and do it that way, it will simply not happen. Using alternate companions from the current romance options would require new stories to be written, new VO to be recorded, new quests to be written and implemented, it simply isn't going to happen. Unfortunately since BW decided to exclude the same gender content from the game at launch they've backed themselves into the corner of the only way to implement them in a way that doesn't leave this portion of the playerbase dangling in the wind for the next couple of years is to allow the current romance arcs to be engaged by either gender. No new content needs created, no new VO needs recorded, all the triggers and quests are already implemented in game, etc. All they need to do is turn on the same gender options. Is it going to be ideal all around for every romance option? Maybe, maybe not, but I don't see any other options really. Well, no other options if you actually care about seeing the content make it into the game that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffystuffs Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Yup, there is a part of their personality that is consistent across all of them: They're heterosexual. What does that even mean? It's like saying people who like vanilla ice cream share a personality trait "liker of vanilla ice cream". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uluain Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 What does that even mean? It's like saying people who like vanilla ice cream share a personality trait "liker of vanilla ice cream". Also, simply because one is attracted to the opposite gender does not necessarily rule out attraction to one's own, to greater or lesser degree. So how do we know? They don't "seem bi"? Well, you see, people are just people. You can't tell orientation by looking, or behavior - unless deliberately totally camp, which is rare. The authors who created the characters may know, or know what they believed when writing them. But without an unequivocal statement from the NPC saying so, we don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusedMoose Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 What does that even mean? It's like saying people who like vanilla ice cream share a personality trait "liker of vanilla ice cream". Not even that! It's like saying people who've only ever been allowed to eat vanilla ice cream share the personality trait "liker of vanilla ice cream". Call me crazy, but I can totally see Kira being just fine with some strawberry. ...and now I'll cease stretching the metaphor. As I've said before, claiming all the companions are straight is illogical, because as the game currently is, they're only programmed to be straight. I'm guessing that part of the implementation of SGRs will involve the companions and our characters dealing with what may be unexpected feelings. Of course, with some, it may be just a matter of "Oh, by the way", and I think odds are good we'll have a dialogue option to be totally cool with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kioma Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Call me crazy, but I can totally see Kira being just fine with some strawberry. My JK would totally give Kira some strawberry. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luhrsen Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Imperial Agent: Uh... Actually your handler flat out states that Kaliyo may try to seduce you even if you are playing a female agent. That is why I was so confused when nothing came of that plot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
criticalvain Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 All this reading of getting new companions with the SS option and maybe getting some existing companions to also start having a SS option. Is making me want to hold off on leveling my main SI or stop flirting with Ashara until I know who the new companions are and when we are going to start getting them. If Bioware does change some of the existing companions to Bi. I hope they let us pick which ones we want to turn bi for the different classes. I'd pick Kaliyo(IA), Jaesa Willsaam(SW), and Nadia Grell(JC). Not sure about any of the other classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiellyn Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 All this reading of getting new companions with the SS option and maybe getting some existing companions to also start having a SS option. Is making me want to hold off on leveling my main SI or stop flirting with Ashara until I know who the new companions are and when we are going to start getting them. If Bioware does change some of the existing companions to Bi. I hope they let us pick which ones we want to turn bi for the different classes. I'd pick Kaliyo(IA), Jaesa Willsaam(SW), and Nadia Grell(JC). Not sure about any of the other classes. 1. I agree. Half of my characters are sitting on the bench as I level my so-so classes, mainly being my smuggler (Risha? Ugh, no. I'll stay with Corso. >_>). 2. HOW CAN YOU CHOOSE KALIYO?? Temple > Kaliyo any day of the week. (Just teasing. ) 3. I wasted my question for the Q&A thread earlier specifically on the "how" of the how and when this is coming. I say wasted because the pessimist in me believes that either they will ignore the question, or give me that same... quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 1. I agree. Half of my characters are sitting on the bench as I level my so-so classes, mainly being my smuggler (Risha? Ugh, no. I'll stay with Corso. >_>). 2. HOW CAN YOU CHOOSE KALIYO?? Temple > Kaliyo any day of the week. (Just teasing. ) 3. I wasted my question for the Q&A thread earlier specifically on the "how" of the how and when this is coming. I say wasted because the pessimist in me believes that either they will ignore the question, or give me that same... quote. Umm...Mako, Jaesa, ummmmm, urr...sowee, that was weird wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kioma Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I'd pick... ...all of them. Because I'm greedy. And because I tend to play a LOT of alts with differing tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suaine Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 ...all of them. Because I'm greedy. And because I tend to play a LOT of alts with differing tastes. Yes, that! In fact, there are some that aren't currently romance options at all that I would definitely want to see - Zenith, for example. More choice is good, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StSathar Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Another interesting approach might be making companions who aren't currently romanceable, romanceable by the same gender ... Sith Inquisitor: Talos Drellik Please, no. I'd rather stick with Khem Val (I assume that Andronikos is a female-romance option, though at the risk of stereotyping, he's a reasonable choice to pull a Zevran and go omni-sexual). PS: Moderator -- I have revised this post in order to comply with my understanding of the Rules of Conduct and believe it to be acceptable as written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparklecat Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 No new content needs created, no new VO needs recorded, all the triggers and quests are already implemented in game, etc. Well, some of the current VOs would have to record new lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozybidaj Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well, some of the current VOs would have to record new lines. Only if they are using gender specific pronouns. Besides it is more than likely all the required VO was already recorded. It would have been incredibly shortsighted not to have recorded it when the actors were doing their recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumDeity Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Honestly, this is a small part of TOR. Besides, Jedi aren't supposed to be romantically involved anyway. I think it doesn't matter TONS and while LGBT may rejoice, I think it doesn't matter when you can blow up 50-foot robots and 40-foot tall monsters and leave a mark on the SW Universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffystuffs Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Honestly, this is a small part of TOR. Besides, Jedi aren't supposed to be romantically involved anyway . 1) Jedi can already enter into heterosexual relationships in TOR. 2) Jedi make up only 1/4 of the playable classes. I don't feel as if it's a small part when I'm accosted with unwanted [flirt] options of the heterosexual variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Just read that on TORhead.com they have done a ton of datamining and have found entire planets and a huge amount of companion VO, maybe this is a good sign for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiellyn Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Just read that on TORhead.com they have done a ton of datamining and have found entire planets and a huge amount of companion VO, maybe this is a good sign for us. <3 Just made my day. ... And that's a bit sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-_- Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) 1) Jedi can already enter into heterosexual relationships in TOR. 2) Jedi make up only 2/4 of the playable Republic classes. I don't feel as if it's a small part when I'm accosted with unwanted [flirt] options of the heterosexual variety. /fix i fixed your post for you Edited February 4, 2012 by Darth-_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregMD Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I don't get how people can actually care about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cythereal Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 /fix i fixed your post for you Not really. Your revised statement, that 1/2 of the playable Republic classes are Jedi, are true. However, the original statement - that 1/4 of the playable classes, period, are Jedi - is also true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusedMoose Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Just read that on TORhead.com they have done a ton of datamining and have found entire planets and a huge amount of companion VO, maybe this is a good sign for us. Do you have a link to that? I've looked through their datamined stuff for upcoming patches, and didn't see anything that had companion VO, aside from something I won't mention here because it's a spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couac Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Actually, since they are offering such a tempting target, I was kind of thinking Austin for the Guild Leader Summit. Yes - I am entirely serious about this. That's a good idea Since they're deaf to online petitions, maybe a real life meeting has more fruitful results. And please, don't post spoilers here, I managed to ruin parts of the IA story for myself as some people didn't hide their messages :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiellyn Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Do you have a link to that? I've looked through their datamined stuff for upcoming patches, and didn't see anything that had companion VO, aside from something I won't mention here because it's a spoiler. http://www.torhead.com/guide/leaks I believe this is it? Edited February 4, 2012 by Raiellyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uluain Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Honestly, this is a small part of TOR. Besides, Jedi aren't supposed to be romantically involved anyway. I think it doesn't matter TONS and while LGBT may rejoice, I think it doesn't matter when you can blow up 50-foot robots and 40-foot tall monsters and leave a mark on the SW Universe. It matters a great deal, for many reasons. Most simply - and selfishly - I want to enjoy the same elements of play which others are already enjoying and discussing, which are not currently available to me. And honestly, in a game meant to be enjoyed, by a company which lauds itself on inclusiveness, that ought to be enough. Secondly, I don't care how small a part of SWTOR this is. BioWare has made a commitment to this material in an appeal to those of us disincluded at launch to please be patient. Well, the more we see of others wanting to compare and discuss the existing romances and [Flirt] options, the more unhappy we become not to be able to participate. And the longer BioWare goes without discussing this with us, the less hope we have that their promise will be kept in any meaningful measure, any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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