jonglynn Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Charge is game breaking in PVP. You get knocked off by a team and you can just get right back up, past any obstacles. It's OP in huttball, basically the team with the most charges will win. Just make it horizontal only.....or give it to all classes/specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonerjohn Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Agreed. Also reduce the damage of the warrior classes. They should do less damage than ranged classes even in melee range due to their armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicXX Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Or don't be an idiot that gets in the ball carrier's LoS for him to charge to? If you knock him off leave him down there and don't look at him...congratulations, you used your brain, and didn't give him an easy way back up! Revolutionary. Apparently thinking is asking too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auhfel Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Or don't be an idiot that gets in the ball carrier's LoS for him to charge to? If you knock him off leave him down there and don't look at him...congratulations, you used your brain, and didn't give him an easy way back up! Revolutionary. Apparently thinking is asking too much? This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonglynn Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 So how are you supposed to attack him if he's LOS? Can't shot him if I can't see him. OR should I just let him WALK into the goal? You are clearly smart.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenthum Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Or don't be an idiot that gets in the ball carrier's LoS for him to charge to? If you knock him off leave him down there and don't look at him...congratulations, you used your brain, and didn't give him an easy way back up! Revolutionary. Apparently thinking is asking too much? They in your side's pit and you're respawning? Better stay in the spawn and get AFK booted, else you're giving them a charge target. Don't worry, while you're sitting there waiting for something to happen, their teammates are setting up for a pass anyway. Edited January 16, 2012 by Xenthum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawestman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Or don't be an idiot that gets in the ball carrier's LoS for him to charge to? If you knock him off leave him down there and don't look at him...congratulations, you used your brain, and didn't give him an easy way back up! Revolutionary. Apparently thinking is asking too much? Ironic. If you even used an ounce of your brain, you'd realize that you're not the only player on your team. As much as I'd like to, I can only control my character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicXX Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 So how are you supposed to attack him if he's LOS? Can't shot him if I can't see him. OR should I just let him WALK into the goal? You are clearly smart.. You either jump down after him, or make him walk all the way back around and attack him at the beginning of the bridges. This buys you time for your team to rez/get prepared. If you're so tunnel visioned as to HAVE to be attacking the ball carrier at all times, even when he's in a position where it would be advantageous for you to wait, and doing so gives the advantage right back to the ball carrier, then the fault is your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicXX Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 They in your side's pit and you're respawning? Better stay in the spawn and get AFK booted, else you're giving them a charge target. Don't worry, while you're sitting there waiting for something to happen, their teammates are setting up for a pass anyway. You realize if you stand back from the edge of your goal area even a few meters, people in the pit can't charge to you? Be aware of where the ball carrier is and you'll have no problems. You don't have to stay in your spawn or even near the scoring area. You can even get on the bridge if you want, just pay attention to his location and use the bridge to LoS your approach. It's not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knifewrench Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Another thread on people complaining about warriors' only closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnowotny Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Are you seriously complaining about one of the only things that makes warriors/jedi knights useful? Please quit whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainsec Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Charge is game breaking in PVP. You get knocked off by a team and you can just get right back up, past any obstacles. It's OP in huttball, basically the team with the most charges will win. Just make it horizontal only.....or give it to all classes/specs. Yes bc range just wasn't easy enough of an archetype to play on that map with high vertical catwalks often protected by traps you want to screw with one melee class' only gap closer. How about instead you stop sitting in a convenient spot for them to force charge to your goal from the pit below. You know that pit you can jump into it as well or back up so they can't see you. If your teammates are to inept to figure this out well should have rolled with a premade otherwise you got no right to complain about your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulusss Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 i love doing this on my vanguard. As a pve tank, i have nearly 22k health in pvp gear. I get ball or wait for a pass, then just completely ignore bridges and go to pit, waiting for some retard imp to let me charge up , been doing it since launch and they just never learn. Ty for free points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daex Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Charge is game breaking in PVP. You get knocked off by a team and you can just get right back up, past any obstacles. It's OP in huttball, basically the team with the most charges will win. Just make it horizontal only.....or give it to all classes/specs. Yep it's super OP and it's so crystal clear that they are nerfing it and surely completely removing it soon. NOT! Charge is actually getting BUFFED! UMADBRO??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawestman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yep it's super OP and it's so crystal clear that they are nerfing it and surely completely removing it soon. NOT! Charge is actually getting BUFFED! UMADBRO??? I'm just a spectator, but it seems like YOU'RE mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draemos Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 nope, its fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidank Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Are you seriously complaining about one of the only things that makes warriors/jedi knights useful? Please quit whining. No, we're complaining about what is essentially free points in huttball. The game is set up around the fire pits being an obstacle, you can't just run as fast as you can into their area and score, you need to wait 10-20 seconds behind fire pits while you get pelted by the defending team. warriors / knights are A. incredible survivable, and B. can completely bypass this. This makes them broken as ball carriers. Our general strategy now is just to have a juggernaut hanging out in the other teams pit, and we just pass to him and pretty much every time he scores within 15 seconds... it's game-breaking. edit: You need to pass through the area to get out of the spawn... how do you guys propose you avoid that? That's retarded Edited January 16, 2012 by Aidank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daex Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm just a spectator, but it seems like YOU'RE mad. Can a honest man even troll silly topics like this without some smart *** interfering.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiranK Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Charge is game breaking in PVP. You get knocked off by a team and you can just get right back up, past any obstacles. It's OP in huttball, basically the team with the most charges will win. Just make it horizontal only.....or give it to all classes/specs. OMG! My knock backs on hutt ball are ridiculously OP but they aren't an instant I win button! WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?!!! Are you seriously complaining about melee classes on a map that is DOMINATED by range classes? Wow... LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daex Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 No, we're complaining about what is essentially free points in huttball. The game is set up around the fire pits being an obstacle, you can't just run as fast as you can into their area and score, you need to wait 10-20 seconds behind fire pits while you get pelted by the defending team. warriors / knights are A. incredible survivable, and B. can completely bypass this. This makes them broken as ball carriers. Our general strategy now is just to have a juggernaut hanging out in the other teams pit, and we just pass to him and pretty much every time he scores within 15 seconds... it's game-breaking. Tanks are broken ball carriers for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kricys Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) We can get knocked back 4 times before full resolve. Get another derpy on your team to use one or have someone yank us back down. Seriously, think a little. If we couldn't use charge to get places we'd be useless. Edited January 16, 2012 by Kricys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natrol Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 So how are you supposed to attack him if he's LOS? Can't shot him if I can't see him. OR should I just let him WALK into the goal? You are clearly smart.. Brain power is weak with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalaesk Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Charge is working as intended, scoring would be damn near impossible if my Powertech couldn't leap past a few firepits to get a lead on the enemy, especially with so many classes having pushes/AoE knockbacks/pulls to knock me into the pits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenthum Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 edit: You need to pass through the area to get out of the spawn... how do you guys propose you avoid that? That's retarded This exactly. Dead teammates (inevitable, even with an amazing team unless against idiots) are either A) standing around doing nothing or B) giving them an uncounterable charge target for free points Working as intended, though, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidank Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Tanks are broken ball carriers for sure. Way to completely dodge the point. Other tanks, vanguards / powertechs for instance are fine because to score the ball they need to wait for quite a while with the entire other team attacking them. This is balanced, this means you need a strong offense defending him, and strong healers healing him. A juggernaut can just go through the pit and avoid that entirely, meaning you don't need a strong offense or healers defending him, generally he'll be able to score solo. which is what makes it broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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