Catch_TwentyTwo Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 CTD and BSOD issues have existed in this game since as far back as I can remember (August 2011). I have three different computers that I play on and I have experienced CTD and BSOD problems on all of them. I'm not sure if this problem is isolated to particular "worlds" or "zones" or what-have-you but I seem to come across problems on Taris (Imperial) and lately Belsavis. This issue is well documented here on the forums as well. In the mean time, please completely remove or severely reduce death penalties until you get this worked out or corrected in some reasonable way. I am the most fanboi of fanbois (I have two very visible KOTOR tattoos) but the combination of BSOD/DEATH PENALTY is really painful. Thanks in advance... [ComicBookGuy] Worst Idea Eveerrr! [/ComicBookGuy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicrodhe Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 good thing you didn't roll a Jedi pre-NGE SWG..... Why pre NGE .? that was the CU or do you mean the perma death which was pre publisher 9 i think way way before any NGE crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzel Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Why pre NGE .? that was the CU or do you mean the perma death which was pre publisher 9 i think way way before any NGE crap. I was a Jedi pre-CU. Nobody that I can recall suffered perma-death. That was in the game for an extremely limited amount of time. I'm really really really certain of this I did however suffer XP loss when killed (read ganked by a group of 8) bounty hunters. This was a completely different penalty. The death was a result of natural game mechanics whereas here in SWTOR my PC BSODs right in the middle of a fight several times a day. So I'm looking at a potential loss of 10,000 credits a day or more from a BUG. I don't mind the credit sinks. I don't mind dying. I DO mind losing a measurable amount of credits from something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daellia Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) So I'm looking at a potential loss of 10,000 credits a day or more from a BUG. I don't mind the credit sinks. I don't mind dying. I DO mind losing a measurable amount of credits from something like this. 10k per day is nothing. I spend more than that using Fleet Passes on my various characters. That said, if you're getting BSOD, as many have said before, it's not Bioware's problem. It's yours. Update your drivers, replace ancient hardware, etc. Edited January 14, 2012 by Daellia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die_Scream Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Repair cost are far too high. "Time out" timer has got to go, even if they feel they need to punish the player some other way. There must be some way to make dying a crappy punishing experience for the player besides a "time out" staring at you. The repair costs in conjunction with skill cost are ridiculous in the game already. Forget crafting missions, they cost too much! On top of wiping out your credit gains for the last while, you just sit there and think about what you did mister! For 10 minutes../log off Edit: Show us the tattoos. Edited January 14, 2012 by Die_Scream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VioletZero Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 SWTOR has easily the most pansy death penalty I've ever seen and you guys are complaining that it is too harsh. Wow, just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmn Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) I agree and in fact I would take it a notch further and say that we should get rewards for dying. Make it so that the easier you die, the better the rewards. This will encourage us to fail better so that we can improve and become masters of failure! Rewards should also scale with time wasted and humiliation. If someone sees you die, you should get extra points. Failure is not an option -- it's a lifestyle! Edited January 14, 2012 by Shmn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VioletZero Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I agree and in fact I would take it a notch further and say that we should get rewards for dying. Make it so that the easier you die, the better the rewards. This will encourage us to fail better so that we can improve and become masters of failure! Rewards should also scale with time wasted and humiliation. If someone sees you die, you should get extra points. Failure is not an option -- it's a lifestyle! Well, given the amount of WoW kiddies here I bet they'd like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogoo Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I am the most fanboi of fanbois (I have two very visible KOTOR tattoos) Pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barathos Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I agree and in fact I would take it a notch further and say that we should get rewards for dying. Make it so that the easier you die, the better the rewards. This will encourage us to fail better so that we can improve and become masters of failure! Rewards should also scale with time wasted and humiliation. If someone sees you die, you should get extra points. Failure is not an option -- it's a lifestyle! Yes! Yes! and YES! I would totally love to see rewards for dying. That's probably the most innovative thing i've heard yet! *Facepalms at OP* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegororn Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Actually pls implement more serious death penalties they are a joke atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valperion Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Lets just remove death period. God mode for everyone I agree with this guy. While we are at it. How about handing lv50's accounts like candy. O wait... They already do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 TOR has some of the most easymode death penalties in not just MMOs, but video games in general - and you want them reduced? What is wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammur Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Pffft death penalties in tor are very very lax compaired to other games dont complain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugerbabe Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Its so strange when a player thinks the game is the culprit, if his machine crashes. Even if over a million players are playing without crashes. Like someone said, time to upgrade ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Areka Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 CTD and BSOD issues have existed in this game since as far back as I can remember (August 2011). I have three different computers that I play on and I have experienced CTD and BSOD problems on all of them. I'm not sure if this problem is isolated to particular "worlds" or "zones" or what-have-you but I seem to come across problems on Taris (Imperial) and lately Belsavis. This issue is well documented here on the forums as well. In the mean time, please completely remove or severely reduce death penalties until you get this worked out or corrected in some reasonable way. I am the most fanboi of fanbois (I have two very visible KOTOR tattoos) but the combination of BSOD/DEATH PENALTY is really painful. Thanks in advance... So because your computer has issues with the game, the barely existing penalties for dying should dissapear? O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrigan Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) If images were possible on this forum, I'd post one of the Joker saying "not sure if serious" here... EDIT: http://www.8bitbrigade.com/images/smilies/954-not-sure-if-serious.jpg The death penalty is one of the most relaxed of all MMOs I've played, and I played them all since UO. It's just fine, expensive enough to want you to avoid death, but not crippling enough to stop you playing. I take SW:TOR anytime over WoW's 10 minutes inability to play which is completely stupid. Edited January 14, 2012 by Korrigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinic Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 LOL I remember 3 weeks ago people complaining that the death penalties are NOT severe now they complain about BEING severe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imtrick Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) LOL I remember 3 weeks ago people complaining that the death penalties are NOT severe now they complain about BEING severe They're not the same people. The penalties are still not severe at all. And if the OP has problems with BSOD's, he really should be complaining to Microsoft about his repair bills, not Bioware. Edited January 14, 2012 by imtrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinic Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 They're not the same people. The penalties are still not severe at all. I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everi Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Death...penalties? What penalties? You have an option to rez right where you died and on top of that you get free stealth to move to a safe area. If the 2 minute wait is too painful you can choose to rez at one of the many medical stations in the area. And the cost? I went from 9k credits to 35k just by questing. My repairs are usually around 1k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForlornHope Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Them minor inconveniences of repairing sure beats experience debt... Edited January 14, 2012 by ForlornHope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordRedeemed Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I am the most fanboi of fanbois (I have two very visible KOTOR tattoos) but the combination of BSOD/DEATH PENALTY is really painful. /facepalm How did this troll get to five pages? Seriously, WHOSE FAULT IS THIS!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicrodhe Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I was a Jedi pre-CU. Nobody that I can recall suffered perma-death. That was in the game for an extremely limited amount of time. I'm really really really certain of this I did however suffer XP loss when killed (read ganked by a group of 8) bounty hunters. This was a completely different penalty. The death was a result of natural game mechanics whereas here in SWTOR my PC BSODs right in the middle of a fight several times a day. So I'm looking at a potential loss of 10,000 credits a day or more from a BUG. I don't mind the credit sinks. I don't mind dying. I DO mind losing a measurable amount of credits from something like this. Do you play any other game where you get the BSOD or just ToR .? Also i thought BSOD was a PC fault not a game one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die_Scream Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 /facepalm How did this troll get to five pages? Seriously, WHOSE FAULT IS THIS!? You are trolling, watch out. Repair costs too high, Timeout terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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