*******. That is all.

Taloraan! And make it sandbox content!

Again, that's for Rift. Not SWTOR.

Actually, that's what I do if I am clearly at a disadvantageous position and I don't feel like chancing the backstabs. If I can stay behind him, it has the same effect. Harder to pull off though.

Oh, we're talking about two different classes then. I'm playing a scoundrel(At the moment) and most of my abilities are melee.

Are you certain? I mean, when I was facing a level 40 something operative in a warzone on my level 27 Scoundrel, the only reason I knew he wasn't getting any backstabs in was because I was winning. It can be hard to tell from the animations alone.

I think a little movement speed is an acceptable trade for keeping my opponent away from my back while trying to move away.

Well, I wouldn't know for certain. But I know that if I did what he does in his RIFT video in SWTOR, I'd leave my back exposed. I tested it too. Strafing away would leave your back exposed. So maybe the mechanics are different than you think they are.

I saw that, but that was for RIFT, not SWTOR.

So you don't see the tactical advantage of people able to move away from an opponent and keep them in front of you at the same time. If you strafe away from an opponent, he has your back. And you lose your evasion and all that. Maybe it's different in other MMOs, I wouldn't know. But in SWTOR, strafing away is no better than just turning around and running away.

You know, I never really got why backpedaling is bad in SWTOR. I mean, I haven't really got into PVP with other MMOs, but in SWTOR you need it to keep people away from your back. Which, in SWTOR's case, includes your shoulders. So really, there's no reason to strafe away.

Yeah, that was a good idea in my opinion. Made me actually use my interrupts for things other than healing.

Just in case people missed it

Well then, since you guys directed me to this thread. Here's my ultimate suggestion: Do something gameplay related that WoW hasn't done. Something unique and/or revolutionary. I'll come back in a month to see who's voice matters more. The community or the bean counters at marketing.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Gilded having a pleasing or showy appearance that conceals something of little worth. Yeah, that. Call of Duty 4: 2007 Battlefield 3: 2011 Battlefield 3 was clearly made in response to the Call of Duty craze.

Of course it did, but that doesn't matter because none of those games were nearly as successful as WoW was. In which case, it was successful enough to warrant EA wanting to rip it off. I still don't get what the point of this argument is. It's not like I said ANYWHERE that WoW was the first MMO. Nor does it have to be the first to be copied endlessly. Especially when this game made oodles of cash. Is it any coincidence that EA's products happen to be crappier knock offs of incredibly lucrative products?

Because now it is all clear to me. SWTOR is the single most gilded game I've ever bought. It opened my eyes. It used every trick in the book to make me think that this garbage was gold and I fell for it. It's been on a downward spiral for a while now. Every change made has contributed to this being another World of Warcraft clone. And I am convinced SWTOR will single handedly kill the subscription model of payment. EA needs to learn to stop trying to copy success so much. Battlefield was just EA trying to have their own COD, Origin was EA trying to have their own steam. And now BioWare is EA trying to have their own Blizzard. It's embarrassing and a horrible tarnish on the records of the good people who work at BioWare. They need to realize that they're just puppets. They're no longer being used to make good games, they're now a marketing ploy. The game has clear evidence of good ideas getting snubbed in favor of EA trying to make it more World of Warcraft. I have now become another jaded gamer. Thanks EA.

Absolutely serious. Whether or not a class sucks shouldn't depend on how crappy the opponent is.

I think people put too much stock in the "Marketing favoring Empire" theory. It's just that Empire classes are, well, cooler. Even before the first trailer was ever released, penny arcade made this: http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/10/24

Why not? Cast time abilities shouldn't have to have more than one facing check.

You know, I have to recede some of my statements here. After hopping onto my level 27 Scoundrel to take advantage of the new Pre-50 brackets, I found myself circling around like a spaz. Although I still think that it is incredibly easy to keep an enemy in front of me. Hell, this one level forty something operative got the jump on me and I still beat him because I got behind him a lot while he was never really able to.(unless lag prevented that kind of info from displaying.) Also, you can "backblast" people's shoulders. So strafing away is not a good idea.

Yeah, I mean. Imagine it, a game NOT like WoW

Still got until the 20th. You can relax.

So...anyone hear about that Star Trek MMO that went free to play? I heard that it goes for an LoL style free to play model.

**** that, Arenanet is balls. Planetside 2 ftw.