illiam Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 For me the 1.1 patch sounds like a lot of work when it got expanded today: original: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=141695 additional: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173371 The amount the just pulled out in that made me believe this of what is to be expected in 1.2 (march) and further: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/332031/interviews/star-wars-old-republic-11-weve-already-got-people-working-on-content-for-2013/?page=1 For me that likes PvE: expanded operation in 1.1 and flashpoint after a month and a new planet as well as an operation in march. That is speed compared to some other game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armaghost Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Let me get this straight. You are upset because BioWare's first MMO, which released with WAY more content and features than your beloved WoW doesn't have all the features that WoW currently has (with 7 years of live development and untold millions in maintenance development) as well as new and unseen features?? Seriously??? The game is ONE MONTH OLD Kids these days.. I swear.. Pretty much this, I knew what I was signing up for when I bought this game at release. I'd have to put up with a few months of live bugs. Soon it'll be like WoW is now in terms of buggy states. Soon it'll have its own cool features (like capital ships ). I could have bought the game a year down the road and not put up with the bugginess. I'm excited to see this game grow up. It's just sad some people expected perfection at launch. WoW was far from perfect at launch. They've had 7 years of live servers + weekly maintenance. This game is one month old on live servers. And so far despite a mishap here or there that I've had to put up with. I love this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selaik Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 How does he "lose"? WAR was a much more fun game than this single player version of WoW is. LOL you got it buddy . don't you have something to do I'm sure the pandas are all worried about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerumhora Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Pretty much this, I knew what I was signing up for when I bought this game at release. I'd have to put up with a few months of live bugs. Soon it'll be like WoW is now in terms of buggy states. Soon it'll have its own cool features (like capital ships ). I could have bought the game a year down the road and not put up with the bugginess. I'm excited to see this game grow up. It's just sad some people expected perfection at launch. WoW was far from perfect at launch. They've had 7 years of live servers + weekly maintenance. This game is one month old on live servers. And so far despite a mishap here or there that I've had to put up with. I love this game We're both in different situations then. . I'm glad you enjoy the game, but I personally can't deal with putting up with a few months of live bugs at the expense of my wallet. I may check the game out at a later date, but for now I have cancelled my subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerumhora Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 LOL you got it buddy . don't you have something to do I'm sure the pandas are all worried about you. I don't quite get what you're going for. What about pandas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armaghost Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 We're both in different situations then. . I'm glad you enjoy the game, but I personally can't deal with putting up with a few months of live bugs at the expense of my wallet. I may check the game out at a later date, but for now I have cancelled my subscription. And there is nothing wrong with that ^^, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoggyMack Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Why such negativity to WoW? Do you like it or not it is much better produced game. Too bad it is 7 years old and we all tired of it. Do you think SWTOR will survive 7 years or even 1? WAR did not and I think it was better game. Why such negativity? Probably because it's 7 years old and people are tired of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigota Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Well you can say very constructively farewell to the TS but i kind of agree with him. Let me look it from a purely pve perspective because i like pve a lot more. In my opinion WoW is totally not fun anymore you get gear while you raid which is worthless because content is coming in fast and higher gear levels are required again and all raids feel more and more the same. For example you did HC BoT and BD then firelands normal is there with better gear. The whole gear farming, enchanting, gemming, theorycrafting, reforging, echanting with rep, etc gets so boring. (played it since classic wow patch 1.4 or so) Swtor, the thing is im still not 50 yet(45) and i expected that i would really enjoy the levelling but it is turned out the opposite, because i get really tired of doing quests its draining energy from me. In flashpoints immortal bugged boss or some fire from rockets who are off and still kill you those things hit me hard. Finding groups is not always easy especially when your dps. I expected that this game was more. But it is just feels a bit empty and buggy. I hope the raiding experience will be awesome when i start. I still believe this game has a lot of potential though. Edited January 13, 2012 by Rigota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfabulous Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I love all the people who freak out when you mention WoW, they utterly despise that game. Yet they're playing a Copy/Paste that got reformatted by Notepad when you dragged it out of Microsoft Word, but will defend it to the end of days, while hating exactly what it is. If you really can't see that this is WoW with fancy voices, you are in dire need of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaverhero Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 If you set your expectations too high on anything you will be disappointed. I laugh when I see folks who have been signed up on this board for over six months gasp in disappointment. All it seemed to have gotten them is two extra days of play time to a game they don't even like. Why not have a fraction of the patience you had anticipating the release over multiple business quarters? I started on these boards when I joined the near-open beta on Thanksgiving. I'm not disappointed with this product at all! I'm having a great time with this game and it is fulfilling my expectation of being a good time waster before Diablo 3, GW2 and MoP. Between paying for the no-frill digital download of the game and a few months of some subscription time, I'll be happy to have shell out the $120 that Bioware will have earned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHogger Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Do you see gnomes here, I don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerumhora Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Well you can say very constructively farewell to the TS but i kind of agree with him. Let me look it from a purely pve perspective because i like pve a lot more. In my opinion WoW is totally not fun anymore you get gear while you raid which is worthless because content is coming in fast and higher gear levels are required again and all raids feel more and more the same. For example you did HC BoT and BD then firelands normal is there with better gear. The whole gear farming, enchanting, gemming, theorycrafting, reforging, echanting with rep, etc gets so boring. Swtor, the thing is im still not 50 yet and i expected that i would really enjoy the levelling but it is turned out the opposite, because i get really tired of doing quests its draining energy from me. In flashpoints immortal bugged boss or some fire from rockets who are off and still kill you those things hit me hard. Finding groups is not always easy especially when your dps. I expected that this game was more. But it is just feels a bit empty and buggy. I hope the raiding experience will be awesome when i start. I still believe this game has a lot of potential though. I felt exactly the same way. I enjoy PVE and PVP and think that both are a necessity for a successful MMO. Doing quests is very draining to the point where I zone out due to sheer boredom. Everything is very far away as well, but I'm used to long walks like I had to cope with back in FFXI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigota Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I felt exactly the same way. I enjoy PVE and PVP and think that both are a necessity for a successful MMO. Doing quests is very draining to the point where I zone out due to sheer boredom. Everything is very far away as well, but I'm used to long walks like I had to cope with back in FFXI. That to indeed there are a lot of posts that speeders can be faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodwulf Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 What I find amusing is how people, who are entralled with the game play, manage to post in every naysayer post...How do you know these post are being posted? Aren't you playing? You can't all be "at work" (at Bioware or EA?)? You know "Fan-boi" isn't a proffesion. *** Full disclosure ***** SWG pre-cu -NGE, deleted "Elder" Jedi 6 months after launch of NGE WoW vanila- Wrath, deleted PvP rank 11 Troll Warrior, 3 lvl 70s and lvl 60 Many other "Great" MMOs that the local Fan-bois defended until they became F2P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandemTandem Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Do you see gnomes here, I don't think so nope! but i see Jawa's /punt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntoniusDelitan Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I can understand that, but what was WoW's development cost as opposed to SWTOR's? Shouldn't there be a certain standard set in place as of present? Doing quick google searches, I found: WoW = $100 Million SWTOR = $80 Million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ljungen Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I have played with others for majority of the leveling to 50 and all I do @50 is group/raid content. If you play it as a singleplayer game it will feel like one. But thats your own fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guldun Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 It was rushed to hit the Xmas market by EA. It's a shame they did not give it afew months more, but in my eyes they failed I will not be continuing. Still maybe in 6 months time I will give it a go when it goes F2P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerumhora Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Doing quick google searches, I found: WoW = $100 Million SWTOR = $80 Million You mixed the two up. You also didn't narrow the quick google search to "initial development cost" for the particular games. Wow had $63 million dev cost according to http://digitalbattle.com/2006/06/15/world-of-warcraft-cost-63-million/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerumhora Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 It was rushed to hit the Xmas market by EA. It's a shame they did not give it afew months more, but in my eyes they failed I will not be continuing. Still maybe in 6 months time I will give it a go when it goes F2P. It'll be quite enjoyable when that happens. Maybe I'll get my money's worth after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimpy Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Let me get this straight. You are upset because BioWare's first MMO, which released with WAY more content and features than your beloved WoW doesn't have all the features that WoW currently has (with 7 years of live development and untold millions in maintenance development) as well as new and unseen features?? Seriously??? The game is ONE MONTH OLD Kids these days.. I swear.. Seroiusly?? !! So tired to see ppl talking about wow and how it suxed when it came out, this game came out 2012 (111220) it has copy alot from other games, so why should they not copy the good part too ? the guild system sux, pvp system sux, pve system sux, only good thing is the storylines. Why do you think every review are talking about the story so darn much ? Because they have nothing else to say about this game. And dont try to be so cool and say stuff like "kids there days.. i swear" what are you gonna do to them? find them and beat them up? 100 euro that you are just a little #### behind your deskop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anelitt Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Agree, this is a 6 dollar steam quality game. The initial purchase price + monthly fee are borderline hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarokJC Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Agree, this is a 6 dollar steam quality game. The initial purchase price + monthly fee are borderline hilarious. So is the idea that you were able to type this after careful mature thought, but we've all got differing senses of humor, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anelitt Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 So is the idea that you were able to type this after careful mature thought, but we've all got differing senses of humor, right? No, i am deeply sorry i disagree with you about the quality of this game, it shall never happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarokJC Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 No, i am deeply sorry i whine about the quality of this game without presenting any specific examples or suggestions, it shall never happen again. Fixed that for you, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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