Xinika Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Tried Kinetic today for the first time and loved the survivability, but I couldn't seem to really hurt anybody at all. Ended up trying Balance for the heck of it and will never spec that again. But Infiltration is just the most fun to me. The burst from it is just so great that I can't really see myself playing a different spec. Especially because clairvoyant strike si my favorite move in the game. The burst is useless in competitive PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysx Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) The burst is useless in competitive PvP. There's no such thing as competitive PvP at this point. Unless you're going against the same premades and the additional 4 members on both teams remain relatively constant in skill level and gear every time. And I would still disagree if such a thing even existed. Edited February 12, 2012 by Alwaysx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerr Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 without competitiveness this game will die. I hope to god it would. What world are we living in? Is this Hello Kitty Island Adventure or is this Star Wars.. It's meant for battle against the two sides. It's destined for rated play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouzanpaku Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) The burst is useless in competitive PvP. there is no competitive PvP in the game if this will not change ASAP there will be no PvP at all: - WZ queue on my server (republic side where imps have 4x numbers) are longer and longer - each WZ several people leaves after first sign of lost game - out of 5 WZ 3 times I am entering in the middle of the lost battle where people are mass quitting - AFK people in every 2nd wz - Ilum = base camping - my guild has 150 people - have not seen more then 10 online for a week+ Either the change will come or people will go - easy as that Back to the original topic - in current terrible environment burst rulez. Edited February 12, 2012 by Ryouzanpaku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexp Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The burst is useless in competitive PvP. What game are you playing? Are you saying shadows would be useless in anything rated? Or that other specs would come out way ahead? I disagree with both either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMKSED Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The hybrid spec is still better than pure infiltration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagatha Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Been going back and forth(I really hate skill respec costs ) with kinetic and infiltration over this last weekend. Over 25 valor ranks trying stuff out and I must admit that clairvoyant strike just beats double strike so bad that rest doesn't matter. Burst is good as "full"(1/30/0) infiltration lvl41. Harnessed shadows, slow time and force pull are great tools but thats just it, just tools. Not sure if out-of-stealth spinning kick will change this because that's just so many tools. EDIT: Went and tried kinetic once more. Never back to infiltration, never! Edited February 13, 2012 by shagatha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothermonterr Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 With the nerf to surge, what would be more beneficial? It seems surge DR is stuck at 72% more or less. should i keep this "2 or 3%" of surge, or lower it to 70% and add some accuracy/power instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurgo Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I cannot understand how could you land 2 projects almost instantly... I am new to shadows, was used to run a powertech (pwned any shadow i fought) and now i wonna try this class. Tnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briljin Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I cannot understand how could you land 2 projects almost instantly... The Upheaval talent gives a chance for project to fire off a second damage component but it does 50% of the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerr Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 dps commentary video uploading now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerr Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 going to be editing these threads tonight when i'm home from class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxaconexx Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 ooc: why was the tanking guide stickied but this one wasn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerr Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 ooc: why was the tanking guide stickied but this one wasn't? no idea heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellisf Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Bumping this guide because it is simply awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardya Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) If Kinetics put up better DPS it is only because they have more uptime. I think all would agree infiltration is better DPS with the same uptime. I think all the crazy good numbers (videos) from infiltration spec are a result have having a healer who knows and concentrates on the infiltration shadow. Or just be a good healer and the shadow stays in his LOS. Edited February 20, 2012 by richardya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexp Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Infiltration is fine even without a healer, just need proper use of defensive cooldowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackenzae Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 infiltration is okay.. kinetic is still better for pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 If Kinetics put up better DPS it is only because they have more uptime. I think all would agree infiltration is better DPS with the same uptime. I think all the crazy good numbers (videos) from infiltration spec are a result have having a healer who knows and concentrates on the infiltration shadow. Or just be a good healer and the shadow stays in his LOS. Infiltration for close up. Balance for ranged. I wish I could have both for being all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 infiltration is okay.. kinetic is still better for pvp. Only if you're tanking and in PvP that's not the best approach imho. And honestly that's not worth it. I'd rather burn them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerr Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 everyone needs to realize that you need to play whatever your team you are playing with needs. This is a team game, the game is balanced from team play. That being said, there is NO BEST SPEC, kinetic and burst spec are both amazing. that being said, to re-instill CONFIDENCE in playing dps spec, which many have lost faith in.... I have been streaming exclusively almost 24/7. Please come watch me and my guildies play we got a real sweet thing going. I interract to all chat questions and to my viewers, as well as let you hear our entire ventrilo channel. Just be sure to follow me on there. The link is in my signature. my streaming schedule is also on my background of my stream off to the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerr Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 I just updated this bad boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xienive Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Been loving the streams so far, even caught a bit of the Sage. You going to be a healer or dps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnniBeast Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Can someone please expin to me how the pre-requirements make this surge useful? Don't get me wrong, the combition creates the most fatal DPS I've ever seen in the game but with many long cooldowns (1:30 for force potency and 2:00 for battle readiness and 3:00 for adrenals) I just don't see how this can become useful other than maybe a 20 second burst every 3 minutes, which when you think about it isn't all that much. Is there some sort of cooldown killer I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnniBeast Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Oh and power one more thing, do you prefer power and accuracy or do you use surge and crit for your equipment because it looks like you're crating an awful lot in the videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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