JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Your are simply just..... wrong. Arensal starts dishing out the damage after they stack 5 tracer missiles on you. FIVE. What are you doing in the meantime while they are casting on you for that amount of time? nope they are OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Bounty Hunter/ Trooper Grav round and tracer missile do need to be looked at. I myself changed from healer to no skill required build and it is fun to kill people in under 4 seconds then tab target kill the next under 4 seconds then tab target. If someone is on you then you just pop bubble then missile spam, knock them back then missile spam some more. It was too easy though so I changed back to healer. I like using more than 3 skills. right on this is one of the reasons im complaining about the OP bounty hunter/trooeprs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joskara Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Can someone PM or post where they said assassins/sage/sorc/shadows are getting nerfed? Noone is getting nerfed. Chill out... Just read the ac forums. They are all underpowered. Edited January 11, 2012 by Joskara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevrik Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 nope they are OP Thread done - I mean, who can argue with this superiour reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Your not killing anyone in under 4 seconds with missile spam that has a cast of 1.5 seconds..that would mean that you get two missile that each deal 8k.. That would mean you would need to double stack all the adrenals and expertise buffs and be in full damage battlemaster gear See how impossible this is. actualy its not impssible when your playing an OP class like bh and trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeedodemus Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 People complain about me (gunslinger) on my server all of the time because I usually get the destroyer medal. From experience this is an l2p issues, which is exactly why kids should **** about balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Got to 50 and full champ gear. Rerolled BH Arsenal Merc, now doing more than twice the next closest class in PvP. Its overpowered, everyone knows its overpowered, its why you see over half the battleground as this build (or the Trooptard equivalent) now. Everyone complains about Operatives, but I am lucky to see one in a Battleground. And before anyone says I am defending it because I play one, I dont have one. Operatives do some nice opener burst, but their sustained DPS is pretty average, and I rarely find myself dying to one (usually only if I am busy fighting some other players and they get me while my cc breaker is down). Also they drop pretty fast once you switch to them. BH Merc and Trooptards on the other hand are very hardy, and dont die easy, dispite having the highest sustained DPS in the game at the moment. I'd like to see some actual balancing done so we see a nice even mix of classes in PvP again. this person knows what he is talking about thank you another person that see's something thats needs a nerf when he see's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machazareel Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Bounty Hunter/ Trooper Grav round and tracer missile do need to be looked at. I myself changed from healer to no skill required build and it is fun to kill people in under 4 seconds then tab target kill the next under 4 seconds then tab target. If someone is on you then you just pop bubble then missile spam, knock them back then missile spam some more. It was too easy though so I changed back to healer. I like using more than 3 skills. You realise that everyone who actually plays the class and spec knows you're lying, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Can someone PM or post where they said assassins/sage/sorc/shadows are getting nerfed? its what i heard about on another thread apparently in febuary :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Thread done - I mean, who can argue with this superiour reasoning. i cant get any simpler than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchAUstin Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 OP forgot about the most played and most OP class Sage/Sorc Probably because he is one....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universalchild Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Were is the search function in these forums!!? Why can't I pass all these silly threads!? WHY!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 People complain about me (gunslinger) on my server all of the time because I usually get the destroyer medal. From experience this is an l2p issues, which is exactly why kids should **** about balance. no an l2p issue but a overpowerd class issue the only people that need to l2p are the players abuseing exploits and bugs and overpowerd broken class's and builds that are clearly OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovahbrah Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Got to 50 and full champ gear. Rerolled BH Arsenal Merc, now doing more than twice the next closest class in PvP. Its overpowered, everyone knows its overpowered, its why you see over half the battleground as this build (or the Trooptard equivalent) now. Everyone complains about Operatives, but I am lucky to see one in a Battleground. And before anyone says I am defending it because I play one, I dont have one. Operatives do some nice opener burst, but their sustained DPS is pretty average, and I rarely find myself dying to one (usually only if I am busy fighting some other players and they get me while my cc breaker is down). Also they drop pretty fast once you switch to them. BH Merc and Trooptards on the other hand are very hardy, and dont die easy, dispite having the highest sustained DPS in the game at the moment. Just because ou think it's overpowered, doesn't mean everybody else does, sorry. If you're doing twice the damage if other classes, you're doing one of two things: you're either ignoring objectives and just pewpewing, or your teammates are bad. Pick one. Gunnery commandos are the most stationary class in the game, outside of maybe sniper/gunslinger. They're easily interruptible, and once interrupted, most of them run around like a headless chicken. They're not unbeatable. Any class can beat any other class in this game at equal gear levels. We only have high sustained dps if you don't interrupt us, and I you don't, you deserve to be turreted to death anyways. The only reason you see most troopers running around as gunnery is due to the fact that assault is underwhelming, not because gunnery is overpowered. You're not a special snowflake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) OP forgot about the most played and most OP class Sage/Sorc Probably because he is one....... the only prblem they have is the bubble it needs a 1 minute CD and needs to cost more force to use it, this way it cant be spammed and has to be used wisely. also to reduce the cooldown a bit there should of been a passive in the sage/sorce healing tree high up o reduce the cd by 30 seconds and 15 seconds per point spent in of max 2 and nope im an assasin not a sorc Edited January 11, 2012 by JediDuckling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myst Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 To be honest, I play a shadow and I have been dominating most of the games I play in PvP =/ I usually bring my healer and tank along sure, but you can't expect to be viable in a PvP game by trying to play solo against a group who are on comms. Why not be more organized when you join a PvP game and plan your tactics based on who you come up against, be it an operative, sorc, Merc etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukakuu Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'm enjoying this topic because it's almost exactly similar to a warzone in the way that nobody pays attention to the power of my class because everybody is off complaining about certain upper hands one class gets while forgetting to use theirs. Every time I saw the subject of Trooper its always grav round or something which ultimately means that Commando is the one being complained about. Its called Line Of Sight. I do it with BH and that stupid lightning. I'm just wondering when the day will come when people realize the damage I do as an Assault Specialist Vanguard and tag team up like everybody is doing now for Ops/Scouns. I don't know many Ops, Snipers, Juggarnauts, Marauders or well anything that can get burst crits ranging from 8-11k in about as long as it takes to insta cast, wait for global cd and then insta cast again. I don't even need to stun you, I can do it while running and snaring lol. If nobody wants to point the finger at me, then I will because right now a 2v1 on Ilum isn't a fair match for the Imps that have to fight me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Just because ou think it's overpowered, doesn't mean everybody else does, sorry. If you're doing twice the damage if other classes, you're doing one of two things: you're either ignoring objectives and just pewpewing, or your teammates are bad. Pick one. Gunnery commandos are the most stationary class in the game, outside of maybe sniper/gunslinger. They're easily interruptible, and once interrupted, most of them run around like a headless chicken. They're not unbeatable. Any class can beat any other class in this game at equal gear levels. We only have high sustained dps if you don't interrupt us, and I you don't, you deserve to be turreted to death anyways. The only reason you see most troopers running around as gunnery is due to the fact that assault is underwhelming, not because gunnery is overpowered. You're not a special snowflake. of course your a trooper your going to try and keep your class overpowerd. they are clearly a problem and need to be nerfed. if you didnt abuse the class in the first place and get so used to being god mode you would of learnt how to time your abilitys and be able to play your class. in order to be good at a game picking the most OP class's are not going to do that for you. play an underpowerd class and learn to pvp or play from there. thats what i did which is why im an assasin and why im pretty good at the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 To be honest, I play a shadow and I have been dominating most of the games I play in PvP =/ I usually bring my healer and tank along sure, but you can't expect to be viable in a PvP game by trying to play solo against a group who are on comms. Why not be more organized when you join a PvP game and plan your tactics based on who you come up against, be it an operative, sorc, Merc etc.? anyone can beat someone 30 lvl's lower than you come on its not hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'm enjoying this topic because it's almost exactly similar to a warzone in the way that nobody pays attention to the power of my class because everybody is off complaining about certain upper hands one class gets while forgetting to use theirs. Every time I saw the subject of Trooper its always grav round or something which ultimately means that Commando is the one being complained about. Its called Line Of Sight. I do it with BH and that stupid lightning. I'm just wondering when the day will come when people realize the damage I do as an Assault Specialist Vanguard and tag team up like everybody is doing now for Ops/Scouns. I don't know many Ops, Snipers, Juggarnauts, Marauders or well anything that can get burst crits ranging from 8-11k in about as long as it takes to insta cast, wait for global cd and then insta cast again. I don't even need to stun you, I can do it while running and snaring lol. If nobody wants to point the finger at me, then I will because right now a 2v1 on Ilum isn't a fair match for the Imps that have to fight me. i can use my class perfectly fine and can use my class well but its lacking compared to these OP class's and either buff assasins so they are in comparison lvl with the OP class's or nerf the Op class's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovahbrah Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 of course your a trooper your going to try and keep your class overpowerd. they are clearly a problem and need to be nerfed. if you didnt abuse the class in the first place and get so used to being god mode you would of learnt how to time your abilitys and be able to play your class. in order to be good at a game picking the most OP class's are not going to do that for you. play an underpowerd class and learn to pvp or play from there. thats what i did which is why im an assasin and why im pretty good at the game Seriously, how old are you? 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furyofwar Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) ok this is getting rediculous here are some class's that need nerfing [troopers and bounty hunters] these 2 class's need seriously looking at not only can they do stupid amounts of damage but they are stupidly hard to put down and to top it off they can heal themselves as well and have armor pen i mean what was bioware thinking giving a class the ability to be DPS heal tank. bounty hunters rocket spam needs a nerf also. [sith warriors and jedi knights] ok again DPS sheild tanks ive seen these do stupidly high damage and you cant even scratch them. whats with the 8k aoe spam thats another ability that needs a nerf [Operatives and scoundrels] if your not getting knocked to the ground and back stab pwned in 2 seconds or less your getting perminantly stun locked until death.crazy damage that needs nerfing and what i cant understand out of all those OP and unbalance class's is why assasins and shadows are getting nerfed the underpowerd class ? are you for real ? all those OP unbalanced class's and the one thats underpowerd get the shaft ? full dps assasins are squishy as hell and die stupidly fast they have no defense's no heals no sheilds and are melee. you have to stealth for that 6 seconds of force regen buff when exiting stealth to get a good amount of dps off before you get face rolled. then we have to spam all our cd's to stay alive if we dont die before useing them that is. even fully pvp geared 50 assasins/shadows get face rolled. all i ever see in warzones are trooper/bounty hunters scoundrels/operatives and now i know why im beggining to see alot more jedi knights and sith warrios now also it seems consulars and inquisitors are toning down because they are lacking. people neeed to get facts straight i cant understand why underpowerd class's get nerfed and OP class's stay how they are or get buffed i could never understand why this happens lol but its silly You basically just said nerf every class but one. Which is most likely the one you play. Inqus/Counselor is you class most likely. Which would make everything you just said invalid and biased based on your own personal skill level at this game. Edited January 11, 2012 by Furyofwar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Seriously, how old are you? 12? eh im 26 and im not the one acting like a kid because they dont want there god mode class geting nerfed. sorry but its true im stating facts about class's that something needs to be done and all im getting from people are off topic posts harasing me and trying to take me off the subject of what i origonaly posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazingShadow Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 its what i heard about on another thread apparently in febuary :/ So all your incoherent babble is based on nonsense and heresay. GReat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 You basically just said nerf every class but one. Which is most likely the one you play. Inqus/Counselor is you class most likely. Which would make everything you just said invalid and biased based on your own personal skill level at this game. my skill lvl is perfectly fine and im good at the game dispite that assaisns are underpowerd and everyone else is abuseing the OP class's and builds bugs and exploits and item stacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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