HillbillySith Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Weird, before I had this patcher issue my comp was running 15-18c idle and 45-50c in warzones /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillbillySith Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 What tower are you using? As you can have state of the art components inside, but without getting the heat out of the tower. Many things its enough it got some holes here and there, but in my case that won't help.. I have had heating issues in many games, and a boiling hot tower.. I got my self an Tower with a large fan on top, and 2 at the front and 1 at the back.. it can be heard yes, but my computer have never been above 60 degrees Celsius, on GPU and CPU is way lower in temperature.. same here, i have 3 fans on the side, 2 on the back and one on top with perforations allover the case. God help me if theres a dust storm but it wont overheat =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boundd Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 My 4870 idled at 89c peaked at 104c under 100% load before I cleaned it out. Lol. Nothing to do with star wars was just putting my 2c in regarding tempretures.. Any game could over heat your components, not SWTOR's fault imo.. It's about load that builds temp. Any similar load regardless of what it was (even if it's not a game) would heat the GPU up to the same temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valamen Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I have a Intel core i7 950 3.07GHz cpu.16Gb ram NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 Before patch 1.02 i ran SWTOR in high quality and 1920 x 1080 without any issues.After the patch my gfx cpu gets to about 83 - 84 degrees celcius, and my computer does a hard reset (i suspect due to overheating). im using driver version 8.17.12.8562 date 15-10-2011 (285.62) .I checked yesterday there is no updated drivers. Only thing diffrent between now and last week on my rig is patch 1.02. So either my card broke, and its a coincidence, or the patch does "something nasty" I now have to play in 1680 x 1050 and low quality, or my computer keeps resetting.I can play BF3 and Skyrim without any problems at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putok Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Gentlemen, it appears were are the ignored and the forgotten. The reason why GPUs are overheating is because of bad coding. All it takes is somebody checking to see what commands and instructions are being sent to the GPUs. I am not an expert, but it seems like Bioware doesn't have anybody willing or competent to even look into this severe, deadly problem. Some guy I don't even know lost his computer last night. He is an associate of my friend's wife. "Yeah, I was playing TOR and my video card fried out." Inexcusable. You want candy. You take a bite. You burn your mouth due to excessive heat. You buy a car. You put gas into it. Your car explodes. How is that YOUR fault? You install SW:TOR on a gaming machine....you need to WATCH OUT and play Star Wars: Temperature Monitor Control.....BOOM.....fried computer due to excessive heat. My machine doesn't even struggle to run this and it's hotter than Jessica Alba on a summer day. SOLUTION: LOWER YOUR FPS. LOWER YOUR FPS. LOWER YOUR FPS. LOWER YOUR GRAPHICS CARD 3D SETTINGS TO WALMART QUALITY. Use a program like Bandicam and limit your FPS to 30, hell 20 just to be safe. I certainly don't want to lose a GAMING MACHINE to one *********** game. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD *TRY* OR *ATTEMPT* TO SEE, THEN *FIX* THIS PROBLEM BIOWARE. It's a sad day when a million voices suddenly cry out....then are silenced........... I have a 5870 Vapor-X OCed to 905/1285. I rarely see 100% GPU load, 80% or so is normal, and with the fun manually turned up to 75% (just like I do for Crysis), temp never gets over 60. I tried leaving the fan at 30%, and only see temps get into the upper 70s. That's a little warmer than I like it, but still not hot enough to cause problems. If your computer is overheating, I think you probably need to look at your cooling set up. I'd also like to add, a game like this cannot force your computer to create more heat than it normally would at a given load. If this game forces your GPU to work at 100% capacity, and Crysis also forces your GPU to work at 100% capacity, they will both generate the EXACT same amount of heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malpracticex Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 slack airflow, not coding. increase your airflow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talligan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Gentlemen, it appears were are the ignored and the forgotten. The reason why GPUs are overheating is because of bad coding. All it takes is somebody checking to see what commands and instructions are being sent to the GPUs. I am not an expert, but it seems like Bioware doesn't have anybody willing or competent to even look into this severe, deadly problem. Some guy I don't even know lost his computer last night. He is an associate of my friend's wife. "Yeah, I was playing TOR and my video card fried out." Inexcusable. You want candy. You take a bite. You burn your mouth due to excessive heat. You buy a car. You put gas into it. Your car explodes. How is that YOUR fault? You install SW:TOR on a gaming machine....you need to WATCH OUT and play Star Wars: Temperature Monitor Control.....BOOM.....fried computer due to excessive heat. My machine doesn't even struggle to run this and it's hotter than Jessica Alba on a summer day. SOLUTION: LOWER YOUR FPS. LOWER YOUR FPS. LOWER YOUR FPS. LOWER YOUR GRAPHICS CARD 3D SETTINGS TO WALMART QUALITY. Use a program like Bandicam and limit your FPS to 30, hell 20 just to be safe. I certainly don't want to lose a GAMING MACHINE to one *********** game. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD *TRY* OR *ATTEMPT* TO SEE, THEN *FIX* THIS PROBLEM BIOWARE. It's a sad day when a million voices suddenly cry out....then are silenced........... Trolololo I just popped the side of my case open and blow a fan across it. It keeps both my machine AND myself cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykologist Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Gentlemen, it appears were are the ignored and the forgotten. The reason why GPUs are overheating is because of bad coding. All it takes is somebody checking to see what commands and instructions are being sent to the GPUs. I am not an expert, but it seems like Bioware doesn't have anybody willing or competent to even look into this severe, deadly problem. Some guy I don't even know lost his computer last night. He is an associate of my friend's wife. "Yeah, I was playing TOR and my video card fried out." Inexcusable. You want candy. You take a bite. You burn your mouth due to excessive heat. You buy a car. You put gas into it. Your car explodes. How is that YOUR fault? You install SW:TOR on a gaming machine....you need to WATCH OUT and play Star Wars: Temperature Monitor Control.....BOOM.....fried computer due to excessive heat. My machine doesn't even struggle to run this and it's hotter than Jessica Alba on a summer day. SOLUTION: LOWER YOUR FPS. LOWER YOUR FPS. LOWER YOUR FPS. LOWER YOUR GRAPHICS CARD 3D SETTINGS TO WALMART QUALITY. Use a program like Bandicam and limit your FPS to 30, hell 20 just to be safe. I certainly don't want to lose a GAMING MACHINE to one *********** game. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD *TRY* OR *ATTEMPT* TO SEE, THEN *FIX* THIS PROBLEM BIOWARE. It's a sad day when a million voices suddenly cry out....then are silenced........... That's funny, because my GPU is fine. Must be the bad coding then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Games don't cause overheating. Your hardware & drivers do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemian Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The game causes GPUs to overheat. This is just not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerandar Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hero Engine was a bad choice. 2-3 hours then this game is taking 4+gigs of ram and I have to restart~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I know it wasn't the intention but I do have to nominate this one for "amusing thread of the day." No, it's not "bad coding". As to why throttling the FPS makes a difference? The more work-out the GPU is allowed (i.e. the more it has to render), the hotter it will run. The hotter it runs, the more cooling you need. If you lower the FPS, the card WILL run cooler. That's partly why VSync works to resolve many overheating issues. Unsupported or faulty drivers can also cause this--case in point were issues with a faulty nVidia driver distribution a couple years ago. The fan control wasn't working properly and at higher FPS, which the affected cards should easily have been able to handle, overheating was happening. Failure in those instances was solely due to the driver. Software itself (i.e. code) cannot kill your video card--it cannot make a card do something that it isn't programmed to do--but it can trigger existing flaws/faults in the hardware. The card should shut down before it hits critical temperature. If it doesn't, and it fails, it is an issue with the card or its driver. Is the answer to lower the rendering of the game for everyone? Or is the answer to understand how to monitor your card for temperature issues and adjust the game-settings accordingly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Bioware, your game runs too hot. My solution.. My system runs just the same as any game I play. The only suggestion I would have for Bioware is override the Aero Glass Effect while the game runs similar to LoTRO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmexaw Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 pvp also seem to *****r my machine until i turned AA to 8 . Didn't watch heat but it's kind of strange that after using radeon CCC.exe to force it my fps in pvp climbed from 10-15 to 30-35... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hero Engine was a bad choice. 2-3 hours then this game is taking 4+gigs of ram and I have to restart~ That's BS. It has nothing to do with that. You probably handled your ram without grounding out when you installed it and screwed up your ram. This happens all the time to noobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traft Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Games don't cause overheating. Your hardware & drivers do. Not true. WoW caps your FPS to around 60fps, it wont draw more frames than the eye can realistically notice. My card is producing 110fps in SWTOR so the GPU is constantly running at capacity. If there was an option to cap the frames then the GPU would spend longer periods not operating at it's peak level and produce less heat, draw less power. It is better for the longevity of your GPU, saves you on your power bill and better for the environment. More importantly, you shouldn't notice anything different. Edited January 9, 2012 by traft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmexaw Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Not true. WoW caps your FPS to around 60fps, it wont draw more frames than the eye can realistically notice. My card is producing 110fps in SWTOR so the GPU is constantly running at capacity. If there was an option to cap the frames then the GPU would spend longer periods not operating at it's peak level and produce less heat, draw less power. It is better for the longevity of your GPU, saves you on your power bill and better for the environment. More importantly, you shouldn't notice anything different. you can use an outside program to cap the FPS to whatever you like ... i had the same problem until i picked Dxtory.exe http://dxtory.com/v2-home-en.html if you're interested it's a software capture screen but you can simply use the fps capping feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couch_Goblin Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 i have to say despite having the newest drivers available my card is still running very hot. I found the solution (temporary at least) is to take the side of and point a desk fan at it. next pay day i'll probly be getting new cooling though h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemian Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Not true. WoW caps your FPS to around 60fps, it wont draw more frames than the eye can realistically notice. My card is producing 110fps in SWTOR so the GPU is constantly running at capacity. If there was an option to cap the frames then the GPU would spend longer periods not operating at it's peak level and produce less heat, draw less power. It is better for the longevity of your GPU, saves you on your power bill and better for the environment. More importantly, you shouldn't notice anything different. There is an option to cap the FPS, it's called Vsync, in your graphics preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Not true. WoW caps your FPS to around 60fps, it wont draw more frames than the eye can realistically notice. My card is producing 110fps in SWTOR so the GPU is constantly running at capacity. If there was an option to cap the frames then the GPU would spend longer periods not operating at it's peak level and produce less heat, draw less power. It is better for the longevity of your GPU, saves you on your power bill and better for the environment. More importantly, you shouldn't notice anything different. Vsync will lock your FPS. Many people have stated, they have no issues at all playing. No overheating, and get well over 100 FPS. Edited January 9, 2012 by Kourage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmexaw Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 if your card seem to run hot there is 2 things this forum has been saying over and over: -Enable AA trough your video card driver-cap your fps using an outside program so the game does not try to run at 120 fps all the time.-disable shadows if the 2 first doesn't work ( doesn't do anything for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmexaw Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Vsync will lock your FPS. Many people have stated, they have no issues at all playing. No overheating, and get well over 100 FPS. vsync doesn't work for me .. Wether it's off or on when i use a program like fraps or dxtory to verify my current fps it still says i run at 110-120 fps...capping it externally seems to work tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonk Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 VSync doesnt work and AA doesnt work for me either Before patch I was playing full screen mode - my GPU overheated very quickly and game stuttered I changed to windowed mode and it was fine for the moment... However, after the patch with graphic fixes even windowed mode is screwed. I play all max and ffs I do not want to compromise the quality of this game. I changed to min details and it doesnt help either (only prolongs the time before I have to shut down) 6mo ago I bought a super expensive gaming laptop (Alienware 1730M with 580 GTX) to the get maximum out of games. BIOWARE - fix it pronto please. I love SWTOR and I really want to recommend it to all my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollie Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) you can use an outside program to cap the FPS to whatever you like ... i had the same problem until i picked Dxtory.exe http://dxtory.com/v2-home-en.html if you're interested it's a software capture screen but you can simply use the fps capping feature. Thanks for the info, I just tried this Dxtory and it works like a charm Much better than VSync, and lets me increase the fps cap to something I think is still safe and won't freak this buggy piece of coding out, but more than the crappy 60 fps VSync lets me get, and runs the game much better than with VSync on (VSync actually decreased performance, I need those extra fps). Edited January 9, 2012 by lollie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceasaigh Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Not this again http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=144573 Edited January 9, 2012 by Ceasaigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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