Chainedfei Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Ignorance is no excuse in the law. The burden of legal proof rests upon the person lodging the complaint. Evidence will be required of the claim. -- Chained-Fei Previously of "Xenosaga" forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrAidennwitz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 i did not purchase early access? is that a joke? No. You did not purchase early access. Pre-order price is exactly the same as the launch price, it's just split in two parts. And actually, you haven't purchased anything, because Amazon doesn't charge your card until the 20th. Also, your momma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choxor Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 logical reasoning, if we were being logical , that would mean everyone would be getting the same treatment Naa, you want "fair treatment" simply because you're selfish and it would mean you could benefit. You don't care about fair treatment. Bioware spelled out the terms clearly and you're trying to use some idiotic logic against it. Simple as that. You ordered late. Missed the boat. Early bird gets the worm. You're not special, regardless of how many times your mom may have told you that. Welcome to the real world where money talks and the first movers have an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesleDarksyde Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) logical reasoning, if we were being logical , that would mean everyone would be getting the same treatment When it's been clearly stated straight from the start that those who pre-order first will have more EGA than those who preorder later? How on god's green earth is that logical? Bioware: "Those who order first, get in first. They get more EGA" Cylak: "Logically, that means we all get the same amount of EGA, irrelevant of when we pre-order, right?" Edited December 14, 2011 by DesleDarksyde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheezingTHC Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 .. as disturbing as that image is.. We do drink to pee and eat bananas to shoot the other stuff.. what does spiderman eat/drink to be able to constantly swing from roof to roof hanging from his pee? a mixture of superglue and the other stuff we shoot +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichLather Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) So many people can't grasp the concept of a line, and waiting in that line. I preordered on day 1, July 21. I was in Wave 1, and was in-game, making my character at 8:45 am this morning. Common sense. Rising above the overwhelming QQ since Early Access began! No other MMO has ever had a "LINE", and bioware did not announce this "LINE" in July. you have no point of value or logic. Edited December 14, 2011 by RichLather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichLather Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Naa, you want "fair treatment" simply because you're selfish and it would mean you could benefit. You don't care about fair treatment. Bioware spelled out the terms clearly and you're trying to use some idiotic logic against it. Simple as that. You ordered late. Missed the boat. Early bird gets the worm. You're not special, regardless of how many times your mom may have told you that. Welcome to the real world where money talks and the first movers have an advantage. They did not spell out the terms clearly in july, by the time people realized they wouldnt get to start day 1 it was already too late, again, you have no logic or credit behind your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diefenbaker Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm the 1%. *smokes cigar* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 believe me, i am seriously considering it, i dont like being mislead with something i have purchasedm which has what happened to like 3/4's of the players here. ROFL Please, do! DODODODODODODODODODODODODODODO!!! We don't like people like you That's why we got to play earlier and you didn't LA-LA-LALA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaGuN Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 no its not a joke, tell me cylak, how much money did early access cost you? i'd like to know because i was unaware BW was selling early access Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasma Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 believe me, i am seriously considering it, i dont like being mislead with something i have purchasedm which has what happened to like 3/4's of the players here. The thing is, in this thread alone it's more like 3/4 of people are just fine with waiting for their early access. I'm more then happy to wait until my key is released, as long as it's before 11:59pm on December 19th I have no issue. I have to admit, reading cylak's justifications for being a whiney kid does make me chuckle. I also wonder if cylak had gotten in the first wave of players, if he would be on the forums shouting his disgust with Bioware for all of us here happily waiting our turn. I wonder if he would be sitting in Corrusant or Drumond Kaas raging in general chat "Where is everyone else!?! It's so unfair that I'm here and they aren't". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurV Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 bioware would have explained the staggered start the day the game went out for pre sale. Actually ... they did. Or you want a particular email just for you with the address to the FAQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowerslayer Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 as title says. Discrimination much? add in the other problems, lvl issues , especially on pvp servers, economies ruined , players having clear advantages.I could go on and on, there are millions of problems with this staggered launch, its mindblowing that nobody in any of these companies didnt realize the problem this was going to create. You will find alot of people no longer buy things from the companies assiocated with this game, i know that for a fact, because i already have friends who refuse to play anything EA has there name on, which is this, even though its star wars and they like it, they wont play due to EA, now, all i can say is WOW, way to go with this latest debarcle. this is Coming from a very pissed of customer Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katuan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 No other MMO has ever had a line, and bioware did not announce this "LINE" in July. you have no point of value or logic. I distinctly remember a line in WoW when everyone tried to log in at the same time and stuck me in a stupid queue... and I waited... oh look next in line... waited some more.... feels like a line to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I also can't find anything that says you get EGA at all on the Amazon purchase page..until AFTER you order it (via email). So, you get something you didn't even 'know' you'd get at the time of ordering. The entire argument is fail...But, let's face it..it's a troll..even if he doesn't know he's a troll..he's still a troll. Awareness is not a requirement to being a troll. Though, you have to be a bit of an idiot to purchase a game from any retailer without first looking into it. Especially a game like this, an MMO, which relies heavily on various features which you can either love or hate. Without first researching such a game you make yourself liable for your failure to research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainedfei Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Naa, you want "fair treatment" simply because you're selfish and it would mean you could benefit. You don't care about fair treatment. Bioware spelled out the terms clearly and you're trying to use some idiotic logic against it. Simple as that. You ordered late. Missed the boat. Early bird gets the worm. You're not special, regardless of how many times your mom may have told you that. Welcome to the real world where money talks and the first movers have an advantage. I have to correct you, sir. What this person(and I use that term loosely) is using is not Logic. Even the half-bastard child of Logic and Fallacy wouldn't claim whatever the heck cudgel this things using. -- Chained-Fei Previously of "Xenosaga" forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrAidennwitz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 No other MMO has ever had a "LINE", and bioware did not announce this "LINE" in July. you have no point of value or logic. They did. They just did not clarify it for the less intelligent, but the concept of staggering early access was there since day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cylak Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 When it's been clearly stated straight from the start that those who pre-order first will have more EGA than those who preorder later? How on god's green earth is that logical? Bioware: "Those who order first, get in first. They get more EGA" Cylak: "Logically, that means we all get the same amount of EGA, irrelevant of when we pre-order, right?" SHOW me were this was stated to me before buying it at amazon online, BEFORE i payed my money. SHOW ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordziak Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Just leave kids.... Leave this game for normal ppl and learn the rule - FIRST IN FIRST OUT. I did pre-order the game on 27th july and that is why im in game now... Registered ur pre-order in december?? Then blame urself for doing that. Next time read facts and dev posts carefully.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choxor Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I have to correct you, sir. What this person(and I use that term loosely) is using is not Logic. Even the half-bastard child of Logic and Fallacy wouldn't claim whatever the heck cudgel this things using. -- Chained-Fei Previously of "Xenosaga" forums This is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cylak Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 They did. They just did not clarify it for the less intelligent, but the concept of staggering early access was there since day 1. if you think annoying 80% of your paying customers is smart, then seriously i find that pretty sad. also them doing this has caused people to cancel the game, thus loosing them money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meiu Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 You know, this thread is great. It puts to bed the silly notion PVPrs regurgitate like half digested worm. They say, "Red is dead" "We just gank the lowbies to find good PVP" Here we have OP tearing his hair out because he can't be one of the gankers and has to deal with the cold, hard, facts about PVP servers. OP maybe you should embrace this as a chance to develop your PVP skillz. Thank you for solidifying what I already knew. Most people on PVP servers are social outcasts who live vicariously through their avatar and get off on making other people's game experience miserable. This applies to everyone who plays video games not just PvPers. If PvPers arent busy ganking PvE's are busy trash talking people over "dps" and booting people out of groups for not having an additional 1 more to crit. Both sides are corrupt and childish. Everyone is embracing the dark side and I am ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheezingTHC Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 They did. They just did not clarify it for the less intelligent, but the concept of staggering early access was there since day 1. Common, its a starwar game, do you really think Star wars is for the intelligent and intelligent alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neamhan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 No other MMO has ever had a "LINE", and bioware did not announce this "LINE" in July. you have no point of value or logic. Sure they have. They're called server queues. A different kind of line, sure. But still a line. And the waits in the server queues WoW had at launch could be measured in hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madidus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 The fun fact of the day is,... life isn't fair. And the best part of all is that in a couple of weeks it wont matter anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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