Juromaro Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 LOL and if they keep to that business plan they will be rewarding their fanboys with a F2P game within 6 months. They will never go F2P because some are upset at the way they handled the game. Look at SWG freakin awesome game(opinion) before CU/NGE after CU/NGE lost a crap ton of subscribers(mostly cause WoW released and with changes), even one of there dev's who had a hand in the CU/NGE fiasco commited suicide(may or may not have been caused by all the hate mail/death threats he got from rabid fans) and even after 10 years they are finally closing down their servers, and it never went F2P. FFXI had around 1.5 million active subs at the time of their last updated Census, between then and now active subs have dropped(though my server still had a constant 3k+ online) and is still smaller than WoW, Perfect World, and even Maple Story. and it is still 12.95$ a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatoldguy Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 There is no race, Bioware stated a long time ago that this is not that kind of game, and that the racers are not their target audience. AKA paying customers are not part of their target audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrax Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 A +++ Glad to see them looking after the people that made the commitment and pre-ordered back in July. Good job BioWare. I'm in by the way, yes, because I committed early. If you didn't. Oh well, your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthcalum Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 A Almost no problems. It's not launch. Servers are running fine. People taking days off work when they weren't sure when they were getting on was just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatoldguy Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 They will never go F2P because some are upset at the way they handled the game. Look at SWG freakin awesome game(opinion) before CU/NGE after CU/NGE lost a crap ton of subscribers(mostly cause WoW released and with changes), even one of there dev's who had a hand in the CU/NGE fiasco commited suicide(may or may not have been caused by all the hate mail/death threats he got from rabid fans) and even after 10 years they are finally closing down their servers, and it never went F2P. FFXI had around 1.5 million active subs at the time of their last updated Census, between then and now active subs have dropped(though my server still had a constant 3k+ online) and is still smaller than WoW, Perfect World, and even Maple Story. and it is still 12.95$ a month. I can type in color text too!, and LoTRO is a better game than either of those mentioned, yet it is F2P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westwind Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 There is no race, Bioware stated a long time ago that this is not that kind of game, and that the racers are not their target audience. Unfortunately they don't get to decide who their audience is, nor do they get to decide what goals their audience sets. Another F from me. Very disappointed with the lack of communication, lack of effort, and lack of caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saitada Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 LMBO GG, you make me laugh, lol. Glad I could bring a chuckle to someone today. I have an odd philosophy. Bring a smile or a laugh to at least one person, every day of your life, and for a few moments you make the world a slightly better place. 11pm here in Hawaii now, time for me to go crash before I fall asleep and fall off my chair (I've done that, still have the knot on my head to prove it LOL). Good Night, good luck, and remember... The Enemies gate is DOWN. ~Saitada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phero Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 F- 1. Never told us when we'd get access. 1000's of fans took today off work and school and for what? To sit around all day hoping to get an invite that never came. 2. Only gave access to the first 6 days of pre-orders. They have 150 more days to go. 3. The Bioware team calls it quits at 2pm CST and heads home for the night. 4. All current available servers have been XP pvp exploited. 5 All current servers except one are "Light" or "standard" population, and those lucky enough to get in game, can't find groups because the entire world is mostly empty. 6. Crappy UI 7. No combat log I'll play my first 30 free days then I'm done with Bioware forever. It's like Ford. My dad bought a brand new Ford Tempo in 1989. The thing was the biggest piece of junk you'd ever seen. I will never, ever buy a Ford because of that. IF you or any other took a day off, for this.. ur a f'in loser!!! And it just released, and they clearly told us that they would let in a few people, each wave to avoid a crash..like "WoW" when it released, it crashed several times. But you and most people here, have an IQ that is simply too low to understand that. Soooo go play with your dolls or find another game. Do you really think, BW will beg you to stay, because you didnt get ingame the 13th or 14th..? if you wanna leave, leave... Done with Bioware ?? You dont wanna play Mass Effect 3 the other great they made, and have plans for ? Hmmm, BW have my support all the way, till the end...EVEN is Swtor fails. They are a solid company, great game makers!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juromaro Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) I can type in color text too!, and LoTRO is a better game than either of those mentioned, yet it is F2P. Your point is? If I remember right LoTRO didn't make the required amount of active subscriptions for it to remain sub based. I never played LoTRO so I'm unsure about that, but saying a game will go to F2P because one or two games did just shows you have no idea what your talking about. and I've been using this colored text since 09, don't like it then tough. Edited December 14, 2011 by Juromaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatoldguy Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 and I've been using this colored text since 09, don't like it then tough. Is that how long you have been a pretentious know it all as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthcalum Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) F- I'll play my first 30 free days then I'm done with Bioware forever. Hooray!! Edited December 14, 2011 by darthcalum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juromaro Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Is that how long you have been a pretentious know it all as well? Your opinion is yours, And yes, I have been a pretentious know it all since 09' because I have the sense to not get upset over a video game, and I feel the need....no the desire to hang out on the forums and reply to supposed grown adults complaining like they just got their taxes raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatoldguy Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Your opinion is yours, And yes, I have been a pretentious know it all since 09' because I have the sense to not get upset over a video game, and I feel the need....no the desire to hang out on the forums and reply to supposed grown adults complaining like they just got their taxes raised. Then why are you still here replying to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juromaro Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Then why are you still here replying to me? Because I reply to all who reply to me? I leave no one out...or rather try not to <3 I still love you though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichLather Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 They did state pretty clearly that getting into early access depended on when you put the pre-order code in. When i saw the news announced that preorders are now available on my favorite gaming news sites, I did not see anything that EXPLICITLY explained this staggered release. If I would have known I would have gotten it then and ate less food that month. As it is I needed the money then and expected this to be like EVERY MMO THAT HAS EVER BEEN RELEASED where I can preorder the week before and start with everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichLather Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Your opinion is yours, And yes, I have been a pretentious know it all since 09' because I have the sense to not get upset over a video game, and I feel the need....no the desire to hang out on the forums and reply to supposed grown adults complaining like they just got their taxes raised. You do realize that the type of product a customer is paying for has absolutely no logical bearing on whether they should be upset right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priah Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 B+ They are doing thing in a calm, controlled way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard- Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 i would give bioware a 3 out of 10, execution of the Early acces was poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabooty Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 A-, because they should've kept the forums locked to anyone who wasn't in early access and playing the game and they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSin Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) I give them a solid A++. Ive been through countless MMO closed betas, open betas and launch days, and thus far Bioware's actions have been exemplary. Beta was fairly lagless, full of content, smooth and honest and full of purpose. Open beta (or the stress test weekend as Bioware calls it) was the smoothest I have ever seen a stress test go, although a few more bugs. But even still, no more bugs than any other open beta. Pre-order launch access invites started a full week before launch day, the longest early access period that I can recall ever getting. In my opinion, I wouldn't have expected early access until about Thursday/Friday which is precisely when I expect to be in. The fact that they did the staggered invites to early access is also a good call, because I would prefer that to opening the flood gates even if I have to wait 3-4 days longer than other people. Bioware's forums are also well moderated, to keep things semi-sane. Then of course we come to the game itself, bringing world changing dialogue options to the forefront of the storyline in an MMO is a revolutionary concept still usually reserved only for single player MMOs. Not to mention the other concepts. Emphasis on security is better than some of the others I have seen. The multi-question account is a first. Use of a security key, while not rare, is even better. I truly believe Bioware took what other companies learned during their development and releases, and took it to heart. And in turn their release is going to hopefully be fairly smooth, and we should see very little server downtime. Edited December 14, 2011 by BlueSin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juromaro Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) You do realize that the type of product a customer is paying for has absolutely no logical bearing on whether they should be upset right? Yes, but the thing is Joe Jack didn't pre-order a car and I pre-ordered a game, Everyone here who pre-ordered got the same product, one that offical release isn't for another 6 days, who's early access wasn't offically going to start for another day. Yes people are upset, yes they are upset because they aren't being told when they can play like we were during the beta weekends. However they shouldn't be upset until the 15th-19th and even then being upset is a stretch at best because it stays "May play UP to 5 days" doesn't say you get to play 5 days no matter what. *Edit* It's like me standing in line for a TV during Black Friday. I may be #30 or #50 and they call numbers 1 through 29, I cannot get upset and rage in the store because my number wasn't called at that time, if I did I'd get arrested for disturbing the peace. Edited December 14, 2011 by Juromaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ljungen Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 A+ for Bioware and F--- for reading comprehension of their player base... guess it is a good thing the game is voiced. What part of up to 5 days of early access is difficult to comprehend. It doesn't mean 5 days it means anywhere between 0 and 5 days of early access and we aren't even at 5 days prior to launch yet. I just do a +1 on this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingMeteor Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 A+ the self entitled whiners are comedy gold while Bioware sticks to the plans that it's had since July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallyoda Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 forget about EGA. lets get back to the real subject... no grace period... ripping that out from us. Sorry guys, great game, you try hard but your leaders are making bad choices C- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbelchior Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) A+ They stated what they were going to do. They did it. They aren't relenting to internet nerd rage. Next time buy the game when it first goes on sale, not a week before release. edit: No grace period? Really? Ouch... Edited December 14, 2011 by sbelchior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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