Mackuss Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Bioware? Or - and I often wonder this.... What in the living hell were the BETA testers doing this entire time............? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerdoc Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) in 90% whining WoW glads who think they know it best with inability to L2P and adapt thinking they are still fighting in a box humping pillarsin 5% overpopulation of sorcerers making class look ******* OP(while its slightly OP)in 5% random causes including Bioware Edited January 2, 2012 by Lerdoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebubs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Beta testers were reporting these imbalances and being largely ignored. That said though, I only had access to the last couple of beta weekends, and it seemed to play better than live. Maybe it's because you didn't see anyone over level 30 in the warzones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeromentor Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Beta testers were reporting these imbalances and being largely ignored. That said though, I only had access to the last couple of beta weekends, and it seemed to play better than live. Maybe it's because you didn't see anyone over level 30 in the warzones. First, top, sentence in quotes. Infact, some ability delays weren't in the Beta. Now people are complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiHeilos Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 What in the living hell were the BETA testers doing this entire time............? Why do the clueless always try to blame the Beta testers? We didn't design the game and we can't force anyone to listen to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackuss Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 in 90% whining WoW glads who think they know it best with inability to L2P and adapt thinking they are still fighting in a box humping pillars in 5% overpopulation of sorcerers making class look ******* OP(while its slightly OP) in 5% random causes including Bioware I lol'd. Why do the clueless always try to blame the Beta testers? We didn't design the game and we can't force anyone to listen to us. Well I ask partly as a loaded quest I must admit. PARTLY though. I PERSONALLY know atleast 8 people that all were very frequent BETA testers (not just the Thanksgiving weekend) that very avidly said that they were just playing to have fun - and never reported anything. And seeing how statistics work...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Bioware? Or - and I often wonder this.... What in the living hell were the BETA testers doing this entire time............? so tell me again what the problem with PvP is ? You getting owned too often and think "hey, its not me that needs to L2P but PvP is a mess" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardoni Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 What in the living hell were the BETA testers doing this entire time............? Being shocked they added in a pvp stat. Laughing to ourselves at all the guards they added at launch into the open world because we were actually having fun killing each other in our quest hubs. Oh, and trying not to say "I told you so" with the bolster system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackuss Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Being shocked they added in a pvp stat. Laughing to ourselves at all the guards they added at launch into the open world because we were actually having fun killing each other in our quest hubs. Oh, and trying not to say "I told you so" with the bolster system. I lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrFett Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) The guys from Failhammer Offline probably since Bioware hired them for making the PvP part in this game and "drum roll" they failed to make good PvP and i'am not even surprised. Edited January 2, 2012 by HerrFett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shurax Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 in 90% whining WoW glads who think they know it best with inability to L2P and adapt thinking they are still fighting in a box humping pillars in 5% overpopulation of sorcerers making class look ******* OP(while its slightly OP) in 5% random causes including Bioware Translation: Hello, I'm Nerdy McFETT, this is the first time someone as bad as me can compete with all these good people and actually win warfronts without having to kill any players. I have a Assassin with which I have played 5 warfronts and can attest to perfect balance. I have told my mother to contact our lawyer if you dare keep up bad mouthing this perfect creation of my Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackuss Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 The guys from Failhammer Offline probably since Bioware hired them for making the PvP part in this game and "drum roll" they failed to make good PvP and i'am not even surprised. I seriously lol'd. True though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcerberus Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The guys from Failhammer Offline probably since Bioware hired them for making the PvP part in this game and "drum roll" they failed to make good PvP and i'am not even surprised. this x100 once they let Mythic set a foot on this game, it was utterly doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonated Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Why do the clueless always try to blame the Beta testers? We didn't design the game and we can't force anyone to listen to us. Because most beta testers, Majority of them the weekend warriors, Found bugs But just made a QQ thread about it instead. Some beta testers also found exploits etc and rather then suggest balancing it decided that they should just keep it quiet and remain so upon live version they could replicate it. Also look at the first 50s on your server, ask which were full time beta testers. all the first 50s on my server were beta testers that went through the story and on live space bar'd there way to rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusElliott Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Most beta testers find the op classes, and exploits to use for themselves vs. report standard screw ups, but you can only blame BW for picking said players to close beta test. The game was rushed. It's pretty obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasherUK Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) There is nothing wrong with pvp. Stuff like lag and abilities not responding are caused by something else. There are no "OP classes" or abilities, just good and bad players. Having tried a few classes since beta I find them equally as good in pvp, but then I know how to play.... Edited January 2, 2012 by NasherUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellis Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Beta testers voice nearly every concern that is being whined about currently. We went out of our way to provide evidence/causes to the problems and it was all simply ignored. Basically the feeling is. Bioware does not and will not care about pvp any time soon. So pretty much its gonna stay the same. Hutt ball will be determined by whoever has more sorcs/sages. Alderan will be determined by who has the most tanks and voidstar will be determined by the stealthers. TOR's pvp has been a total mess since they opened it up. They KINDA fixed the combat responsiveness a little but its definitely still there for anyone who plays any kind of fluid/reaction based video game. WoW for example has nearly flawless input delay, with ending clips as well. Swtor .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depth_mil Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Beta testers voice nearly every concern that is being whined about currently. We went out of our way to provide evidence/causes to the problems and it was all simply ignored. Basically the feeling is. Bioware does not and will not care about pvp any time soon. So pretty much its gonna stay the same. Hutt ball will be determined by whoever has more sorcs/sages. Alderan will be determined by who has the most tanks and voidstar will be determined by the stealthers. TOR's pvp has been a total mess since they opened it up. They KINDA fixed the combat responsiveness a little but its definitely still there for anyone who plays any kind of fluid/reaction based video game. WoW for example has nearly flawless input delay, with ending clips as well. Swtor .... Yeah, the ability delay has been the standout for me - particularly on the JK/SW. Sometimes it seems straight up impossible to interrupt anything because abilities just don't go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qlimitus Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) Beta testers were just trying out their new bots and credit farming tactics....... Oo Edited January 2, 2012 by Qlimitus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryptorchid Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Beta testers voice nearly every concern that is being whined about currently. We went out of our way to provide evidence/causes to the problems and it was all simply ignored. This. During Beta, the only contact we had from the Devs was when one of them responded to a expletive laced rant about..... damn can't remember if it was about PvP, ability lag, itemization, JK/SW getting interrupts and stuns too late, color match to chest, etc.... (I think it was about the mod system changes). Like he said, literally everyone that was in Beta for more than the weekends saw all the problems in live, which never got addressed, and in most cases, never acknowledged by BioWare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkshinoda Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The *******es behind warhammer online pvp of course, seeing as bioware saw fit to hire em in for the pvp part of the game, boy what a mistake that was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Karsk Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Bioware? Or - and I often wonder this.... What in the living hell were the BETA testers doing this entire time............? Gabe is the man i belive to blame. And we told BW lots of things in beta but they dident listen. And now we have this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perinn Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 This. During Beta, the only contact we had from the Devs was when one of them responded to a expletive laced rant about..... damn can't remember if it was about PvP, ability lag, itemization, JK/SW getting interrupts and stuns too late, color match to chest, etc.... (I think it was about the mod system changes). Like he said, literally everyone that was in Beta for more than the weekends saw all the problems in live, which never got addressed, and in most cases, never acknowledged by BioWare. It is the beta method that is used by the majority of games. LotRO had a QA server that they interviewed you to get in. And they auto lvled you and gave you armor and basically MADE you test it. None of this 'im just playing it to play it' crap that probably the majority of the beta testers did. ((not saying all but looking at all the 50s within 2 days of official launch that space barred the convo's yea they sure helped test things...)) So blame the method of beta not anything else... well the useless people who didn't test can be blamed... and the people who let those useless people in can be blamed as well... you know what nyerk it we are blaming everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernetic Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 "Dude the internal build is like three builds ahead of the one we are testing." sums up why nothing ever got fixed in beta. Every complaint, every bug report, every critical thread got spammed with fanboys until most people just gave up and started trolling the forums. I'm 100% serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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