That makes no sense. All MM FPs except maybe 4 are soloable at ir 270. 306 is gear for NiM operations and ranked PvP. A group of 4 players dressed in 270 MUST clear all low effort content like MM FPs easily.

So i just did vet mode. Pyro PT in Meteor Brawler set with ir 276 augs. Companion of choice. - Gamorrean lvl 50 on heals. So i have mixed feelings. Runs from boss to boss take eternity. Alot of trash mob groups, that's not fun. You can remove 2/3 of them and it still will be alot. Bosses are quite boring and easy. You guys really need to add some special mechanics to every boss, especially first and second ones. Jumping puzzle is too easy (even i figured out what to do in like 45 seconds, and im not very smart), sniper trap is ok i guess. This FP can become something that i would love, something like Nathema. Which is, after we got Meridian that is basically Hammer Station 2.0, would be a nice thing. But each and every boss fight needs so little effort. That's not good.

That's the point of any PvP mode in any multiplayer game. You either get good or leave.

Darth Malgus server today, early morning for me, quite deep in the night for most of Europe. So me and my friend (im from Russia, he's from Germany), both GSF pilots first, decided to do something new together because Starfighter queue was ss good as dead already. And we queue for vet FPs. So here's the report how it went. First queue. Hammer Station. Me (skank tank PT at lvl 75 in nearly BiS gear for PvP tank), friend in his anni mara at lvl 73, sniper and jugg in their 75's. At first pull (the one with 2 big droids) siper dies, my friend dies, jugg survived with 5% health. Aside from that the run was perfectly fine and we did rest of FP under 10 minutes. Second queue. Hammer again. So it was us but this time with lvl 40-something mara and another mara in their 60-s. Okay, i thought, this should go well. I never was so wrong. 2 low lvl maras managed to die at almost every pull. They were always stealing first pull, never responded to chat, never even showed they read what we wrote in chat. In the end, one dies at turrets, one dies on the way to Kreshan. We 2-man the boss. Third queue. This time we got Nathema, and friend of mine already levelled to 75 by then but was in lvl 70 and below gear anyway. So it's me in my skank tank, one ungeared mara, dps merc dressed in BiS and a sniper dressed in 304 or so. And we went through this FP like a knife through butter, we did bonus boss and everything was fine until the death of that Scorpio-like boss. Then Vinn Atrius came in and we really suffered. It was my first time as tank in Nathema vet, so it was quite interesting. I died only 30 seconds before we could beat boss, my friend died from pushback earlier, so pugs did all work fir us in the end. And they were pretty good. It was interesting and fun play.

Alot of solo story players are f2p or preferred. That a fact. Because you don't really need sub to play solo, only a small percentage of solo players subscribe, ever. Also a fact: 100% of multiplayer people are subscribed, because you can't even play multiplayer content without sub. But on this forums we got a very vocal, very toxic minority of solo story players who are basically forbidding people who enjoy other content to play and enjoy the game. For the last 6 months or so their narrative was "Lmao play our way multiplayer peasant or leave". Now when situation is about to change not in their favour, they forgot their arrogance and trolling towards multiplayer people, they try to sound kind and pretending to be reasonable. Dear devs, please do not pay attention to this screeching. Remember who your playerbase really are. It's time to actually give people who play multiplayer content the rewards they deserve. Any other MMO values their actual subscribers more than solo story people who will probably never run 99% of content.

Aye, Vet FPs need some love. And Unranked PvP too.

Is this a mtf joke? You are buffing braindead solo activities YET AGAIN How about bringing something to multiplayer people? Like, the ones who actually pay for your game? There are alot of suggestions in this thread alone. If you'd care you'd read it. But aye. Feeding a companion is niw worth 2 GSF matches or 3 heroic missions. Guys, you are INSANE.

I actually agree. The most toxic part of SWTOR community isn't DK chat, ranked PvP or GSF aces. The most toxic part of community are "elitist forum veterans" who can be blatantly racist, nazist and just arrogant to players from non-english speaking places and can get away with this and BW just silently approves this BS. And now when said "elitist forum veterans" are able to farm good conquest they are indeed willing to not let any GSF or PvP peasant to ruin their order of things and their precious credits as long as they are able to farm millions and billions in by just running heroics and other braindead stuff on 30 chars. I say, lets get rid of forum toxicity! This place could be much better without toxic elitists.

Nah, i like this set and i will probably buy it, but if they ll add something on the back it will kinda ruin it for me. Just like Mando Stormbringer set, it's good except a nonsense jetpack on the back.

I've seen 5vs4 match once. And some 6vs5 ones too. Early morning queue on DM can sometimes give matches like that. Not sure if it's a bug or working as intended tho.

Aye. I agree that we need a carrot for new pilots. But at the same time we dont need an objective that would be farmed by decent pilots alot of times per match. Once per macth - sure, but if it will ding 4-5 times per match that would be weird. So, i say make it 8 medals, but with counter dont reset on match end. Make it some decent points, like 9500 (with full SH bonus) so new pilots do not feel like thair efforts are completely useless. Also, 8 medals is amount that not every average pilot is able to achieve in each and every match. For example, you can often see 12x12 DOM matches when even in winning team there are 1-2 pilots with 12 medals and more while others have like 5-6 too busy trying to get kills in middle of nowhere. Maybe this new conquest objective will make pilots play more "objectively" in DOM. We dont even need a tourney, just find 8 people ready and willing to install PTS and queue at the same time. Math is good but real testing is better indeed.

Conquer The Sky (play 1 match) is 5500 points, not 16500. Sorry if didn't wrote it clear enough, english isnt my first or second language.

Guess what? I hate doing story, heroics and dailies. But current conquest system FORCES me (and other ppl who are fed up with planetary tourism) to grind em if i want some decent cq points. Conquest system on PTS, howewer, is slightly better. But grinding heroics and dailies is still BY FAR the most efficient way to get conquest points. BY FAR This is plain BS and your opinion is irrelevant.

So now i was actually able to actually play on PTS, not just log in and see things. With total of 4 people max in Imp fleet i didn got any PvP pop, let alone GSF, of course. But i played 1 heroic nission on Hutta, a couple dailies on Rishi, dinged "defeat enemies" on Rishi and did 2 missions from new event and renown level up dinged 3 times. Hit 100k conquest in like 40 minutes. if iI would get GSF pops on PTS, it would be prolly this way: assuming it pops non-stop i would get 16500 conquest from "Starfighter: Conquer The Sky" x3 assuming i could win one match, it could give me another 9350 conquest points from "Starfighter: Dominate the Stars" i also could ding "Activity Finder" that gives another 21375 conquest points. That would be a total of 47225 conquest in 45 minutes* Not even on personal target. But maybe renown would ding once. Good attempt but no. Not enough. Doing dailies, heroics etc is still more than 2 times better conquest than doing GSF. *considering the matches popping non-stop like in prime time on DM and the matches being 14 minutes long

You guys are really weird. Right now people doing basically any non-solo content go to personal conquest targer in about 90 minutes. While people playing heroics and daily areas can bring 9-10 alts to conquest target in the same amount of time easily. So playing solo is currently FROM NINE TO THEN TIMES MORE REWARDING than actual group content. Dont you see anything strange in this? With Conquest system implemented on PTS it was already proven that average player can reach 500k conquest in 2,5 hours. 500000 In 2,5 hours This is actually Small Yeild Invasion rreward and it's perfectly reachable by just one person doing solo content in 2,5 hours. This is far more than any PvPer or GSF pilot or casual raider is able to get in a week. For god's sake just stop complaining, you all are ridiculous.

Finally something reasonable. Most importantly, nerf to some activities that require zero or nearly zero player's participation (planetary heroics that can be soloed by your companion while you have some tea, selling junk etc). BUT Still no conquest objectives for MM uprisings? Eh. And of course GSF, you had one job - just make "win match" objective infinitely repeatable again. That would solve 100% of issues of GSF pilots with conquest. With new changes the first character we do conquest on will have an excessive amount of CQ points, while 2nd and so on will struggle. Basically, GSF players still can get 1 character to Conquest target per day, while people doing heroics and daily areas can get 5-6. It's better than before, when GSF pilots barely could reach personal target in reasonable time and heroics/daily areas players could get to personal target 9-10 in the same amount of time. But it's not enough. Either make "win GSF match" infinitely repeatable again, even with old amount of points it would be great, or implemen new objective based on medals. That way GSF pilots still will be inferior to heroics farmers in terms of conquest but not so much than before. Make it 8 and you have my vote.

We already have medals. It could be implemented this way: 1 medal gives player 1 "GSF valor" point, 5 medals and more - points doubled, so for example 6 medals = 12 points, 10 medals and more - points multiplied by 3 so for example 12 medals = 36 points. This way actual aces will get to ranked faster than average pilots, average pilots will be there faster than bad players, and self-destructors and afk'ers will never be there.

Among my `80 characters scattered across 3 servers i only completed full story from starter planet to Onslaught on 4 or maybe 5. Tho i actually enjoy Sith Warrior and Inquisitor stories and replayed their original chapters like maybe 4 times each. My other characters are mostly on Korriban/Hutta story-wise. Im here for GF activities - GSF and regs, Uprisings and MM FPs, some casual SM raiding (or even HM in case of some easiest operations) here and there. SWTOR community is among the nicest of all ive seen in MMOs in last 10 years or more. Tho even the GSF players (absolutely the most chill people even among TOR community) have some jerks among them, these clearly are rare minority. I never ran into toxicity in PvE groupfinder while playing SWTOR and used ignore list for ppl whose i met in PvP/GSF.. like twice. Sadly, these forums are much worse. Elitism, blatant arrogance, trolling performed by "elite forum veterans" against those who dont support their agenda, and even straight up nazism (user who claimed that "all non-english names are not real and for not really people" wasnt even banned) and all this is approved by BW.

Aye. That's good point. Average (or even pretty good) PvEer may become quite disappointed in attempts of farming solo ranked, especially if drop rates of new mats will be the same as devs stated in augments topic. But again, there's always wintrading. They can join the guild that runs team ranked groups for the sake of conquest farming or mats farming. Can't tell about other servers but on DM some guilds are already mentioning in their recruitment messages that they're recruiting people for team ranked farming I can bet that at least mega guilds will abuse the team ranked queue for conquest and mats farming. And alot of more casual guilds will do that as well. Doubt it's what BW wanted to see but that's what will happen.

nvm. CC addition bugged out

Merc/Commando is still overpowered af in PvP. If anything, it deserves yet another nerf.

Topic starter is actually wrong only in one sentence. Not all PvPers will need these new augs. I make nice 80k hits in warzones not because im dressed in BiS gear, in fact i have zero purple augments. I make these nice hits because of using advantages of my set bonuses and tacticals and pressing buttons in right order at right time. I couldn't care less about new augs stat-wise. Alot of people in regs or even ranked aren't dressed in BiS gear, and they are perfectly ok with it as long as they have fun and feel satisfied with their performance. The reason i usually don't do ranked is not because there are people dressed in better gear than me. No. It's because i prefer tactical PvP of regular warzones. And i only queue ground PvP if GSF queues take long which happens quite rarely in recent months. But if new augments will be implemented yhe way it was announced, i will indeed queue solo ranked to farm mats to sell em on GTN. And alot of regs players will do as well. These new mats will worth some good credits. So alot of not-so-good or completely clueless players will come to ranked, especially solo. And alot of PvErs will come as well just to try and test their luck i bet. If BWs intention was to **** off as many ranked players as possible - heck yeah new patch will do that just fine. I swear by Allah whining in PvP forum in first week after patch will be hilarious.

Ah, maybe i will play solo ranked again. Looks like these mats will worth good credits.

Then you apparently read this thread and 100500 previous conquest related threads with your eyes closed. /dixi

Have you even tried to read this exact thread? The narrative of many "elite forum veterans" here is "DON'T YOU DARE TO HAVE ANY FUN AND SATISFACTION HERE, WATCH CUTSCENES AS I DO!!!11", and of course "DON'T YOU DARE TO HAVE ANY CONQUEST POINTS!!!11 DECORATE SPACE BARBIE HOME AS I DO!". They were behaving like that since the release of 6.0 and the absolute disaster of new conquest system. Personally i find that ridiculous that now when people who actually play the game got some hope, these persons are already crying and threating to cancel their sub. The most toxic part of SWTOR isn't DK chat or ranked PvP. The most toxic part of SWTOR are elitist veteran cutscene watchers.