Comprehensive Guide to 4.0 - Heads will talk - No new GSF content, - No new WZ content - No new PvE content - No new content in general having to do with core MMO elements - We broke some things but gonna release expansion anyway, lol! - That totally awesome 2 min trailer you saw last summer is gonna be the intro! You can watch it as much as you like!

Can't believe what I am reading... My favorite game mechanic of my favorite expansion broken by KOTFE, for a month. " Ah we'll fix it in like month+++ lol!" I dislike an expansion I've not even played little more every day. It is insane how much fate Bioware has in their own storytelling. It is ridiculous they knowingly release an expansion that breaks things. Nice going. Thanks a lot!

I think this is the heart of the matter. Above quote is case in point to what 1000 hours of Dialogue Wheel and Talk Show cutscenes does to people. It utterly alienates player from actual gameplay, from actual control of your characters. TOR community is so used to just passively staring at cutscenes. People have grown so used to being a spectator that they've forgotten gameplay is supposed to be a thing. Just listening and watching their epic character They just sit there, with their keyboard turning characters, arms crossed and go " make me feel epic bioware!" It doesn't even cross their minds anymore that maybe, just MHAYBE it is up to YOU, the player of your player character, to ensure your character does awesome things that feels awesome to you. If you die to that womprat, it likely means you are playing badly. Learn the fight, try again, have vengeance->feel awesome. You want a meaningful semi-god-mode? Play well. Being an optimist, I would like to believe that " holy fek! I really did SO well on that fight !!PHEW!" ends up gifting player with much more epic feeling than "hurrrr killing lvl 10 mobs durrrrr"

Recycling old content as part of an MMO expansion that comes without any new MMO core elements is a good move. - Certainly when it truly comes down to having either that or nothing new, besides 10 hours of talking heads and few Rishi-style zones. Releasing an MMO expansion that comes without any MMO core elements is a *********** awful move. On a positive site, it works great as punchline for a joke. Like "Impotent adult film star, KOTFE and an atheistic nun walked into a bar.."

Regardless of how much or little one loves killing grey mobs, I'd like to believe everybody must agree with the following: Currenly, huge portion of the world is level-obsolete. Majority of everything consists of quests, mobs and rewards that are like up to 50 levels below you. No matter how good doing a lvl 16 heroic 4 as level 60 makes you feel, the actual act of travelling to quest location ends up being more difficult and requiring more gameplay than doing the quest. Even if doing something like this is your.. playstyle (lol), you'll have to agree that in terms of actual gameplay where you do battle and must use your abilities, this content is irrelevant. Now, devs just might make an effort to make it relevant gameplay again. And you lot drowning forum in tears because " killing gray mobs is sometimes fun:)" and " I might get dismounted while travellingD:" Utterly ridiculous.

If you figure amount of whine and noise generated in general chat of forums equals some collective " obvious community majority", it means you live in reality where cartel slot machine and changes made to it is the single most important feature of the game. Spending 20 mins on general chat section of forums should suffice in making it clear why no sane dev would ever spend a single second keeping taps on whine here when trying to decide what people might actually like/dislike. You lot are QQing about changes and features you've not even gotten to try in practice yet. Central portion of this epic forum rage revolves around " I wanna run around killing gray mobs, it is my playstyle!" This whole whine-a-fest is utterly ridiculous. It absolutely mystifies me what in this is so gosh durned upsetting. Waaah, mah grey mobs! frakin LOL.

More maps, game modes and ships to GSF Open space. Using slightly modifated engine of GSF. Draws inspiration from Eve Online. Comes with wealth of PvE and PvP elements, a sandbox. 200k more people to play with New class and three new storylines: Imperial Pilot!, Republic Pilot, Smuggler Pilot! Ps I like GSF

Do I like the fact they are releasing an expansion to an MMO with hardly any actual new MMO content at all? Nope! The whole ordeal reads like a punchline off a joke. Do I like the fact any and all content with any measure of longevity to it's design is going to be just recycled old stuff? Nope!! Do I like the fact there is an effort to turn vast portion of lvl-obsolete world a tiny bit more relevant again?Yes! It is ridiculous these forums are afire due to people upset about losing a " playstyle" where most relevant and time consuming portion in clearing quest zone of mobs is the part where you travel in there from fleet! Some playstyle. It is staggering you'd sacrifice What, dozen planets potentially growing more relevant again on altar of this "playstyle". How awesome is it to run around gray mobs, really? This too, makes a punchline of some joke or another. Last summer there were big huge flame threads of vocal bits of the community ridiculing people who were disappointed by the news of an expansion that lacks new content besides story. Now vocal bits of the same community are up in arms, when BW devs, unable to introduce new content at least try to make the OLD one bit more meaningful. I'm really starting to feel like the community deserves KOTFE it gets, and KOTFE deserves the community that remains, heh. Bets compromise would be if BW chose to leave like 2-3 Johnny Awesome planets for these people so they can go there and do whatever it is that they enjoy doing with places loaded full of gray low lvl mobs.

I've never seen community of a game be so furiously against efforts to make obsolete content relevant. " Waah, I want majority of the world to consist of gray mobs for me to one-hit!!D:" I have no clue who you people are. Or why you play games. You are doing it wrong.

I think mainly, it all boils down to: +++ It possibly makes a huge measure of obsolete content bit more relevant again. Huge amount of heroics and zones can potentially become slightly more connected to average gameplay again. - - - People who like to kill a whole ton of gray mobs with 0 effort won't be able to do anymore. For them, ability to do so is more important than efforts to keep majority of the game relevant.

So this is actually something you people enjoy doing often? You take the buss to Korriban or Voss or whatever and run around, one hitting grey mobs feeling all Johnny Awesome for it? Is this some popular or loved past time? Do you hate not being able to do it, or do you hate the idea of not being able to do it if you'd want to? Even if answer to first couple of these questions is YES!!!, I still wonder how you can be so attached to your Johnny Awesome one hitting, that you are on barricades when BW tries to turn their entire game world bit more relevant and bit less obsolete for everybody. See, I end up feeling Johny Awesome when tackling quest and content that'd feel even remotely relevant. If " Ooh, I'm so gonna get [nasty word here] by these lvl 15 mobs!" is the first thought you always get, then I'd suggest you try to do bit harder content bit more often. Might lessen the severity. Your reply comes with some sort of a hint of RP justification behind this all as well; how your character gathers power and grows stronger. Everybody should remember lvls are pretty arbitrary Gameplay mechanic, not some accurate underlining of how powerful your character is. You kill level 16 darth on Dromund Kas. Meanwhile, Stupidest, smelliest smuggler on Hoth is 45. Said smuggler is then dozen times stronger than this darth? Besides being a game mechanic, level and xp and such has never made sense anyway. It has always brought certain irrationality to any and all game worlds.

" Hey, do you want to nerf yourself utterly, or would you rather do this stuff for reals?!" It'd be every bit as visible, loved,meaningful and relevant feature as ability to turn 12xXP off. Most all people wouldn't bother. Would a small fraction of people opt in, like they do with 12xXP? Sure. But we both know it would not manifest in gameplay of people as collective in any real way. It'd be just another exotic Non-feature that does, changes or means nothing. Inability to one hit gray mobs-> GAMEPLAY RUINED FOR ME AND OTHERS! lol. I care way too much for my sanity to read more than 10 or so pages of this drivel. But at least for good couple of pages, it was really entertaining to watch people listing reasons why they don't want this. "I don't wanna play with newbs!" " I wanna solo world bosses!!" " I wanna one hit stuff!" I really don't get why you people even play video games. You are doing it wrong. ;p

Considering how utterly neglected Warzones and GSF are by Bioware, any and all moves that somehow, indirectly or otherwise, help cultures around these activities to get promoted/survive/prosper/ grow is by default a good thing for the game and people enjoying PvP. Also, I'm not sure how you are able to pull such estimates of time on content not released or tested. Surely you are not approaching this with idea and desire to solo them? I'm not sure if it serves best interest of Conquest to have goals there that mostly result n level 60 people facerolling grey mobs on newbie zones.

Uh, the point of the whole ordeal would be that - somebody - buys the token for RL cash. Then the same somebody puts it on GTN for credits. EA gets moneys. Dude needing credits gets those. Dude wanting gametime for credits gets that. EA doesn't care if it is you or some other guy paying for your sub.

What the heck is there that is so bad at this? Fights, quests and rewards remain even somewhat relevant. Which of these things is so bad`? What on earth do you do on those planets now that suffers from this? Bunnyhop around killing gray mobs?Or you run some massive gathering mats by hand-industry? I seriously don't get you people. Best part, you whine enough and BW likely actually changes it, lol. I seriously don't get why most of the people playing this game even play this game.