How does leveling through PvP cheapen the intended PvP leveling experience? Go play CoH if you hate PvP so much. That's the quintessential carebear game.

See you in Austin. Bring your own tent.

It's not an exploit, and it can easily be done solo. Step 1: Hit the "queue" button. Step 2: Hit the "Decline" button when the popup comes up. Congrats, youve just helped someone get PvP exp--assuming someone doesnt take your place. Want the exp for yourself? Just hit "Accept" on the popup, and hope that someone else hits "Decline" and no one takes his place.

I say close the game up permanently. Then no one will be able to get any levels at all. Fair?

And any character that did not queue for PvP should be level locked until the PvP characters can match their level, regardless of how long that takes (and it'll take a while, seeing as PvP characters wouldnt be able to PvP).

Lots of threads and posts about super-high level characters, but not a single screenshot or video. So where are they?

Reroll every character regardless if they queued for PvP. That's the only "fair" thing to do.

Still have yet to see any proof of that. Not a single screenshot or vid on the forums showing a level 50 current character. "My friend is level 50" is not proof.

If they lock PvP, they'll have the reverse problem on their hands. Suddenly, PvEers will be super high level while PvPers will be underleveled. Is that fair?

Which means it's not the players controlling whether the BG ends or not. How, then, can you separate players that enjoy PvP from players abusing the system? Remember, two minutes of PvP is still two minutes more than a player can get elsewhere.

Yes I can. I can enjoy the story on my own time. I don't need my ship, companions or anything but gear to PvP, and I can get gear through PvP.

This is not how a BG queue system works. Once the second group leaves, the instance is still open for other players to join, for another 120 seconds. Unless BW did something completely new and different, BGs do not simply "disappear" from queues once they are full. If a player leaves a BG, his spot is opened for another player to take his place.

Guess what people? Not everyone enjoys PvE. Plenty of people will want to level through PvP because 1) they enjoy PvP 2) they can then enjoy the story without having to deal with fighting stupid AI So stop calling for the removal of PvP exp. And for those saying PvPers should just not PvP until this is fixed, doesn't that give PvEers an unfair level advantage? Won't the PvEers then have higher levels and better gear once the PvPers are "allowed" back into PvP zones?

If BGs weren't meant to start without enough players, it would have either been fixed in beta or put on the known issues list to be fixed in live. But it seems like you don't understand how BG queueing works. A BG starts when enough players hit the "queue" button, however not all of those players will hit the"accept" button to join the queue. Therefore there will be a few spots empty that would normally be filled with players that queued afterward. At this time, there aren't enough people to re-fill the queue. Thus, the game waits 120 seconds for more people and if not enough show up, the instance closes. This has nothing to do with the queue starting too soon, it has everything to do with the lack of people hititng "accept."

And what if I just want to PvP? Am I supposed to not play the game until this is "fixed?"

Bump for great justice.

Key words there are "bug in the service." This is not a bug. This is an intended mechanic that is being abused by a small fraction of players.

Here's a thought that I'm surprised no one has thought of: exp based on time played. But no, PvE carebears need to have PvP exp removed completely and all PvPers banned, and PvP hardcores need to have it all and have it now.

I know that. They have always intended PvP to be a valid way to level. If they remove Warzone exp, they will lose hundreds of thousands of players, guaranteed. So shut your mouth, April 2010.

Methinks you don't quite understand what "proof" means. And if they remove exp fro mWarzones because of this, there will be a massive uproar. Don't you dare punish PvPers for PvPing.

Please do not ban people for wanting to PvP.

Wow that dropped fast...

Can we get some patch notes, please, Bioware? It would be nice to know what's changed between the end of beta and launch. Watching streams it's pretty obvious that there have been changes, so it's strange that there aren't any notes up.

What about people that actually want to PvP?