1. Will I benefit from using 2 of them at same time or it that no better than 1 of them? 2. Is the answer to 1 likely to change in the next 2 months? If so, when Exactly?

My heal style is I almost never channel in pvp. I rely on the instant cast spells. So would I be better off getting +crit/+surge than +power/+alacrity?

I've tanked EC HM in recruit mk-1 as an assassin. The other tank had good gear so I just made sure to taunt all of the breath of the masters so he would tank kephis 100%.

we average over 140 stabilizers per run.

Pretty much the only thing that gives us trouble in TFB HM is the phase 1 main boss attacks on our spit receivers. They try playing the angles but they still get hit by a bunch over the 5 minutes or so that phase 1 lasts. Is there any sure fire technique to this to avoid getting hit by any?

This thread is ridiculous. Of course DPS on a dummy is an important check. If a player can't get at least 1700 over 5 minutes it means they don't know their rotation or aren't geared. In my Ops groups the mercs are both around 1800, the sniper and mara are both over 2000 in 5 minute checks. If I had to find a backup for one of them and the backup sputtered along at 1500 I'd know he wasn't a good player. A good player knows their rotation. Now someone can still get 1800 and stink due to issues of awareness. But Nobody who can't get those kind of numbers doesn't stink. That said our group dps # is by know means premier (we'd need another mara) and we still constantly break content in TFB HM by over dpsing. I'd say the actual requirements for a group is pretty low. Maybe 1600 on dummies. Much more important that they are aware 1 of our mercs was dead for almost all of phase 2 of TFB and we still only hit enrage in last couple seconds and killed boss. The only real big DPS check in TFB is kephess's soft enrage and that comes down to how the OPS frames the soft enrage more than anything. Awareness and mediocre dps is enough for the content.

how is it literally the difference between blues and campaign augmented gear? is ur ops group 5/5 yet?

*** 4 tentacle phases is dumb stupid shoddy design and it's tedious. It's not interesting it's just crappy grinding. Cut it to 2 tentacle phases. This is the kind of game direction that would make me and the people I play with unsub. There is nothing fun about spending 7 minutes doing that stupid tentacle combat. *** address the awkward /stuck issues. My ops group has had many random /stuck instat deaths durring the outer space part of the combat. This is frustrating and should have been addressed by QA. Disclaimer my ops group had no problems 1 shotting the first 4 bosses on HM and we beat the 5th boss but I'd still like to register some complaints.

In the end this reads like "wahhhhhh. wahhhhhh. i want stuf to be more diffucalt for other people. I desperately want to prove myself in a video game and the ability for other people to read guides is making this difficult. waaaahhh" but since that's a pretty embarrassing thing to have to say they try to play this off in the improable "wahhhh I'm going to pretend that I can't find 7 other people to do an OP blidn with. waaaahhh. are you buying that I ca't find people??? come on I'm crying REALLY loud waaaah" personally I think doing this is just as embarrassing.

What is the drop likelihood of kararag's hat in Sm, HM, NM?

hmm ok

Which is the hardest, 2nd hardest, not hardest, not easiest, easiest?

It's SWTOR PVP on a PVE server. There are 2 kinds of players on JC. Super casuals that don't give a crap and desperate fat kids who aren't talented enough to PVP in a more competitive situation (a more difficult game, a sport, a pvp server, etc). I think we know which type this thread was started by and we also know that the first group won't read thsi thread.

a PT doesn't need a cotank on the foreman who crushes.

Let's not lie to the man about "top tier performance levels" any of the tanks are virtually identical at the highest levels in terms of survivability. What will stand out to your buddies during TFB HM or something is if you make a mistake. PT are the easiest to avoid mistakes but with a little practice the other tanks aren't that bad. Jug is the worst at "top tier performance levels" because it receives the most micro for very minimal mitigation returns and shockling bad threat generation . Still if you are experienced and competent enough to tank ofor your raid on one class you could be competent enough to do it on another class. You will probably wipe your squad half as much on powertech since you can keep a better eye on the overall fight and situation but it's the difference between maybe 3% of your squads wipes and 6%. To answer the original thread starter. There will never be a time where your PT isn't good enough when equally geared with another tank. There are some times when the assassin is not good enough for the basic content (crusher of foremans cannot be reliably solo tanked by an assassin tank for instance because they suck too much). The jugg is kind of sucky and complicated but it can still handle the same stuff as a PT. That said there are a few fights where the assassin will require the healers to only cast 49 heals on them while the powertech will require 50. That's rarely the straw that broke the camels back. As far as tank responsibility goes, tank error will be why your party wipes because of you. Almost always if you get killed while tanking without an error then it's a either a DPS error that is bogging down the healers or a sequence of straight up healer errors.

oooo nice post jholiday. I want to try Jugg; some mitigation, sometimes I think right? slowest reposting, useless leep uhhh cooldowns. there are a few but they are garbage. blade something? force something else? it lowers ur threat and causes ur party to wipe worst tank good dps looks like classical mmo tank type with good outfit Assasin: Highest mitigation but least tanky force speed is kind of bad compared to leaps no defensive cooldowns except for a debuff unreliable pull, good ranged damage good aoe threat generation best tank but usually about as bad as jug tank using cloak machine is hilarious for wiping your party during boss outfits look to girly PT: short Damage rotation Aoe Threat sometimes Pull medium mitigation but better than juggernaut or assassin boba fett class ranged blaster for reposting fast click speed least likely to be worst tank In the end you can tank any content with any of the tanks. Yes the juggernaut is much worse than the other 2 but he is still good enough most of the time if he is played by a really good player. The thing that slows down the juggernaut is there are fewer really good players than one would like. There are a lot of crappy juggernaut tanks that are pretty borderline that are played by people who think they are good though. Unless the situation gets tricky cross ur fingers and hope it's enough. powertech is easiest tank and since all tanks are good enough that means he is usually best tank. Assassin is the best tank but that almost never happens. Sometimes he is the worst tank no matter what like on the foreman that crushes dudes.

Juggernaut tanks are significantly better than vanguard tanks if played well?? news to me

1650 is on the very low end of acceptable for a geared 50 mara Most well equipped ones do at least 1800 talking operations dummy here a low to medium geared merc for example will still get 1600 minimum DPS with basic rotation competence and they'll take a lot less damage in an op doing it. So, to justify the increased drag on the ops team from having to heal the melee DPS he needs to do more damage.

NO they didn't. Nerf Dialogue beat the first boss but was unable to progress past that point. TORVA NEX 3 MAN CHAMPIONS. 1st I do give credit to Nerf Dialogue tho. they did provide proof of the one boss they were able to beat.

Ev is possible with 3 men. I've done it before

I didn't think anybody would have trouble believing we did it. I'll see if anybody has some stream footage or anything.

Some would say the guild vs guild/cross faction greifing and high stakes that team will use up their stims for nothing is what makes NMP the most exciting and dynamic PVE content in swtor

GUys relax. Torva nex under the awesome operation team of KatP Viduus and Keshaerys did this with only 3 people.

The Torva Nex team of Katp, Keshaerys and Viduus ahd no problem 3 manning this today. Just takes a little getting use to

It was performed by katp, tyger, and keshayris, next:one of the other ops.