Dude, spoiler tags. As for my favorites...it’s hard for me to rank them, because I have found ways to love all of them, but if I had to try.. 1. The Last Jedi 2. Empire Strikes Back 3. Revenge of the Sith These three brought us a lot of interesting twists, new perspectives on the Force and the philosophies around it, and built up more characters and made them relatable. 4. A New Hope 5. Rogue One I can no longer separate these two, as they go so well together. A New Hope having started it all, and Rogue One flows so beautifully into it. We also had two different perspectives: ANH focused on Luke and the Jedi philosophy of the Force. While Rogue One had the Force and dug deeper into some of the philosophy, it’s focus was a lot more on common Rebels, and that was really cool to me. 6. Return of the Jedi 7. The Force Awakens Sorry, they’re good, but with the others it ends up lower. Watching it as I’m older, the victory of the Ewok’s is very odd. With TFA, it was a decent start, and I can see the complaints about ANH 2.0. But I still enjoyed it. Also, for the record, NOWHERE in TFA does it say that Luke left the map himself. All that’s ever said is it’s a map to Luke, most likely the same one he used. 8. Attack of the Clones 9. The Phantom Menace I have no qualms with Jar Jar. But it felt like there was a lot of discussion in TPM about yound Anakin when it wasn’t necessary. I know they had to squeeze in that he’s the Chosen One prior to Obi-Wan saying it on Mustafar, but it didn’t flow very well. Attack of the Clones, while some cringy dialogue, was fairly decent as it started the Clone War and Anakin’s downfall. I would say it would’ve gone better had Anakin’s and Padme’s romance hadn’t felt so rushed and creepy at times.

I usually try to keep to canon. If something from Legends seems to have been mentioned in the canon I might use it (for example, it’s theorized that Revan is canon due to the crystal in Luke’s hut was said to be a red kyner crystal and talisman of a Jedi Crusader, according to the visual dictionary). Canon. It’s in the Visual Dictionary (another poster posted he wiki link and quote) i’m fairly certain Holdo got lucky, or the Force did weird thigs at that moment. She had to ht at the exact moment before hyperspace started, and there’s no good way to predict that due to how quick it happens. I’m fairly certain both. Range is a key, but it’s key in that you have to be in the exact right spot. Too close and you smash, too far and you enter hyperspace and miss. And a computer can only do so much. But remeber that both the missile and the enemy ships will be moving, so the calculations would constantly be changing, similar tonhow they would randomly change in our own space missions. A few possibilities: - it gets lost in hyperspace until it runs out of juice - it drops out of hyperspace but is nowhere near the target and just stalls - it drops out and hits a random target causing massive unintended casualties Probably more possibilities, those are the ines that come to my mind. I mean, that still depends. We know of it on Smuggler ship and capital ships. For fighters, we know Luke’s X-Wing had it for plot reasons. Maybe a few others like in R1. Perhaps they were specially equipped for long range hit-and-run missions. We also see that Poe and the others have to reboard the Raddus in order to jump. EDIT: just a fair warning, I don’t have many posts left. I’ve been running on a guildmate’s referral code

An interesting theory, one that I like a lot. I wish there was a more canon version of what Kreia said, although it seems we can infer it with other examples in the films (where did Luke learn Force Choke to get past Jabba’s guards? He never saw Vader do it, nor would Obi-wan or Yoda have taught him that). As for the Force manipulating things, I know this is how I have accepted it, but could a similar concept be applied to things like Leia surviving, in that it still needed her to assist the bringing about of balance in some way like finally driving her lesson about leadership home to Poe?

That was probably me, but the video you had linked of Obi-wan was from the non-canon Clone Wars mini-series. You linked nothing from Rebels and I saw nothing in Obi-wan’s history on Wookiepediea to back up your claim. In that clip though, he stopped fire....from a bounty hunter. Dropping bombs..via magnetics...which also ensurd the bombs hit their targets. Except it’s only lightspeed to enter hyperspace. Activate it too soon and you miss your target because it enters hyperspace and passes through. Too late and you just wasted a hyperdrive. At that point you moght as well just launch a regular missile. Don’t forget that in Rogue One, strike fighters jumped to lightspeed into Vader’s ship and just exploded. Size matters, and velocity matters, as you have to hit at just the right time to get Holdo’s effect, which could be a microsecond of difference. Higher risk of missing the target. Again, it’s a waste of a hyperdrive, which who knows how much they cost. I mean the Empire only really had them on their big ships. TIE ships were only short range. I’m honestly confused as to how things like Luke’s X-Wing, a Rebel Alliance fighter ship, had a hyperdrive when Imperial fighters did not.

And I’ve seen both sides attacking to the point where they’ll say one side aren’t true Star Wars fans solely because they did/didn’t like it. More than a few liked it, it’s just small groups on both sides that are attacking the other side. I know people that liked it, and people that didn’t. That’s perfectly fine. But just because we like it doesn’t mean we are kids or are not true fans or whatever, and those who didn’t like aren’t all salty or hardcore lLegends fanatics that despise Disney throwing out the old EU.

Random fact about the Porgs. While they became more marketing focused (like how they are on the Falcon), the island they used was a wildlife preserve, and there were puffins everywhere. Porgs were digital costumes for them since they couldn’t physically remove them and digitally removing them might have been tricky

The creator of Star Wars literally calls R2-D2 a MacGuffin. R2-D2 is given the plans to the Death Star..why him? Where did he come from? Why did Leia think he was the best choice? R2 moves fhe plot along, from taking the plans, to inadvertedly finding Luke, to suddenly having belonged to Obi-Wan, to being able to control a trash compctor that would have otherwise ended Han, Luke, Leia, and Chewy. He is the entire reason the plot of ANH moves forward. All this to say, Finn being a MacGuffin at that point isn’t bad. The majority of the First Order was on that base, so it figures Finn would have been there at some point, especially with how longn it would’ve taken to be built. He brings it up because he finds out Rey was taken there, and he only wants to save Rey.

Because we didn’t have Starkiller plans like they had for the Death Star? Macguffins aren’t always bad anyway. And since you seem to hate on MacGuffins....”On the commentary soundtrack to the 2004 DVD release of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, writer and director George Lucas describes R2-D2 as "the main driving force of the movie … what you say in the movie business is the MacGuffin … the object of everybody's search"” (1) (1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin

Beat Kylo multiple times? I can only think of one time that she beat him, and he was injured and unbalanced. She keeps getting called a Mary Sue due to her skills and Force abilities, but there are genuine explanations. - Piloting the Falcon? I mean she helped Uncarr Plutt work on it. She clearly knew how to fly well enough when it came to the quadjumper that gets blown up. - Fighting skills? Surviving on a desert scavenger world is tough. You gotta know how to survive. - Force abilities? Stories and belief. She knew the legends of the Jedi, and she believed once she realized she had some potential. Yoda’s only comment to Luke in ESB was that he failed because he didn’t believe. She has flaws, where she’s incredibly naive, believing Finn on first meeting that he was Resistance despite BB-8’s aggression toward him. She believes Kylo will turn if she goes to him, which horribly backfires. Etc. Finn? A janitor that is an absolute coward until Crait? Who, had he not gone on the sidequest, would’ve led to a much quicker end to the movie? Who becomes willing to sacrifice himself and truly believes in the Rebel cause? Let’s not forget that without him they wouldn’t have been able to beat the Starkiller. BB-8? Everyone needs an astromech droid wth them.

He could’ve. I don’t onow what goes on behind the scenes. However, I think there was a large difference between what he read in the script when he said he didn’t like it to when he saw the finished work, and that might’ve had an impact on the difference in his comments. It might still not have been his Luke, but I have a feeling J.J. Abrams was heading that direction anyway given some things in TFA.

Oop, that is the Clone Wars miniseries, is it not? Which is also now non-canon sorry, couldn’t help myself. He jumped in there to buy time. That was the best time to do so. I mean, he could’ve done so before the FO went to Crait, but it wouldn’t be as big of a diversion then I gladly disagree, and that allows for this type of conversation. I agree that that was Mark Hamill’s first impression. But I agree more with this Hamill post (both the tweet and the linked interview comments):

He actually didn’t leave the map. It’s considered a map to Luke, perhaps the same one he used, but he didn’t make or leave it. But nowhere in the movie do they say that he himself left it. Han also says that Luke felt responsible and just walked away from everything. The Jedi Temple wasn’t necessarily fact, but more Han saying as if he heard second-hand, “Rumors. Stories. The people that knew him best say....” Both single attacks. One cast of lightning. One blaster bolt from a rifle. That’s quite a leap from there to 30 seconds of constant fire from 6-7 AT-ATs. Vader is the Chosen One after all, and became an expert at killing fully trained Jedi, meanwhile in Luke vs Rey Luke wasn’t trying to win, and despite that he was still winning the fight.

I have no issues with people disliking it. A close friend at my church was not as much a fan, although he was more indifferent toward it. He also said he’d have to see it a second time, not sure if he did yet. If it brings about discussion, that’s a good thing. It’s not perfect for me, but I can find ways to justify what seemed odd to me outside of physics related stuff. This game does technically count for comparing because it’s part of the old EU. You never know who will try to say the old stuff was better, so I add it as a sort of preemptive sort of claim. Similar to my Consular point, because it’s not like this is he first time we’ve seen this, it’s just the first time technically in canon, but not in the history of Star Wars. I don’t mean the PvE and PvP aspect, but the actual lore and stories. I would say while raw power, it’s just that, raw. Untrained. We’ve seen in other places such as Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Season 2, Episode 3, titled Children of the Force, shows an infant levitating a ball), and this very game as an example. Both the Sith Inquisitor and Jedi Consular have some raw power. The Consular is said to have been stronger in the Force at 4 than their master was at 15. The Twi’lek that takes the one holoprojector in the Consular prologue on Tython has raw enough power to collapse a cave. The Jedi masters we know may have had similar raw power when they were younger, but they were trained to control it, to restrain themselves unless necessary. But like I said, Luke doesn’t try to fight her back, and he still manages to beat her until she draws the lightsaber. She’s nowhere in his league. She has raw strength, but he is a true master and controlled that situation. As I said, he didn’t even let himself fully fall to the ground when she had the saber, and could have easily defeated her. Raw strength is one thing, but it’s nothing compared to a master. I’m aware Luke died, and saw it a fitting way to go for him. He died at peace, having said what he needed to say. Kylo can’t claim that he killed Luke because members of the First Order saw it, the Rebellion knows that’s not the case, and the story is spreading like wildfire. And you can see on Kylo’s face when he realizes what happens, and he is furious, because he knows he didn’t kill him. And that truth will haunt him. Since you say not to use the game, or Legends in that case, how about Luke in Dagobah. Yoda has him lift rocks until he truly believes he can do it and learn control. Yoda’s two biggest points in using the Force were “Control, control, you must learn control,” and, when Luke only says he doesn’t believe he can lift the X-Wing but Yoda does it, “That is why you fail.” Yoda didn’t say he had to jump through all these hoops, he saod he needed control because he had none, he just did, and that he needed to believe. Rey, once realizing she does have the Force, quickly latches on and believes, even if she’s scared like she tells Luke, but she lacks proper control. Which was why she couldn’t resist the pit when meditating and couldn’t sense Snoke behind their bond. And again with hyperspace ramming, it’s unreliable, but also costly and risky. You have to be willing to throw away whatever it is that you are using on the slim chance that it’ll actually hit the target. Ramming Naval ships is a little easier because you aren’t immediately going into another dimension. It comes down to what the actual cost is to build a ship to do that compared to building an actual superweapon, that could he reused, as well as the cost of lives needed. Holdo had a tough choice to make in her kamikazee. She could have escaped but then the rest of the Resistance would be dead. And it wasn’t fully worth it as she didn’t destroy the Supremacy, and the First Order still had a bigger fleet, and that was a cruiser, no less. The Resistance/Rebellion now have the Falcon. They could have another capital ship somewhere, but we don’t know that.

Ok, lets also look at the original points: First off, at least based on what we saw, Yoda and Obi-wan only really taught Luke the basics. Obi-wan taught him to trust his instincts and the Force, Yoda taught him how to believe in the Force to help him lift stuff. Neither taught him how to use a saber beyond deflecting bolts. Second, he never tried to fight her back and win. He Force Pulled a poece of metal and was able to deflect all her attacks after she first struck him before he got the stick, then he disarmed her. The only reason he fell back was her pulling the lightsaber on him, and there wasn’t much the stick could do. Even when he fell back he gently lowered himself, showing he still had control of the situation. He could have thrown her off the cliff or pulled the saber away. He chose not to. Weak? Projecting himself across the galaxy for that long takes a lot. No other Jedi did that on screen before, so we have no idea how much strain he suffers by doing that across the galaxy. It was one of the strignest things Luke could do given his situation (his X-wing appeared junked so he couldn’t really fly there), and then became one with the Force, a technique that only 4 recently before him achieved. Plus him being there to fight would not have had the same impact, because it would have been Kylo truly killing him, and imagine the impact that would have on both sides. Luke, however, was able to confess his failure to Ben, allow the Resistance to escape and give them hope, and make Kylo look foolish in front of the First Order (not a great first day as Supreme Leader). Invention of Force powers to fill plot points? Sidious’s lightning. Vader Force Choking, Mind tricks, all made up Force abilities to further plots. Let’s not forget all the Force abilities made up in the EU (example from this game, Vitiate’s ritual? Forcewalking? Force Storm/wormhole?). As for Leia (since her surviving a vacuum seems to be a target here as well), I see it more as the Force, which has been said to have a will, still had a purpose for her and decided to keep her alive. Force Ghost going around killing people? Remember the Force wants balance, and it allowed Yoda to do what was necessary to teach and preserve that balance. Notice how he didn’t actually cast the lightning like Sith do. More moved a natural phenomena. I can imagine Force Ghosts killing people would cause some weird balance issues. Ramming ships with lightspeed isn’t very cost effective and has massive reliability issues. Not to mention that she didn’t fully destroy The Supremacy, only separated the left “wing” from the rest of the ship. The trailing ships that were destroyed were hit by super fast debris. Don’t forget that the ships that tried to jump to hyperspace through Vader’s ship in Rogue One just exploded. It’s an incredibly unreliable tactic.

As far as the losing speed when out of fuel is concerned, When have the laws of physics truly applied to the Star Wars universe though? We have swords made out of plasma, spaceships with wings on them, a star destroyer having its bridge destroyed and simply falling into the Death Star. Ships like X-wings and TIE fighters banking to make turns when there is no need to, and most ships seemingly only have one set of thrusters, so how do they even turn to begin with? Let’s not forget the gravity on a random asteroid and enough pressure that Han and Leia just need breath mask to survive. As for the lightspeeding to be closer, the issue with that is most ships aren’t seen speeding up before they enter hyperspace. They’re just there, then they jump, at which point they’d most likely overshoot the target, which would allow the Resistance to get away. Hux wanted to toy with them, I’d say he did a fairly good job overall until Holdo decided to do a hyperspace sacrifice.

Very much this. Not to mention that the fleet cantina RP is a small subset of the rest of the RP community. RPers are everywhere, from the starter planets to strongholds to fleet to any planet that suits their story's needs.

Speaking only from personal experience, I decided to roll on EH when I did because it was labelled an RP server. I was on Shadowlands to start, and wanted to actually watch scenes and if I said something in character, the group was just like "what are you doing?" So I swapped when I saw it was an RP server, even though I had never really RP'd before that. It was the idea of being in a community that was full of RPers that caught my interest and drew me in. I am very much an advocate for it to get the official label back. As far as chat, it's also very easy to lose emotes in the slew of chat, like on Korriban on Ebon hawk for example, when people sit at the academy entrance and just duel and use say to talk to each other out of charcter.

Well this conversation seems to have pulled a bit away from new AC, but a question I recently came up with was..what would these new ACs offer to actually differentiate them or make them worth picking outside of weapon changes? A new pure melee DPS JK spec with a saberstaff? What would be the benefit of picking one over a Sentinel? This is something I thought of recently that might need addressed to avoid overlapping too much. As for this.. In a way, as people can look how they want. But there is a lot of work to relax those limitations at this point, plus you lose the visual cues as to what the classes are and what they are doing...well, for the lightsabers. Blasters don't have that much difference in animation (although it'd be amusing to see a trooper try to shoot mortars from a pistol.. They theoretically can, but they severely gimp their fighting, given how many core skills for Shadows say "requires a doublebladed saber or electrostaff".. Anakin also got his butt kicked one of those times he tried (i can only think of one unless the other was in the Close Wars). He could do it, but wasn't the greatest at it. He's also the only one in all of the movies who weilded a saberstaff. He might not be an assassin, but doesn't mean it's a terrible weapon for an Assassin. A weapon like that is excellent due to the versatilty. You don't need both blades ignited at the same time, and in some instances, they make it easier for them to cut through multiple enemies. They also have the Force to hide them, so the weapon isn't really that obvious, besides the fact it'd stay off until they were ready to strike. Also the fact that the Sith Assassins we see most, the ones in KotOR games, wield a solid pike... I don't believe anyone actually claimed it is an Assassin only weapon lore-wise, but in terms of clarity and animations in game. Things like this would cause dev power to be moved to making new animations, both ability and cutscene (because who doesn't love watching a shadow or assassin cut themselves with the back blade when fighting in cutscenes..) when it isn't a necessity atm. They would also need other ways to show what class your enemy is, because I have a feeling there are more people than just me running with nameplates shut off because of the clutter.

New advanced classes are really the best way for BW to introduce a new class type, given the level of work required to introduce an entire class, especially since Swtor ACs are more like the regular classes in most other MMOs than the base classes are. That said..the problem with letting classes use whatever (ex: Guards or Sents use saberstaves) is identification, gamepay-wise. Idk if this was stated or if it's actually the point, but wasn't most of the weapon decisions based on being able to tell what class was hitting you, at least in PvP? You see two sabers coming at you, you know it's a sent. One saber, you knew was a Guard. And saberstaff you knew was a Shadow. Once you start mixing them, it can get confusing. If you don't introduce new classes for that, then it also becomes even more work for the devs as they have to then make animations for almost every ability based on what weapon is used. Lore-wise....not every Jedi or Sith could use a saberstaff. According to Blademaster Kas'im: Most avoided it because of the drawbacks and training it required, especially since those who attempted without the proper skill or discipline could easily bisect or impale themselves with the second blade. Parrying with the blade was also a challenge. Ultimately, not every force user could use them.

I'm currently enjoying the Blade Savant robe on my Zabrak Jedi Guardian, on part because it looks good and it was most affordable robe with the hood down, alongsa with a lookalike of Malgus's saber (totally don't have a lifesized version in the living room..). Also love the WL-29 Blaster Rifle on my Vanguard. Feels like a close-range weapon, almost like a shotgun.

That's how I understood it as well. Mainly for the Hilt Bash ability and him only asking how to maximize dps, at which point the only real way would be to change to a dps spec and use the resoective armorings. He can do it if he wants, especially in SM, but group leaders do have the right to kick if he isn't fulfilling what he said he would. One has to keep in mind that they have 3-15 other players to work with, and if a style is holding the rest of the group back, you'll probably be asked to change or be booted. And to be fair, he also never said what he had as an offhand. If he's not using a shield, almost the entire Defense tree is useless. Gonna assume he was using the shield though. EDIT - not to mention, War Leader (his resitive armorings and only known tank pieces) 2 and 6 piece set bonuses are defense boosters (2-piece grants damage reduction when using Guardian Slash and 6-piece increases durations of Blade Turning and Warding Call), and the 4-piece is useless if he actually was aiming for dps, because it reduces taunt CD, which he would never use anyway.

Shadows and VGs have an edge on threat because of the threat generation of Force Pull and Harpoon. But if you're using the same skills as a tank, which all have high threat gen, then with the extra damage of the mods, you'll rip aggro. Tanks would probably have to be prepared to keep taunts going quite a bit. and ripping aggro can have dangerous effects, such as ripping it a moment the boss starts a cleave, at which point he'd be facing much more of the group.

Perhaps, but he was claiming to be a dps Guardian, asking hpw to maximize his damage output. Easiest solution is play in a dps spec. Some have said they'd let him be as long as they meet dps checks, but we don't know the full situation of those times he got kicked, like, how long before he was kicked? Was it due to an enrage? Did he keep ripping aggro? It's one thing if the group is aware and adjusts, and another if he's doing it without anyone knowing. Skank tanks can work in PvE, but the group has to be prepared for less damage, and he'll have to be guarded to lower threat gen, potentially even forcing the tanks to taunt nonstop due to aggro. It's not just a resource management issue. He won't have the defenses of a tank, and if he's using guardian slash and hilt bash (which I'm inclined to believe given he said later "it's all about that hilt bash"), then he'll easily surpass the main tank and offtank in threat, and with no way to reduce his own aggro, while also dealing less damage. Skanks can work, but they'll have to be set as tanks, not dps, so the threat issue isn't as bad.

PvE is too easy? Man, I guess you must be able to jump right into NiM Ops then, if it's so easy.

Dps relics give endurance while tank relics really don't (not sure about BiS) and the passives on them as well as the mastery can help hit dps checks on bosses. Tank relics mainly give power and defense rating for the stats, and the procs aren't that great (ex: I believe reactive warding gives an absorb shield, but currently the various absorb shields, like VGs sonic rebounder, Guardian's Blade Barricade, Sage's Force Armor, and scoundrel's..i dunno what it's called, don't stack. Only one applies and the others won't do anything)