BURN THEM! I mean nerf them!

You know, I suspect the same with the bolstering and GS

be a op tankassassin and pwn everyone

Title says it all. Anyone have a nice list of all the off GCD abilities with the three tree's included?

pve'er alert =D

I'm confused why the op even bothered with this lecture of a post. Is it inflated self importance? Why not let ppl voice their pvp concerns. With more voices about pvp, good or bad, the more attention the game will put towards pvp. If all is silent about pvp, then pve will get all the attention from the game designers.

I read the op. I'm a true pvper. Meaning I dont pve at all since level 10. Pvp gear should be the best for pvp. If you do away with pvp gear, better have crafting be the best pvp gear cause I'm a true pvper. I wont be doing pve for gear . Let the pve'ers have their pve and let the pvpers have their pvp =D

I read up to page 4. I'm not trolling when I ask why dont people want cross realm warzones? In those four pages all I read is that without cross realm warzones they have a "sense of community." Certainly this social engineer BS cant be the reason. So what is the real reason for not wanting cross realm warzones? Im open to being educated. I'm a pvper and warzones are about pvp. Is it pve'ers that pvp that dont want more action ie faster queues? Or is there a legit reason for a pvper like myself on this pvp issue?

yeah let pugs fight pugs. Vent is HUGE advantage. Dont like to pug group means you dont like to pvp. Premaders will only pvp when things are stacked in their favor. No respect for these guys since they arent pvpers in my eyes.

As soon as it was revealed that there was pvp servers, I knew it to be a pvp game.

Lol i'm a altaholic too. Terrible disease =D imho , to get them off your back you want to straf out of there. If you backpedal, youre moving to slow. You want to get to that 6m distance or greater. When they're behind you, just turn around and zoom through them at a strafe and angle yourself facing them to run out in the distance. Getting that 6m distance the priority which wont happen if you backpedal. Funny part is I dont see the point of bunny hopping. If you arent hopping to exploit a badly made game where they cant hit you when you hop (happened in rift), then I feel hopping makes you lose response time. I mean you cant move while you are in the air. You cant react with a change of direction. Further, when I pvp I often do it from a lookiing down position. When you hop, it doesnt look like youre doing much =D

Dont use your backwards key! those ppl are called backpedalers and are made fun of. The only time I move backwards is when I watch to exactly match the speed of a backpedaler when I'm behind him already. Use your straf key. You can angle your guy to slightly face them so they have less chance to hit your back or side(it shouldnt be side for a backattack but another easymode in the game). But if that melee is on your back, I suggest using straf movement and running through him. All you need is desync/lag of the server to aid you and just get 6m distance and youre out of their melee range.

I'm with the other pvp'ers. I'd even go a step further than anyone is willing to go and say that movement takes more skill than hitting the right key every 1.5 secs. Movement like strafing and getting to someone's back when they're trying to prevent you from doing so and trying to get to yours makes for some really great fights. If you're melee, you should be trying to get to someone's back. If you are a kiter, get to their back and keep going. All you need is 1m away from their melee range and you are good. Melee played correctly is harder than kiting. I play everything and find kiting to be relaxing in comparison to pure melee. Now with no collision detection, I see alot of bad movement. I see ppl that dont use their straf key. They go straight, turn 180, straight, turn 180. They're playing defensive. If you're a melee and fighting another melee and are only trying to stop another player from getting to your back (defense), you're the less skilled player. I loved warhammer where they had collision detection. Especially if both are slowed, because it becomes a precision fight and the best will slide behind the other. If they mouse turn each time you did this, you know you outskilled them. But ppl like the OP dont want a skilled game ie I'm sure they are really happy about autoface. Hey I jsut had a thought. I wonder if they could make a collision detection game that would somehow prevent the person from mouse turing while standing still. What i mean is slowing him down. Like if you are still and mouse turn, you turn slowly. That would make for a skilled movement game =D

Melee is definately harder to play than range in pvp. When I play my jedi knight, I have to work my arse off to always be in position (at their back) and stay with them. If they constantly run through me when they see i'm in range still, I will eventually hit with a little hicup lag and be 1m out of melee range and I'm screwed. So it's alot of work to play melee like jedi knight. You may say i have snare or the 12 sec jump. But they have counters like punt/stun/ snare as well. Jedi knights are not loaded with CC ablities like other classes. Now if you arent trying to stay at someone's back as a melee, you arent playing your melee right. If you arent kiting a saber wielder as a range, you arent playing your class right. When I play my range classes and kite, It feels like easy mode. Play a melee how it's suppose to be played before you say melee dont have it harder in pvp.

I just wanted to voice my two cents as a pvp'er. From what I read here, and if I understand correctly, if top pvp gear has a equal chance to go to a pve'er as it does to a pvper, that really is unfair. I'm refering to the post that said that top gear is given through daily and pvp quests. Pve'ers have their pve. Why do they want to be equal in pvp too? They should demand that pvp'ers arent equal in pve which is their realm. I'm a pvp'er meaning I dont do pve after the necessary level 10. If those pve'ers think that only doing pvp over and over again doesnt foster skill, they need their head checked. Practice makes perfect as they say. Your skill at pvp increases through your practice at pvp. Pve'ers only rationalize if they think they are just as good at pvp as a pvp'er when they spend 15 hours a week doing pve and only pvp enough to finish their daily/weekly pvp quest. Anyways, I hope this is a mistake or I'm misunderstand in that top pvp gear is given through pvp daily/weakly quests.