Its nothing bad that players like to pvp in MMOPRG but "serious pvp" give me a break...
Guild wars has a very nice and competitive pvp but its not a MMORPG... its a pvp game with history mode, items dont make any advantage at all its all about creating a good build and know how to use it u can pvp with the same bonus that all the players creating a toon in 5 mins, thats serious pvp, just skill matters, no braindead farm and uberzz items.
MMORPGs with the sh.itload of item stats and a thousand of habilities to spam its a complete joke, not to mention the horrible syc in most of MMORPGs and lag.