No, they arent saying anything like that... they are trying to make amends to all the level 50 pvp'ers they just pissed off with what we perceived as a bait and switch in regards to the ranked wz's.

knowing Bioware you will probably have to buy a piece of meat on Nar Shadda, then go to tatootine and bake it in the sun on a rock for 3 hours to dry it into jerky. After you have the jerky you will need to go to hutta and have it seasoned, then you will need to go to Hoth and kill some world boss Tauntaun to enter its lair and hopefully attract a baby Tauntaun with your freshly made jerky.

This is the main thing I want! My pvp team from my guild would all love to go on the ptr and test, but the only call bw put out was for pve testers

Ok, I can handle that..... Now how bout the other requests?

I understand that, I work on cars for a living, aftermarket installation. I always attempt to give my customer's a realistic estimation of time needed, but always explain to them external factors that I cant control which could arise. That being said, bw could give us an estimate, just like they did for the entire patch

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We discussed this on our vent tonight, glad someone agrees

Bioware, if you really wanna save your pvp community, do this. 1. Give us a realistic timeframe on when rated will be. 2. Communicate with us on what the issues are, and solutions 3. Allow Immediate transfers to the ptr for pvp guilds/players That will prove to me you want my sub.

No, thats not good enough, the community wants a window.... I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you're window probably has a far end of the next major subscrition renewal period, i'm right, arent i? You're PVP team hard at work is definately NOT a way to comfort us either, not after what your pvp team has already DUMPED on our pvp community.

ROFL.... Oh wow man, you damn well know how many sub numbers went up since the announcment of Ranked WZ's. You now seriously expect all of us to believe that TODAY was the best time to come out with the announcment that there would be no ranked WZ's? If you were ever serious about testing pvp content you should have brought some pvp'ers over to the test server, but wait, you didnt. two words - Money Grab. That is all this was, and all i will ever see it as, and its how i will remember this game sadly.

No, i dont, by any means, i believe they cant figure a damn thing out at all when it comes to pvp design. Their Mythic (Warhammer Online) guys are definately showing through in this cluster****.

Just admit what you did, the smart people see it... You wanted Sub numbers up, ranked WZ's got that, and now you are trying to string people along for another sub period. Yeah, its really that obvious.

Oh Great, so you are giving us another jacked up form of getting gear, like the fun farming WZ comms was to buy Merc comms so we could buy Battlemaster comms. You know with the bad luck some of us have had with the RNG we are COMPLETELY sick of grinding for days through WZ's to obtain a single damn BM comm. Now you are going to make us grind even more comms to get our WH gear? My God, do you people as a company really have no imagination in figuring out a better way to dangle a carrot in front of your pvp playerbase? I can see it now... 1000wz comms 1000 merc comms 1000 ranked WZ comms to get a single piece of gear. Or maybe it will be to just buy a bag with a chance to get a piece of gear? WOW.... just WOW

Wow.... i know quite a few people on my server who during the past few days resubbed in anticipation of ranked WZ's. This feels like the one of the biggest MMO money grabs in history, draw people back in for ranked WZ's only to announce hours before the patch it wont make it in, thus hoping people will keep those subs open until they make it in. BW i had alot of faith in you, i kept going with you till now, fully hoping you would get it right, well you havent, its still completely wrong, and as much as i hate looking like one of the other forum warriors.... F IT! I'm done, unsubbed, OUT! Good luck, not that i think you have much future with this game.

Yeah, I was hoping to see all the times I escaped on my op (healer)

you mean our dot clearing mechanic which as an Operative i can tell you since the last patch only works about half of the time? (seriously, *** did they break with the patch !? ) I agree with and fully support the OP!

Well i am going to endeavour on a personal crusade to make Bioware pay attention to what Operatives have to say. I am extremely stubborn, and if it takes me re-posting this every single day or even more.... i will. I love my Operative, i love the feel of the class, the aesthetics of it, the story, i have never enjoyed a class more in any mmo i have played. I will not go quietly into the night.

Since you brought that up without even asking what type of Operative i am... Hello, my Operatives name is Sylindis, and Sylindis is a Medicine spec'd Op and has been since day 1. I have never melted peoples faces, i put them back together. And if thats your answer to my post, then i already know that you have absolutely no clue what changes have been proposed to agents, nor the effect it will potentially have for both concealment and lethality PvP AND PvE performance. I do thank you for the free bump though.

Now onto my serious plea, go have a look in the Operative forums, its not pretty, hell its downright ugly. What did you expect with these changes? We want feedback, its all we ask. We want to know why you have made the changes you have. We want to know what your vision is for our class, it feels like every content patch has brough some kind of hammer swinging down upon us, you know, the kind thats kinda soft, almost foam like, rhymes with turf? We have questions, and we deserve answers, Operatives are fastly becoming an endangered species, and we dont wanna go extinct, at least i know i dont. We want constructive conversation, we really aren't a bunch of bad people in there, we are people that love our class and dont understand what exactly is going on with it. Yes we like the healing changes, and we are even praising you for those, yet even those buffs mostly came as a result of nerfs to mercs and sorcs. So please, pretty please, come talk to us? i'll bring cake, pie, cookies.... bribes if thats what it takes?

sweet, cant wait to start shooting people with my nerf gun.... they will finally know *** it feels like to be nerfed in every major content update.

hahahaha..... i LOVE it! I have been playing MMO's for around 10 years, and that has got to be the best nerf story i have ever seen.

+1 ... i am a healing Op, so i cant complain much, but i am at a complete loss as to what BW has envisioned for Ops in general. To me it feels like they just completely dont know what they want the class to do.

All i'm gonna say on the matter is this. Theres still time Bioware, apoligize to the community for the mistakes you made and set it right. Closely look at what you are doing in 1.2 with several classes, and seriously look at server merges because i dont think anyone here wants another WAR escapade. I hate to admit it, but you cant deny the fact the majority of server populations on the US side (cant speak for EU) have steadily dropped since game launch. Its a new game, to be fair your compnay had never attempted an MMO before, i understand that, and i hope alot of others do as well. I still like this game, i still enjoy playing this game, and i want to continue playing this game for quite some time. We all make mistakes, now just do what is right.... Say you are sorry, you messed up in a few areas, and give us some real solutions to the problems.

Sounds to me like he's a fresh 50 who was wrecked by a battlemaster op..... Kinda like all the whiners that got Ops nerfed in the first place.

Wait...what....? Did he really just say operatives have too much CC? Hahahahahahah.... Class with the least Damn cc you mean.