I think if you want to see the movie you will have to buy a ticket...sorry

Read become informed and ...then post Thanks

Read, become informed and then post. Goodbye

Please read the stickies, become informed and then post........my god...I can not believe people.

Relax and wait for the process to complete.....perhaps it will become clear what the goals are. Until then you are stressing about stuff beyond your control

I am so freaking tired of people posting without being informed. Please know your topic before you post. You only make yourself look silly.

PvP arguments like this are just a disgusting waste of time. Too many variables to anyone to truly know which class is better or worse. Most of the time it comes down to player skill, understanding the class you are fighting against and how to counter it. Xinika has already said she will easily defeat any class she fights post 1.3 and will do so using any of the Shadow specs....so where is the problem? The bigger issue to me is making the Shadow weaker in PvE to satisfy people in PvP. Its just an endless stupid cycle in my opinion. Who really cares? Play and have fun...as long as you are still competitive does it really matter that much?

Xinika - I have great respect for you and your support of the Shadow community...but you are better than this

No reason to accept a lower standard...either

I would say everyone play and test on PTS...evaluate the changes provide constructive feedback to the devs....then...come here and discuss the issues...otherwise..you are all just making guesses as to how your class will actually play. They may be well educated guesses but still....guesses...lots of changes here to lots of classes.

Great write-up...awesome news.....and Thank you

I dont understand...they may not have touched sentinels very much...but are not these the patch notes for Sentinel? Sentinel •The tooltip for Cauterize now displays the correct damage amount. Functionality for this ability has not changed. • Corrected an issue that prevented Ataru Form's triggered attacks from displaying visual effects in some circumstances. •The responsiveness of Riposte and Precision Slash has been increased. Combat •Opportune Attack: This skill's tooltip now displays the correct chance for its effect to trigger (15%/30%). The skill's functionality has not changed. •Precision Slash: This ability now costs 1 Focus and is no longer limited by the global cooldown. Its damage has been reduced, and the duration of its armor penetration debuff has been reduced by 1.5 seconds to ensure the effective duration is the same.

The only question I have for the OP and anyone else who is crying is.....have you played on the PTS yet? I am no expert but you can't just look at the changes to your class but the changes to all the classes and how they impact the game as a whole. Play on the PTS and evaluate before you rage If you have already played on the PTS and completely evaluated all the changes then I salute you

Well said

Just wanted to say thank you for such a detailed list of patch notes...I know people have been crying for more detail and you delievered I like the class balance changes overall and I will be curious to see the effect on the overall lanscape in PvP and PvE. This are just my opinions and I am not an expert. I like that it appears damage in general will come down slighty for several classes (depending on spec) and may in fact provide for less of a killing spree feeling in PvP and more strategic gameplay. So, again thank you for what appears to be a very large patch and the excellent patch notes

You already fully tested this on the PTS and decided to unsub? wow

Overall, interesting patch...I see both positives and negatives...depending on wether you like to focus on PvE or PvP....but overall I think its a nice balanced change. I will be curious to see how the changes to all the classes play out against each other in PvP. Cant just look at your class...in my opinion....you should look at the big picture and see how the landscape changed.

All I can say is great post OP..seriously...this is the kind of detail I enjoy seeing when a new patch comes out. Overall I like the approach you are taking with class balance...I know there will be numerous threads crying foul and we were nerfed to death...but lets see what the PTS tells us after some good testing. These are just my personal thoughts and not meant as any sort of expert opinion. Thanks for the great write up....it is appreciated.

I hope they have a very good plan for transfers...perhaps to 10 specific servers...no more than that.....otherwise the population will still be too spread out...in my opinion.

This year is all we know

Well said.....I agree 100%

I agree....in part.......it takes both...but there were too many servers....population too spread out...and no server specific forums at the begining...like I said just my humble opinion

Unfortunately when Bioware decided server specific forums were not important and did not create them...they prevented the spontaneous community building which normally takes place in MMO's to a large degree. Lack of organizational tools for the players easily access on this website slowed progress (other player created websites had to be created to provide this service) in planning server events, roleplaying events, guild recruitment...etc. Unfortunately, it may be too late for this to happen now....many of the players who played the beta and grew with the game from the beginning have lost faith and moved on....which I wil be doing soon as soon as my sub suns out. It is a shame Bioware seemingly believes they know thier players better than the players know themselves. A great opportunity to build on what SWG started......wasted...in my own humble opinion.

I agree ...transfers ...especially targeted transfers will only be a very short term solution if at all. The population is so low on a majority of the servers that people transfering to a semi-populated server (so as not to overload the few "really" populated ones) will only find themselves right back at square one a few months down the road. It would be great to get some input from Bioware on how exactly the tranfers will work but honestly I have a feeling they may not even know exactly how they will work yet.

I agree with this guy....please merge servers immediately Bioware! We want to play our characters "and" have fun doing it! You are losing subs daily and the faith of your players forever...wake up!