100% retention no. Never suggested that nor have I ever seen it. Point is the population is decreasing and it is compounding itself by affecting others who enjoy the game and can't because others have left and no new additions are replacing them . Ea/Bio is aware of this and stubbornly , inadequately or are unable to,or for whatever reason are not offering transfers in a timely fashion. You seem to know a thing or two about MMO's. How long do you think people will keep being put off by a company/ game until they feel they won't get what they are paying for and decide to go elsewhere. That seems to be occurring at a faster pace now. Which was my original point I'm glad your are one of the ones that is happy with your gaming experience here but what about all the others that (at no fault of their own) are not having the MMO experience they want because of the lack of service that they pay for

BINGO!!. Anyone who has been around with this company/game for more than a couple of months already knows how this team works. If you have been here since release and still want to "give BIo a break fellas, geez!" then you are a true fan and can't be swayed. It's really simple to surmise by yourself, and for yourself ,the state of a game 1. Has the population grown or waned since launch? 2. is it fun repeating it more than once? 3. do you see a positive learning curve or quick response from passed mistakes the Dev team have made? 4.Do you feel encouraged,excited or disappointed by new content or additions to the game? 5.Are you getting enough content influx at end game to keep you interested? 6.Are you excited enough by the game over time that it still keeps you as active as day one up to day 180? If you say yes to all these answers congratulations you found your game . The more NO answers you give the shorter your stay. Don't buy the hype or excuses. It's your money they have to earn it

This would be interesting. If a company would start Deving that game right now .It might be ready in 15 years to get to final product. that's a lot of levels to cover content for but we can dream. OR!! You could Dev a no level cap game !! NAHH that would never work

Good gear Vs bad Gear?, Exaggerating? jumping on the OMG!!! Mara is just to UBER NOW !! band wagon? You get to stand at max distance and spam skills. If you and 2 other Team mates are getting killed by one player it means you don't understand the basics of PvPing . So be honest you just really don't like the formally free kill class becoming a threat now in PvP.. Right ?

A little spoiler for you . When it comes to PvP all MMO's spin the wheel of "who gets to kill everyone this month".. balance does not exist. When your class gets it's shot suddenly the game does not suck so much and you can't understand why everyone is *****in about your class on the forums.

Umm this game is still popular and its called Rift. Better game by the way All comes down to the engine they built the game on really. Eq 2 had decent graphics back in the day and could handle hundreds of players at a time in very heavy animation environment. flawlessly I might add Bio/ Ea just built a weak engine, over time it MAY be tweaked to preform better

HA!?? What!!??. What games can you name that have the same patch fix fix fix fix every update merry go round as Swtor ? I realize, for what ever reason you are a fan of this game but you need to stop applying for the damage control P.R. CEO position. I'm sure they have a stack of applications that they sift through when one of them starts pulling out his hair and mumbling" I should have stayed with Mythic and it's hugely successful Warhammer franchise". One last though. Lose the purple or are you Royalty ?

DEAD.. respawn with FULL resolve bar. Resolve never worked just dump it. To damn dumb to put a damage calculator in to stop stunlock deaths.

You never played EQ1 EQ2 or vanguard . In a way I feel almost sorry for the younger gamer crowd that was born into the WoW type set of gaming Naaaaaahhhh...

This is just a shell of a game really. Bio/Ea spent all its effort on the static story line and content at 50 took a back seat. Level 50 is were the game is supposed to be at it's best , after all it is the destination we all push for instead you feel cheated when you get to the end. Ea/Bio broke the cardinal rule there and are now paying the price for their lack of vision..Wait.. were have I heard that before?

LOL it saved me for a little while anyway. I have 4 high level toons on Shii Cho that don't get played at all because it's to slow on that server now. funny it was one of the original beta servers and now its only mildly active during peak hours. When I said a little while I'll be bailing soon for D3 and I'm not even all that interested in that game but it looks like more fun than this

I see the crate of rose colored glasses have been distributed evenly through out the forums. Mine were broken when I got them but the Tech department swears they will be fixed in the next patch 1.3 " Active" Subs does not really explain why most servers are underpopulated and empty feeling. That active word is a tricky sucker aint it?

Totally agree. I loved that game. That was my first beta , everyone was begging for them not to release but you probably know the debacle. I was just making a comparison to it's issues to Swtor. I remember distinctly when I jumped on my first Juggy way back early in release of this game and half my gear was gone. I laughed because it brought back fond memories of when my Orc Warrior had the very same problem in Vanguard. Sigh, those were good times though.

LOL ...WA WA WHAT !! I betaed and launched that game. How was it the worst ever? Explain PLZ..

Oh boy. I hope your kidding. You may be new to the whole MMO scene but this game I would rank close to 1.Vanguard as far as technical Issues, not as severe obviously but I have not had things disappear from my characters since Vanguard. Now SWtor gets that honor and second prize for money going into Espace , over charged at a vendor and equipment evaporating. 2.AOC as far as lack of content. 3.Aion as far as lack of diversity. 4.Warhammer as far as on the rail. If you played EQ1 or 2, UO or even Vanguard (if it wasnt a technical train wreck,that is) during there heyday you would laugh at what this game offers. Sorry guy this just isnt even close to being on par with most other MMO's. Hell, Rift is a good example of how a game should launch and be run. That game just needs time to mature

Ding Ding Ding . we have a WINNNA!! The red hurts my eyes

You must have 7 characters to level 50 then and listened to EVERY bit of that amazing voice acting over and over and over again. Your ADD finally payed off

All my old toons are on a standard PoP server. It's dead as a doornail . I rerolled on a heavy Population server ( the ONE and ONLY eastern server)to actually do all the aspects of this game Don't let that small word fool you

Two major flaws that I think are driving people away from this game and that is 1. it has very low replay value. Let's face it, even when you reroll a new character you have to do all the same quests on all the worlds (other than your class quests). How many times can you repeat the process all the way to 50? How many times will you listen to the dialog for each quest giver before Nuking your spacebar to get through it? The obvious replay time on this game for most it seems is about 2 or 3 months .Hence the low populations on SO many servers. Number 2 is, the game is SHALLOW,. What do I mean ,no real diversity in course choice,no diversity in quest choices,almost no fluff,carbon clones of every class,meaningless crafting,does anyone actually bother with the space gaming anymore?. and of course this is really just saying the content is very weak. No sense of freedom, this game is so hard railed that you feel and see the Maze that you have to go through on every world ( it's so predictable that it ruins any excitement or mystery) Also, this game is to solo centric. All the way to 50 you don't need another players help until heroics/Ops and that is maybe 15 to 30 minuets time for most of them (until later on) so a big disconnection from any community occurs. Were Bio/EA made a fatal flaw is that they went with the fully voiced story line as the BIG MMO ground breaking element that would shake up the gaming world and it did for about a month after release and now is just a finger exercise with the spacebar. Other factors don't help either. slow content adding, poor communication with player base,Poor decisions on direction of this game that turn off the small loyal following of players. Lets not forget.... Bugs, lots and lots of bugs, going all the way back to beta , unresolved or very long in the fixing and seemingly new bugs at every patch. This all undermines customer confidence that this team is NOT capable of bringing us a good game or experience.

Has it been officially announced yet? It has been a rumor for a long time, I'm just hoping it will go into actual development.

UNFORTUNATELY ..All the out rage spent here will go mostly ignored. For those of you that havn't figured out EA/Bio's game plan I will tell ya. The LONG haul.. Ea/Bio will just remain at this pace and direction.it will keep it going until it is no longer feasible to run servers. All the while hoping they will hit something that keeps new subs coming in and old ones staying but I know they wont reverse things they have changed. They never have before and i really believe they just ignore the out cries from bad decisions that they make. Why do I say this because there has never been any indication that they even recognize mistakes or try to rectify them quickly in all the time I've played this game. I have been here since beta and things that were obviously wrong are still in the game 4+ months later ( I wasnt here the whole 4 months unsubbed for over 6 weeks, returned to see the changes. Not much changed) Those of you saying to reverse 1.2 .Forget it, WON'T happen. Bio's speed , attention to detail and listening to it's consumers has been like this since beta but it is set at a pace and indifference that never goes well with an MMO but Ea/Bio wont change the way they handle this game or it's customers. The fixes are slow to come , new content is even slower and the amount of mistakes are near amateur. Apparently the loss column hasn't exceeded the gains ...YET.

Queing for a War Zone and getting booted to the character select screen. When will it end ??

Its finally our turn . Sit back and enjoy the ride. I had to since launch BTW, next month another class will get it's turn. This isnt your first MMO ... is it !!

The worst game I've ever played . Comon say it, it has to be SWtor. 4 months in and every patch gets worse, problems never get solved and the game does NOT improve. I did beta , early release, quit 2 and a half months in from sheer frustration , came back after 6 weeks to find nothing has improved , that most servers are thinned out until near ghost town and 1.2 has made PvP unbearable. Only one aspect of this game makes me want to say I played it and that is it is by far the most mishandeled game I've ever participated in. The only stellar portion of this organization is the forum mods that will surely delete or remove this thread in record time and give me an infraction for my comments. Disney does not have better or more diligent censors than Bioware

Already there is a population problem on many servers with very long queue times for WZ's. If you want people to quit Swtor altogether just say so.