The bugs they keep adding to known bug list....

LI Patrol BOTS come to mind . )

We do the exact same thing in my guild with pugs , our only set back is HM and NIM ,I'm not talking about EV KP or even EC HM , I 'm talking about NIM EC and HM TFB ,,, we are a small guild growing , with a lack of tanks on at the right time for HM TFB or NIM EC ... .. so the rest I know a few of you can relate to as far as OPs go , we run back to back weeklies in SM run all of them in ops in one day most of the time and save a few ats for later in week in the Second boss and I even run my tank all the way up to the last boss in in SMEV and KP then drop group on him, ( I have two accounts ) while I'm healing to help those out who can't be on when we run on our mains for the weeklies ...I hope BW doesn't nerf that's. that's a nice way of getting thing done in guild for those who can't make the the reg raid times or can't run full runs and may be only have time for that one boss quick comms run and BTW I know others in game so I have made up to HMTFB last boss and Kephess NIM EC so I know the fights that far and to me its not a big deal if I kill them in HM or NIM I will one day but till then I'm gonna have fun doing what can etc c ,,, Point is don't NERF how LFG work to me its working as intended and others just need to learn how to use it to suit them and not ask DEV to waste time on some thing that working fine, other then to make improvements to it ... IMO )) Or even offer more BHs for doing a full run,make it worth while in some way but don't nerf it so it makes others run it that don't want to , offer more,improve it,don't force others to do something they wont do anyway .. if they force us to run full runs LFG will prolly be less used other then SMEV/KP ,to me right now its working just fine for HMFP runs .. Marry XMass all

you miss the whole point of what he's saying If you run it thu a GF then we are suppose to do it because we joined thy GF , that's whey there are guilds I thought , thing called friends and planning for it ,, no your being selfish and can't expect pugs who run thu GF to do it,when there are much better ways of doing it and using the GF tool in better ways by getting a few friends or guild runs or plan it , would we waste our time on something that would normally take 20 mins that can turn into a hour and if you don't have the time ,, then were is he or anyone being selfish, as you call it because he doesn't have time , in most cases he or she only runs that one HM FP a day and wants to get more in game stuff done .... SO IMO its not selfish not doing it but it is selfish making that player run something he maybe cant or would but doesn't have the time to ,, that's why you make friends , join a guild or watch chat for those who are willing to do it , or even make your own group, And Q up and don't expect players thy a GF pug to run it how you want to, that's our whole point , there is other ways around it , then nerfing the LFG thy GF, so a few players can run the whole thing in a GF PUG , make those 50s run it that can't ,even if they wanted to , if thats being selfish then I'm a very selfish player, when it comes to GF and LFG PuGs ....

MY main is Sorc to and YEA that happen a few times on my Tank in HM SM EV etc ,,, or the sorc doesn't heal at all and asked what that is , you just say hm and leave at that point .. Good one LAMO and so true ... I love that aoe so much I try to have it down as much as poss .. all ways on CD unless I need it for some fights were a lot will happen DMG wise and its needed more at that point in the fight ..,

AGREE Fully what's worse is the healer that wants to play tank because he or she is carrying the rest of the group , then it gets to be fun hitting enrage timers etc due to the lack of dps > ( .. I know I'm a healer and dam GOOD one I feel you on this ... LMAO good post made my day ... oyea forgot in a raid how they blame us if we wipe countless times due to the hitting the enrages timer's that's our fault to ... I did TFB SM to day , worse pug I ever did , we wiped two times at the second Boss because ether the Noobs who never did would not say anything or the DPS was that bad , SMTFB no less and the two healers and two tanks were the last to die both tries , I had to go so I couldn't get in a third try ...

Guess he doesn't know that owell , you can skip a lot of thrash but to follow the story line to do it thu you have kill every boss but the bonus boss in kaon ..

AGREE ! this is very Selfish making me do something I don't want to do and you can bet if they don't want to do it they don't ... SO true most who play the game want to play, do as much as they can in game with what time they have ... ) this is just a very Selfish post, they can't expect me or any else to do every boss in every HM FP ... when in most cases we have done them count less times to the point there is no point in doing them ..

Sorry I got to add more you will not like me in BoI , I Do that run every time I run it in 12 mins or less and will leave the group if I'm forced to run it the long way unless BW changes how we skip stuff there, I will keep doing the 12 min run , if you happen to not like it you can ether leave or die at the bosses if I skip them or kick me , I've been told I'm one of the best healers on my server so GL kicking me if you do and finding a better replacement healer ... any way that said , I will do the bonus bosses if I know about it at first .. but I will also skip whatever I can, how ever I can, in what ever way I can ... I have run every bonus boss in every HM FP at least 4 times each and I'm so tried of run useless stuff that waste time , when I See posts like this its make me wonder is this your first MMO ? , any game I have played EQ 1 WOW RIFT and a few others at end content they skip what ever they can when they can ... SO this is no New game breaking Behavior its been going on for years in other games ... only reason it seems new here is because SW was a new game and now its full of tons of 50 s and most them would rather skip what they can, stand on the fleet etc and shot the BS ... and to me your the one being unfair if you think a geared out 50 that joined in thu LFG is gonna run it slow and when in most cases all he or she wants is the BH's at the end ... that said If your in my guild and asked to me to run it the long hard way I will but ii only offer that to follow guild members, most in my guild don't need it and don't want to waste time in a HM FP, when they have better things to do after they get the Daily HM done ... ....

been here Sense last beta invites , came from Wow , Was't gonna play till I was able to try it out in beta, blew me a way ... have sense stacked game time till July 2013 on two accounts to show how much I love the game...

12 min run , all most every BoI I get players would rather do it , some have No idea it was even POss .. .. I Would not votekick you for that , I vote kick the one holding us up , one time I got HMFP on my sorc never got above half force unless it was a Cut screen because of how fast the tank was pulling I loved every min of that .. he was at the time in full 61's ....

EQ1 all over again if that happens I remember those days IN EQ1 and really miss it sometimes them YELLING TRAIN TO ZONE WATCH OUT .... Fun times

I wish there was a fix for this , but every MMO I have ever played is the same , over time the FP.s or = depending on the game gets old and have no use other then for the daily's ... and not every one has the time or wants to gear up more then 3 50 's that I know and they had a hard time getting three to 50 ...

I have a question for you , Pay me to do it or give me a good reason to not skip anything , I don't want to be in a place that gives me nothing for a hour when I can do it in 20 mins and go get other things done ..... use my time more wisely .... also you need think on this, some of us have done just what you are complaining about , but after a while it gets really really old , I don't do the dailys anymore , unless it's for the weekly, I can make better creds standing around the fleet , selling my wares then out being bored worse then I would be on the fleet ... I guess my point Is I'm not being rude , but IF the Group is over geared and not your guildes your runin with . and if the pugs are high end geared players they are only there for one thing and that's the daily and how fast they can get it done ... what BW should DO is gear match like they are doing in PVP , that way it might fix what you want but till then most geared out players are not gonna stand around for a 1 hour when it can take them 20 mins and you really can 't force them to ... Most of them have done the kill all , mission all thing and really get to hate those places , as you will to ,,, over time .. : )) Is it fair to ignore players in the team that needs gear and steamroll through the flashpoint not listening at all? I would not say iqnoring you , but the gear you really need only drops off the last boss in most of the HM FP the rest is junk .. and if you want to gear up fast go run SM EV/KP you will gear up way faster there, then you will in any HMFP .. have a ton more Fun. )) IS it fair that you make a player run something he may have run 50 times all ready ? ..

I so Remember those days in wow to the point I would just let them die , and if they pushed it to hard id pull a boss then leave the group and really give them something to complain about ..... and then getting another tank might take them 20 or more mins it was no lose to me I could reQ and get it done with no stress . )))

this reminds me of how hard it was to tank on a warrior at the start of wow , I never gave up on my warrior , I lived thu it all on him .. got to be a dam good tank in WOW on my warrior ... I had a pally tank, DK tank , but my warrior was it for me and I just started learning how to tank on a warrior in Swtor , its a ton of fun ...

NO enough tanks on at the time of raiding is whats holding us back , we have the DPS and healers , its shows when our two tanks can log in and run with us ,, we kill stuff . ..

And that was EQ 1 if I'm not mistaken ,that said MMO have come along way sense EQ 1 days ,,,, and they can't get much harder then Swtor is now and it is taking some a month to clear to last boss in HMTFB ,, I have no clue what kephess NIM IS like yet I'm stuck on the NIM tanks .. .. the players now a days are much more skilled at playing MMO then they were in the EQ 1 days etcc

As all the Above say if you all are hiting 10 % and 4 red pools it is diff a DPS issue .. some of our raids we get three red pools depending whos on in guild when we do it most of the time we get two if our really good DPS is on at the time of the raid .. we have also done it a few times and on one died at the end ..

but you can try this which doesn't work for me anymore sense last nite http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=509135&highlight=gamma IM hoping im installing the game to see if something went amiss and reinstall might fix it ...

Sadly you can't now it seems before last nights patch you could . at least before the patch I could edit the ini games setting file .. or at least for me any setting I do any place wont work to gamma now . it stays at one shade no matter how I do it edit the file go into windows mode and set my desktops gamma high it does not work at all now ...sense last nite ...

Sadly it looks like that no fun etc I don't do them now and prolly won't once it goes live other then to see if they are worth the time to do, most won't do them and some will love them most won't ...

You can RE it just not learn it ,so it is still worth the RE for the Stab you get if you RE it and sometimes you get two from that armor , so it is woth it to RE it to off set the cost of buying one or even making it ...

ty , man, I know that all ready and kinda said that .. In most cases its not clickable ... no Matter what way you kill him ... at that point you can ether die or run out to pull him out of shield ... what I want to know,does it seem to be getting worse ... ????

is it me or The HK Bug in the foundary lately is getting worse, no matter how you kill him , he will just bug , the shield will come down and it's not clickable and at that point all you can do is die or run out to pull him out of the shield ...