I've tried Ilum. I've given it a fair chance. Sucks. I wish I could say there has never been trade killing on my server, I really do, but it's just not true. The spams for groups to trade kill on the fleet and in Ilum, not to mention the sheer amount of BM's everywhere (Including repubs in warzones that logically didn't get it fairly). Feels like the laughs on you if you grinded valor without trade killing. Hacking is also horrible on my server, it's frustrating and unaccceptable. You want to see a fast mount... you should check out people in Ilum on my server! To go into a warzone and recognize people day to day that you know in your gut are using hacks sucks. Sure I could waste my time reporting them, but I know it won't help and it'll end up just as much of a waste of time as this post is. I really believe that the valor system has already become a complete joke. Bioware had the base elements to make it fantastic and they failed on simple mechanics. 120 Valor per kill in Ilum bad, quest items to do dailies stacked in the middle for the over populated side to constantly control and run around mindlessly in circles? Cmon Tempted to ask what server you play on, cause I'm on Hyperspace Cannon and it's really just not fun to PvP. Realistically though I won't be around long enough to wait for server transfers to happen or take the time to reroll a character on another server. I feel I've wasted enough time and energy in a game that is showing signs of laziness like the last two patches. I don't know if it's salvageable. I'm a good player and a good customer, and I'm out of reasons to log in and play. Not because I don't like PvP either, but because of the unfair elements I'm subjected to while I play. The hacking and the poor design of Ilum have given baddies the right to rule in PvP.

I'd like to see high level +Power color crystals of every basic color that artificers can craft for level 47. They're available on weapons that you can purchase, why not let artificers craft them easily as well.

I know nothing about BH Healing, do you have anything that can guarantee a crit like recklessness? Also you may want to buff your surge, it's probably as awful as mine was with the same amount of pieces of PvP gear. The stats originally on them do not help for achieving a high crit and getting the 5k medal. You can't use consumption easily like sorcerer which stinks but you may be able to attain it out of combat after you've taken damage. When trying in combat make sure to pop an adrenal and a relic to see if you can get a higher heal as well. I hope someone who knows a thing or two about BH's can step in and help more.

I have had sucess getting the 5k medal (ty for the constructive posts here)... the cheezy way and even a few random times in combat as well recently. First, I did try out the centurion crit/surge relic, +adrenal, +recklessness until I got my surge rating up more, I ended up replaceing a few enhancements to get my surge to around 200ish and then I started using my power relic, +recklessness and usually can get it with just those. I didn't realize just how gimped my surge actually was on top of the nerf, the only piece I had surge on was my champion helmet +48 that's it. I don't know why the sets have such little surge on them... I just assumed oh hey it's purple it's meant for my spec and it has expertise, it's gotta be better, but I was oh so wrong. That base surge is pretty important for attaining a larger crit.

So, how can we get an actual response to this issue?

My server is down atleast 100 on the fleet @ prime time. Edit: I've seen it cap @ 237, right this second it's @ 103

I have two one warzone win dailies @ lvl 50 valor rank 47 So.... should I not have them? Should you have them? A GM told my boyfriend who doesn't have any available two days ago that it was not a bug he had ever heard of and didn't clarify which was correct but he would look into it when he had more time. This isn't anything new... and some people flat out are not aware that they should/shouldn't (who knows!) have these dailies.

Me thinks... me thinks harder... I dunno I'll haveta see when it gets here.

How difficult could it be to actually give players the same dailies?

Yeah I bet you would Mr. I play a 31/31/31 spec and i win all the time. U mad??? No thanks until people like you are banned.

Although the difference from Champ to BM gear isn't substantial, I find that on my server trade killing and hacking go hand in hand. It's all about the mind set of the individual really, they're looking for EZ mode PvP (without any real PvP) and Bioware has chosen to feed it to them at this point. This statement made me feel better about Ilum when the changes were made. But now looking back, I simply don't feel Bioware is doing enough to prevent players who are gaining an unfair advantage from doing just that.

Agreed. There are many redeeming qualities about this game. I do not hate this game and I believe with a little more effort, it could be amazing and stand the test of time. I was totally with Bioware up until the last few patches, seems like fixing real issues has taken a back seat to the easy fix and the lets look like we're doing stuff/non game breaking fixes that no one asked for. Amongst all the trolling on these forums there are some very valuable suggestions on how to improve the current state of PvP, I hope Bioware's paying attention to them.

I don't hate it completely but alot of the issues below have tainted my feelings towards PvP in SWTOR. Ilum - Really? Trade killing or Nascar. No, thanks I'll pass on half of my possible PvP rewards. I don't feel people should reap such large rewards for not PvPing at all. It Should have been left it the way it was until a more permanent solution to world PvP could be achieved. Servers - There's not enough variety of people actively PvPing on my server. Can I put a large target over my head to make it only slightly easier for people who recognize my name to kill me? I realize if a team is smart they're going to want to kill me first but it's almost an automatic reaction with very little thought that people switch to me because hey, they know I'm a healer the second they see me. Bags - Frustrating. Hackers - There are alot of people I suspect of hacking on my server, I don't have 100% proof so I don't report them... Fix things, Ban them. Learn to protect the product you're providing. Bounty Hunters - Nuff said. Exploits - Abilities that are being exploited, fixing the basic mechanics of class abilities that are having an unintended result should be a top priority. Trade Killing - Disgusting, ruined the valor system. Healing - It's hard for me to heal... people who I know have trade killed, people who I'm pretty sure are actively hacking, someone who has smashed my face in the previous round. I do it still because that's my job in a warzone, but familiarity is breeding contempt. Stuns - Multiple times I've stood in the same spot and went from full health to dead with out being able to cast one ability. Not cool. Medals - Healers are getting the shaft. Raid Frames - People not showing up in my raid frames is making it extremely difficult to heal them. Try healing a huttball runner without them showing in raid frames, it's near impossible. /endrant

No items in the past two weeks... I figure I've opened around 20 bags.

Wait till you see the hack/exploit for the NEXT room. I've seen the datacore room bomb go off before the red door shields drop as well...

It's true, and it's deplorable that Bioware has already distanced themselves from providing us with information in regards to the actual intent of some PvP issues/changes, that and not even making a decent attempt to address the players concerns at all. PvP has become the black sheep of SWTOR... please.. don't look and certainly don't talk about it, because we ourselves have no idea what we're doing with it at this point. That's the message I'm getting.

Mostly agree with this, there is very little communication with the player base at this point. There are alot of people posting (in vain it feels) to help change the game and make it a more positive experience for everyone. I realize change doesn't happen over night, but a little forsight (what could happen if we allow x,y, and z) mixed with throwing us a bone from someone @ Bioware announcing well anything... would be cool. We're starving for information... and trying to hang on to the sinking ship that is PvP. Ilum, exploits, hacking, trade killing, medals... there are alot of issues and normally I'm not one of those entitled people, but I feel we all deserve something official on the state of PvP and where it's going.

Valor rank 46 and been lvl 50 for a while I get: Daily - Zero Tolerance Daily - Birds of a Feather Daily - March Them Down Boyfriend just gets: Daily - March Them Down Don't know why or if it's intended for everyone to have access to... Zero Tolerance and Birds of a Feather, it amounts to about 5,000 credits a couple of low level greens and very useful adrenals and med pacs missed by those who do not have them though.

A healer really shouldn't have to dps in order to get... less medals than everyone else still. There are only 4 medals a healer can even get by doing just healing. Two of which (2.5k heal & 75k healing) anyone with a heal ability could probably get pretty easily just healing themselves. The medal system atm is a big ol joke on healers.

Nice... Man I'd never heal yer arse.

There are a few weapons you can buy pre-50 with expertise. But really, it's not going to make much if any difference.

Edit: Hmmm wrong I am

I accidentally trolled my boyfriend into a grey unabandonable quest last night on the fleet, I'm like just holocall.... oops, sowwie! I really wish you could opt to not see grey quest givers.

For all those that kill traded to BM maybe... for those still struggling to get there it's a bigger deal.

I think alot have already left due to the joke of a Valor system. I do feel bad that the only real way Pubs can do anything in Ilum is kill trading. Still it's a flawed system, that's rewarding people who aren't PvPing. I'd reroll but.... man the pub gear just looks awful, that and I don't wanna throw rocks at people.