No, he gets slaughtered, what the ****.

100% correct

I mean I might only be back for a day, then have a two day break? Sounds weird I know, but I accidentally bought the 180 day recurring sub instead of the one month, and I had to get a refund. Not sure how long it'll take to get through, but I was going to wait on re-subbing until I was sure it had Either way, guess I best try get to the new standalone versus threads while I can....

Very nice work! Also hi. I'm back

Still haven't got over it

Y'all are just holding up the tournament at this point. Delays are acceptable, silence as to why isn't. At least give us a time frame. You have 48 hours.

Majorly creeped out tbh. That shade of blue, that avatar? I cannot un-see the words Rayla_Felana where Cs_Zoltan should be It appears you have a fanboy, Kulvax

*subtle bump* Have you agreed who's starting?

“Who will be the winners? Who will be the corpses? Audience, place your bets!” Team Jarons vs Team Karadron Starkiller, Cade Skywalker & IG-88 vs Darth Traya, Darth Nox, Darth Sion & Cipher Nine Welcome to Round 1B of the Runner's up Bracket. For anyone new to the tournament, please look over the rules first before participating, and those who are familiar, you may which to remind yourselves of how it all works. The Battleground: The Coruscant Republic Military Base Combatants start 25m apart in the airfield where Ahsoka was chased. Rules of the Debate Victory by killing, KO’ing or otherwise incapacitating all of the opposing team. Combatants cannot hide or flee, though tactical retreats or attempts to lure the opponent are permitted. Combatant morals and personality traits apply, however they are all ready and willing to kill their opponents. All combatants are equipped with their standard arms and armament. Combatants do not possess any prior knowledge of their opponents beyond what they already know. But they are aware of the names of their combatants which are announced immediately before the fight. Any and all external Force nexuses or amplifiers are for the purposes of debate non-existent. No flaming, trolling or aggressive debating, keep it chill people. So without further ado, let the battle begin!

Lol. /5char

Well if we're going for two separate rounds we don't really need Aurbere

You're putting way too much stock into a debatable and pretty unsound quote. Unless you're willing to put Revan above Krayt because he along with Caedus and Sidious is labelled "the most powerful Sith"? Hell, let's put Revan above Caedus because Darth Revan isn't even his strongest incarnation.

Not really seeing how this is relevant to a list about raw force power?

Nah, Witwer (who voiced Starkiller, who knew ) confirmed that storyline in an interview.

Y'know, this list would be so much easier if TFU III came out. Apparently Vader was going to utterly trounce Starkiller and his rebel faction once broken out, and end up beating him overall. He was likely supposed to be holding back in TFU II.... Shame it got canned

You could just have two 1v1's then a final, given we're down to 4. But I don't mind, either way.

Agreed. I personally think that's enough to put him below Vader and Starkiller, tbh. I'd put Revan in that list too if Aurbere's post ever showed up...

Interesting post to make when Beni answered all your questions 2 hours prior

Huh, interesting. Still, Yaddle > Windu, l2deal pls

Not in canon tbh, she tends to be dead by the time he gets his good accolades. @Beni: Every force user prolongs their life, unless they're corrupted by the Dark Side. Jedi have a far above average life span. Best example probably being Dooku, 80 odd with the body of a 40 year old, according to most sources. I guess it's just more obvious with Yoda since he'd usually live well into his 500's anyway.

Yaddle was 500 odd and going strong when she sacrificed herself, but then she was supposed to be every bit as powerful as Yoda, so that probably isn't a great person to compare him to

Well, it does that too, yeh. But you can find the scans on Nova's RT, I'd assume. And that's a completely different case, it's almost laughable. If you want to keep using that ridiculous analogy though, it's actually more similar to the following: - A Jedi can use force push - The Jedi is shown to use force pull - The Jedi is said to have ability to use telekinesis in general. Therefore he can use force grip. It's pretty simple, numerous quotes suggest that the gauntlets boost rage and force power. Trying to suggest they only can for 2 abilities requires proof that you frankly do not have. You keep telling me to prove more and more to change your stubborn opinions, so let's throw this back on you. Show us a single quote that says Kun's amulet is limited to Force Blasts.

Not really, since we know he uses it for Force Blasts and it doesn't glow then. The fact it glowed is kind of irrelevant. And where did I say Tutaminis? He fried numerous Jedi with Lightning, that's not Tutaminis That's not the point. I've already provided two instances of the amulet not being limited to Force Blasts. Your counter to that is saying "fine, it's limited to Force Blasts, X and Y then. Prove the other stuff used it too." Which is flawed logic, for numerous reasons.

So you're asking me to prove the amulet isn't limited. That's a solid debating tactic there beni, asking someone to prove a negative. Hella impressive. Still, since I've shown it using another use, that's already done! You need to prove the Amulet is limited only to force blasts, because nothing actually says that. Sure, there are quotes that say it allows him to use Force Blasts, but it doesn't stop there. Numerous other quotes show it being used for different things, and every time you come across one of those you can add it to your little list, telling me to find more, but I doubt you're convincing anyone. And while I appreciate your argument regarding Kresh's gauntlet (amazing stretch, even for you, I was impressed.) since Haazen used it to eviscerate numerous Jedi at the same time with a blast of Lightning, you're wrong. Plain and simple.

The two separate descriptions of the amulet, you mean? One being that it massively amplifies his rage, and focuses it, one that it can focus rage into powerful force blasts? You decide they both refer to force blasts only, I take them to mean what they actually say they mean. Not to mention what actually lines up with the rest of continuity. Then again, I'm not sure I actually need to defend myself here, the amount of times your knowledge of Kun has "lapsed" in this thread is disappointing. Saying he "deflected starfighter attacks without a gesture"? You're even choosing to ignore sources people have brought up numerous times already. You want proof that Kun's amulet amps him beyond force blasts? How about the source Zoltan posted 14 pages ago? "The light from the ancient talisman expands...and then joins into one brightness, enveloping the two warriors in mysterious energies..."