bout time we got some love, armorcrafting has been gimp since day one.

so all that money i find laying around on the ground in world is a loss? people really need to get off of fleet once and a while.

you do realize that the orange weapons/armor are needed to use the augments right? my guildmates that are armstech were making millions before the patch, and they got some love armor on the other hand was a non starter due to quantity of gear and materials needed, people would not pay 150k for each piece of a 6 piece set, but they will pay 300 for a new gun that is better... i think people are over-reacting a bit, and yes, slicing is one of the professions needed now, luckily i have a 400 slicer on an alt. you should be able to make money off both augments and guns

well hmm, i logged in after patching, and within 20 min had 3 crit crafted low level orange chests... there is NO difference between a level 11 crit craft orange heavy armor and a level 49. If people do not have the orange schem's already then i am sorry, but i have like 15 heavy and 12 light orange schematics, i can make chest legs head and hands (still no boots) i also now have a purple tank augment that will sell well as well all in all i am completely happy with the crafting changes, armormech which was arguably the worst crafting class in game is now viable and profitable. I am sorry that others had such high expectations, from reading the patch notes and info from dev's i got exactly what i expected. but i did not make assumptions like a lot of people. +1 to 1.2 from me

a bit snarky isnt it? it was an error being fixed, error's being negative not positive. now if you had given them 6 months free rather than the 3 days they already lost for their trouble, then you would probably get more thank you's

have not logged in yet, but my old dps had the decimal in the wrong place, if i had 600dps it said 60000 ... basically there was no decimal so everything looked 100 times more than it should. so was it a display bug fix?

I went and reread my post, and in the end it was the conclusion of all my other posts... i just did not really feel like writing all the explinations. but let me put things other ways speaking to this reply. I will start with this, pvp in this game is rather bad for my play style, for what i find fun... it is compartmentalized and instanced... the only real value is bragging rights. It leads to elitistism with no substance. I prefer world pvp, where you fight other people over resources, or spawn, or just location... to go into the same map over and over and fight for the same checkpoints over and over with no actual benefit whether you win or lose is just pathetic game design. I might as well buy a FPS as it will be more balanced and have more maps. you hear in pvp movement is king. If you can still dps while moving then i agree 100%... arsenal dps is pathetic when moving, you have a few instants that are part of your stationary rotation so yes if you decide to move you probably have 1 or two available, but dps is bad. The concept of kiting from UO, AO, EQ, WOW, SWG, and most any other mainstream MMO is running them around giggling while you "whittle" them down. It really isnt possible with a "turret class". Am I saying never move? no, you need to pay attention to where you stand and their access to you. because there are only 3 small instances where 90% of the pvp happens you can set up "scenarios" like standing next to the blow vents in huttball, or standing on the different levels (but many will just leap to you anyway, but better than nothing). I often drop off the platforms and get under them to LOS on them, but lets look at it in reality, you are avoiding them and not really dpsing them.. Yes i move, that is not kiting, drop down get under the bridge and start casting a stationary attack while they drop down and close.. they get to you before the cast is full and you are toe to toe again. That is not kiting I often run when i see dps cooldowns, i am not out dpsing them, but i will avoide the bulk of their dps if i can. throw a knockback and try to play keepaway for 15 seconds. Best way to do that is to be out of LOS, so you are not dpsing either. Is that kiting? more like running, but once those dps cooldowns are over I plant and kill. I watch pyro's run around dotting a lot of people and scampering away, but i dont see a lot of people dying from it, they just get big numbers on the "big board" at the end and feel like they did good. pfft in a 1v1 fight 90% of an arsenals damage is going to be done while standing still. I do spend a lot of time in game, and I do like to debate on the boards, but dont blame them for my social skills, i never had them, i am to bluntly honest... i hate PC and I dont generally care. If you had read around a bit through some pvp threads you could have seen how other people are doing it, you could have researched, there are plenty of conversations about it. So you wanted the "quick and easy" so I gave you the "quick and easy" answer... i have posted how I pvp a number of times on a number of threads. you just wanted me to type it all out again for you i guess. fyi i am not the best pvper in game, i am also not a TM spammer, as pvp sucks in this game i primarily HM/NM raid and try to make a buck on the market, but I do pvp on my 50 sorc more than my BH because our mobility is SO bad and because Sorc has SO many more tools. ps. if you use concussion and they do not break it you have 8 seconds to heal/heal/exdart/tm/hsm/unload/rail but you wanted to move rather than stand and fight... fyi i kill a lot of people with that move because they use their "break CC" on either edart or the slow from unload. but hey, we should all just run around kiting because that is what ranged has to do right? so i changed my sig, went to a pyro complaint thread where even the "mobile" build is frustrated with how lame kiting is in this game.

this is the real problem, when ranged have no kiting tools melee will dominate. Hearing a PYRO say this brings it all home for me. Someone was arguing with me that you have to kite even as an arsenal... if the "mobile dps" version of us is saying this, there is a problem.

ohhhh you used the word pedantic *scared* that dead kiting in pvp is stupid for an arsenal... by kiting i am speaking of trying to dps your opponent while keeping them from dpsing you. That dead spot is (as previously spoken to) 4<deadzone<10 meters... you cannot maintain this dead spot, we do not have any mobility boosts, our knockback sends them far enough away to close on us, we lose a majority of our dps when moving. i completely disagree with you. I find pvp in this game pathetic either way, though pure pre-made pvp in rated's may make the pvp something close to tolerable in this game. if you are 1v1 in this game burn them down or die if you are arsenal. there are exceptions to everything, if a marauder kicks in his damage boosts you should run (not kite, just get the *** away) until it is gone. by kiting a melee you reduce your effectiveness more than you reduce theirs because you really cant get out of their range for any appreciable amount of time. with legacy, a jet speed run or some such kiting may become more viable. In most other games ranged have escapes, in this game most ranged except for merc have escapes... its like trying to run from a lighning ball in SOE HM, once it is in range, it is in range... no point in running it just means you die tired. its my opinion and it isnt going anywhere.

i missed your correct post amongst the misinformation it was a sincere apology

and you will be LOS before the first tracer hits, and then the qq will start here, and then i will say... i told you so.

they never overheat. it isnt that healing is OP, it is that heat management is a joke if you know what you are doing...

firstly almost every class has a closer, so it is close to impossible in this game to kite someone out of their dps range. so lets take a look at what strafing can do for you. every time you are in motion a few things happen as an arsenal. 1) you have no ability to heal 2) your dps is dropped by 80% - yes we have rail shot, hsm, and you can insta cast a fusion or throw an explosive dart... all of these things when looked at over lets say 15 to 20 seconds is still significantly less dps than standing still and oh by the way you need to refresh your debuffs every 15 seconds with a TM or you just failed, once you blow your cooldowns on the mobiles you are spamming rapid shot. You are better off waiting for the next knockback. so lets look at your opponents. melee - they have snares, roots and closers, rarely can i run at >4m range... strafing = pwned... trying to keep over 4 and under 10 meters is just impossible vs a decent player... and if you CAN do that you probably didnt need to run in the first place ranged - now you need to be >30 M away and then a snare/root/stun and they close and hit you while you run away again = pwned the only situation where I see straffing being viable is if you are waiting for support. i cannot think of one situation where strafing as arsenal would decrease their ability to kill you more than you decrease your ability to kill them the best thing to do is 1) DONT PANIC 2) maximize your dps while minimizing damage taken 3) pray for the best running just makes you die tired.

even a arsenal merc does not know the meaning of spamming? *sigh*

people may learn the definition of spamming, that is the most i can expect.

i agree with slight differences accuacy should be aat least 105, 110 is ideal for pve crit spot on 35% surge (since the surge nerf) i would say 70-75%

the 1.2 patch brings minimum 6 seconds between railshot procs, sadly this will take away some of their burst but yes pyro powertech can dps well, better than merc pyro tbh

kiting has nothing to do with class, everyone should know how to kite for pve, in pvp arsenal does not kite, he either fights or he runs.

if you have 31 in arsenal and you are kiting, you failed the test... please retake it asap and if you are kiting on the next test you will fail again fyi

you cannot consider using an attack with 2 cooldowns part of a rotation imo advanced play is not a part of rotation conversations, neither was AOE really, but meh whatev if you dont have HSM it is easy to just not cast it, the rotation is the same, just less dps (and less heat used)

my bad, missed it in all the misinformaton *bows apologetically*

nobody actually posted the ideal rotation. TM/TM/TM/Unload/HSM/TM/TM/Rail this is the opener, this rotation will allow you to max dps forever. after you finish this rotation use HSM or rail whenever they are up... rail shot should be free with rakata 4 piece bonus fyi if you need to burst, throw in an insta fusion or explosive dart the above rotation keeps you under 40 heat assuming your crit is at least 30 and you have 4 piece rakata (or columi or tinoneese) anything else on a raid boss is FAIL any time heat is over 40 sprinkle in a rapid shots this is a pve conversation so if you throw "but in pvp" at me then go away pvp in this game sucks (pve isnt a lot better either tbh) 1.2 better be a miracle.

missiles are arsenal, not pyro, pyro is fire, hence pyro... missle blast love belongs in the arsenal tree nuff said.

i run about 40/60 vs marauders... they are one of the hardest for sure... arsenal is not as bad as all the pyro fanboi's say, it definitely does more single target damage than pyro. The secrets are 1) stand your ground. use your knockbacks, use your edart, interrupt anything they have to chanel/cast with these 2) watch their resolve bar never let it fill up because secret number 4 will need him to not have a full resolve bar 3) make sure to get 5 stacks it makes you do more damage, it makes you take less damage, it gives you the railshot bonus as well 4) use an "intsta concussion" when below 30% you should be able to get him down to at least 50% by the time you are at 30, at that point take the 8 second stun and put it on him, heal twice and then TM/HSM/Unload/rail ... he will die or be close enough that he is using cooldowns not damaging you ... you are at 60% health at least this works about 40% of the time vs equally geared Maurauders in the end do not fret when you get the 4 seconds of no TM, use unload/hsm/rail/rapidshots... unload alone will take up most of that time. dont forget to kolto yourself when needed, and explosive dart has its moments in there once you move you are dead, you cannot dps while moving, any arsenal kiting is not too bright unless he is waiting for friends... in a solo fight you stand your ground, better to burn out than to fade away. this of course is straight toe to toe.. if you can get an advantage any other way (standing near the blow vents in huttball for a quick "getaway" for example) then sure do it... trying to kite though? BAD IDEA... he is at least as fast as you, if you are in range you will stay in range, he can still do almost max dps and you can do 30% of your dps... bad equation.

i leveled like a rocket, mako the entire way, make sure her pew pew's are as good as yours and you will be fine. first in guild to 50, and i did it before the new year, so yeah, it was quick.