Yeah I'd go for compensation in Cartel Coins if I were anyone. That'll some day legitimately increase your enjoyment of the game. Extending subscription 2-3 days is just more drops in the same bucket, can't really get excited about that.

...and flashing lights, maybe super-bright headlights too

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This should be perfectly possible... vehicles are the best example of another use for dye modules. Vehicles could have decorative stripes or patterns that only become noticeable if a dye module is applied. The seats, fins, front end, lots of parts of a vehicle could have a changeable color. Weapons are other example... to be able to change the color of a blaster rifle's stock, barrel, ammo cartridge, scope, ...maybe not each individually but then again that's not a bad idea. A pistol could be made to have a plain black or gray color, or a bright color like lime green or hot pink.

You made my point more clear... that you're talking about tools, not safeguards: . tools require the GTN buyer to participate by choosing to go make a separate effort to use the tool in order to get the needed purchase protection . a safeguard actively guards the money of the buyer that could be spent as they click through the GTN interface... guarding their money from ANY type of major mistake or accident that can happen, whether it be the result of accidentally clicking the wrong "Buy" button at the last moment or having gotten confused or hurried or intentionally deceived and misunderstood the price of the item they clicked on You agree that buyers need protection because you point them to ways in the GTN tools that could be used to prevent bad purchase accidents. But you don't want to allow an actual GTN feature that would provide good buyer protection. What you're suggesting is a double-standard ... you don't want to allow automated always-on buyer protection mechanisms, because it slows down your GTN usage with a popup... yet when it comes time to declare what mechanisms will protect GTN buyers from purchase accidents that keep happening, you point them to the non-automatic tools that require more slowing down of the GTN buying experience than anything. It's perfectly understandable to not want popups, but it's not a good enough argument against protecting other players from terrible GTN accidents. The angle of your argument is moot for two reasons: . the purchase alert popup I'm suggesting would only show when the item being purchased costs 1M+ credits, not for EVERY purchase (the price threshold of 1M credits could perhaps be user-adjustable in the Settings) . we're talking about buyer protection ... if bad GTN accidents are still happening, then THAT's the sure indicator that the current buyer protection is inadequate... no more supporting argument is needed other than the fact that bad buyer mistakes are still happening And just to make sure to prevent a resurfacing of another typical argument in favor of not improving the GTN buyer protection: . . . . . The current purchase alert dialog is insufficient, for two reasons... it can be switched off entirely, and it doesn't have any enhanced stage of Alert in the case of extremely expensive items (1M+ credits or even 10M+ credits). The bigger the price of a GTN item, the more dramatic of an Alert that should be presented. That's the mechanics of an effective buyer protection feature.

It's a percentage of a Credit-Per-Unit, not percentage of a credit. And it does have significance. Only using whole numbers would obfuscate which listing on the GTN is selling materials for technically cheaper than the others, which isn't such a great side effect. When looking at the listing of price-per-unit costs, the percentage of a credit makes a difference for large stacks of materials, especially now that stack sizes are up to 9,999 units ... which means that 1/10th of a Credit-Per-Unit makes a different of 1000 credits. Why pay 1000 credits more than you wanted to for a stack of materials? And actually truncating the decimal points would hide up to 0.999 Credits-Per-Unit from the cost of the item, which for a full stack could result in the purchase of an item that was 10,000 credits more for the full stack than another listing that showed the exact same Credits-Per-Unit. I don't know about you, but I work hard for my credits, they don't just grow on trees. I don't want to ever be throwing away 10,000 credits on a not-cheapest stack of materials for no other reason than someone wanted to hide the decimal points in the Credits-Per-Unit column for no good reason. Only using whole numbers in the GTN listings would create an all-new (low-level) GTN scam, that savvy sellers would ALWAYS list their items for 1 credit less than they were going to, so that the effective Credits-Per-Unit of their listing would end up with a decimal point close to *.999 so that the true cost of their GTN listing was partially hidden. This is exactly what gas stations all started doing a long time ago, that the cost per gallon always has an added 9/10th of a cent so that on the listing people see as they drive past looking for a place to buy gas, they might mistake it for a penny less per gallon than the competitors. Of course once ALL gas stations were doing it, it makes no difference whatsoever ... but the ridiculous scammish nature of it is still there for everyone to see.

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That these types of scams CAN be avoided means absolutely nothing. It's only about needing automated tools that can't be switched off, that ALWAYS activate in the situations that would be devastating if the purchase qualifies as in ANY way an accident for the buyer. Something very simple such as a popup for any purchase for 1M+ credits with a 5-second delay on the "OK" button would almost certainly suffice - because in the case of a deviously priced item that's 1000 times more expensive than it's meant to be mistaken for, the visually discernible price (the mistaken price that the scammer MEANT it to be mistaken for) is almost certainly less than 1M credits, so a price-level popup alert would be the immediate alert to the buyer that something is outside of the perceived expectations. It would be negligent to not add something to the GTN of this sort, to defeat these types of scams that are obviously still going on. A lot of us pay to play this game, and also go to a lot of effort to earn credits to make the game more rewarding and in-game luxurious for ourselves, and so we deserve to be protected against both scams and innocent buying mistakes. The responsibility for preventing horrific buying mistakes needs to be put ALL on the game features. Otherwise these bad mistakes will just occur over and over and making select individuals miserable from not being protected.

Of course you're exactly wrong. With my suggestion in place, it wouldn't be surprising if no one makes a purchase error for 250K+ credits ever again, for however many years the game remains active. That's how high quality of a solution it is. You're not the first to pretend that the world can keep producing better idiots. It's similar to pretending the world will always supply better bank robbers. In fact, if a bank's security is continually improved to be more elaborate (and correspondingly more expensive), then sooner or later no one alive is capable of robbing that bank (no matter how hard they try at it).

Like I said, the GTN scammers are using a trick, of how exactly to price their item, to maximize the probability that someone will accidentally buy their egregiously overpriced item even though they'd NEVER purchase the item if they were truly aware of the price tag. THAT's the deception, the seller strategically choosing a price to provoke the purchase error... thus it is in fact a scam. I'm not going to describe to you what the exact trick is, nor should I. Contego De Malo. But I'll repeat yet again, it's irrelevant whether there really are any scams... because even if these purchase errors aren't the result of scams, players still have to be granted a higher quality Purchase Confirmation to prevent those very costly purchase errors. So your argument about scam-or-no-scam is a waste of thread space at best.

Would you agree that it'll keep happening in the future, that careless GTN buyers will make purchase errors and lose millions of credits at a time on items that are worth hundreds of times less than their listed price?

You missed the point. How about we start with "it's the right thing to do" and see what sense you can make of that concept...

I knew it! . It was nonsense GTN users losing MILLIONS of credits is not just a figment of the imagination... it's truly monstrous. IT MATTERS NOT what the root cause of each individual purchase error is... all that matters is that the purchase errors are still happening and it becomes obvious that the Purchase Confirmation is inadequate and needs to be redesigned.

How about the ability to switch off the redesigned Purchase Confirmation Dialog will be a Legacy unlock that requires the maximum Legacy level, and costs 15M credits to unlock? Do you see my point or will I have to explain it to you? . . .

The answer is, of course, that: . it's the right thing to do, even though it's only a small portion of the player population . the consequence of NOT doing so is that that small group of people, if they still choose to venture into the unprotected venue, might meet with a very catastrophic fate as a result of there being no guidance/protection mechanism . not doing so would leave the management of the venue with a sense that it's inadequate, because it's obvious that it's the needed change . Let's compare the two things, side by side: . GTN buyers buying items that cost 250K+ have to wait 3 seconds before being able to click 'OK' to finalize their purchase GTN buyers who aren't yet familiarized with how easy a mistake can happen on the GTN... end up time and again losing MILLIONS of credits (but not the same person twice) on the GTN on egregiously overpriced items because they didn't realize the price tag was so high . NO MATTER WHAT the actual reason(s) any particular purchase error occurred, the fact of the matter is that the Purchase Confirmation is the last step of the purchase process, and the entire purpose of the Purchase Confirmation is, by definition, to prevent mistaken purchases, and so the Purchase Confirmation failed to do its job in these cases. So it's a no-brainer that the Purchase Confirmation should be enhanced. NO MATTER WHAT the reasons are for the purchase errors.

I, literally, have no idea what you even said just there. It looks like nonsense. I'll just figure that it's nonsense. I've seen people spout nonsense before. It seems like you didn't read the suggestion carefully. The number of Purchase Confirmation Dialogs will not change. And it's a change of logistics, not a functionality change. The dialog will essentially look identical to how it looked before, except for the brightly colored text to get the buyer's attention when it's important to do so.

Very excellent points, I'm not actually sure if you realize it, that you stated the main reason that part of my suggested enhancement to the Purchase Confirmation Dialog is to have the dialog pop up in any scenario where the purchase is going to cost the player 250K+ credits. As well as the reason that there'd be a delay of 3 seconds before the 'OK' button is enabled. And then the bright price-level-coded text for the price is to ensure the buyer, during that 3 second delay, is guaranteed to notice the more expensive items before being able to click 'OK' to perform the unretractable finalization of their purchase. With those 3 points covered, it should be nearly impossible for a player to accidentally purchase any item over 250K credits, and all GTN buyers will be able to relax when making purchases. There are additional changes that could be made to the GTN display that would prevent clicks on items that would qualify as an accidental purchase if finalized. The decimals could be removed from the Credits-Per-Unit column to drastically improve its readability, and the "red" coding of unaffordable items could be removed so the color coding of prices in the listing could instead represent the price level. Also, the "Max Price" in the search dialog could be given a tiny LOCK button next to it, to allow the user to lock in that Max Price for all future searches. Any of those options would certainly be helpful, however they all pale in comparison to my suggested Purchase Confirmation upgrade which just on its own would stop any major GTN purchase mistakes.

Looking back at all of your recent posts, I'm not sure if even a single one can be called "intelligent". Is the word being used as a type of sarcasm or is it being used literally? .

Switch on the enhanced Purchase Confirmation Dialog, the purchase errors stop. Switch it back off, the purchase errors start up again. I'd like to think people aren't so bad at math and predictability analysis. .

You're forgetting the part where the seller isn't just putting an enormous price tag... they're specifically choosing the price so there's a maximum likelihood for it to be accidentally bought while the buyer is clicking through the listings. Which is a very overt deceptive practice, thus it's most definitely a scam. There are multiple indicators that what I'm saying is true. Don't bother refuting this post... even if there weren't any actual scams, the problem still needs to be fixed. No one's debating whether GTN purchase errors are happening and innocent players are losing millions of credits as a result. That's all that we need to confirm in order to know that a fix is needed.

That, or implement my suggested fix and no one has to ever worry about it, ever again. . Such a high quality fix, it's a no-brainer. Rather interesting that so many people are having trouble weighing a tiny 3-second delay (for expensive purchases only) against innocent players' catastrophic loss of MILLIONS of credits apiece because of predatory sales practices on the GTN. We should hold a raffle to guess how many of you ARE the GTN scammers that we're talking about.

You said absolutely nothing of import, and I see no valid points in your wall of text. Your quote here, however, displays the fundamental failure of you and all the other people ranting in this thread pretending a fix isn't a good idea. You think it's a good idea to let all the new players learn to use the GTN safely just like others had to. But that just reveals that it was also a necessity to have a better quality Purchase Confirmation Dialog back when you were all new players ... Even in your hatred it just reveals the truth of the situation ... you can't change facts and you can't say anything that will dismiss the need for a fix to the problem.

Your reading comprehension is rather low ... Just look at the following sentence from his post, and explain to everyone what you think it means. And then do the math of how you end up sounding like you know what you're talking about, when in fact you're entirely wrong. ... if he's saying it's IMPOSSIBLE to tell, then it's impossible for him to be saying that it's not a scam. Does this confuse you? Given that he said right away in the 2nd sentence of his post "we definitely don't want to see any players scammed out of their hard earned credits"... how much more favorable to my suggested fix do you think his post could be? They can't say there are definitely scams going on, because they have to be conservative enough in their investigative process that they don't make any mistaken determinations. But this is just a side topic, since it actually matters for nothing whether any particular GTN purchase mistakes are the result of scams. Purchase mistakes need to be prevented in ALL cases not just when it could be a scam. . (Full response from community manager):

The input from the Community Manager himself (see below) said nothing about there being no scams, although an entire mess of people tried immediately to interpret it that way. All that was said is that they can't make an absolutely definite determination of whether there are scams. Because of the consequences of taking action on a mistaken determination, as protectors of the community they aren't willing to take the chance that they'll treat any of the GTN sales as a scam when there's even the slightest chance of being wrong. From the Community Manager: The truth is that there are very obviously pricing scams going on. Sellers started regularly pricing items worth very little for prices that are extremely high, and if you look closely you can see where the exact prices they keep choosing are intended to get them accidentally purchased by unsuspecting GTN shoppers (exact details NOT forthcoming). It matters not that the dev team is unwilling to declare whether or not there are actual scams going on, particularly because there are some good reasons why it's always in their best interest to say "we're not certain". All that matters is whether they genuinely intend to find a solution for this problem: And I would simply state that there are some very obvious and very simple ways to reduce the number of accidental GTN purchases. My solution presented here is the most effective solution possible while remaining reasonable, however there are plenty of other possibilities.

You're only choosing to ignore the fact of the situation, that the people who end up losing millions of credits on the transactions, are not people who have made that particular mistake before. Essentially you're okay with the NEW community of MMO players being fed into a type of meat grinder where the potential for buyer error is far higher than can be said to be reasonable. And if the situation... that most of these mistakes are dumping ill-gotten wealth into the gaming accounts of the fiends who are perpetrating the scam... doesn't upset you, then there's something seriously wrong with you and you're not fit to take a leadership role in the gaming community in even the smallest way. In other words, if your attitude towards this issue really is what it seems to be, then your contribution towards this thread and towards this entire type of issue becomes of very low value to the community as a whole.