/Sigh... Guy Fawkes was a douchenozzle, and if it wasn't for Alan Moore he would be a vague footnote instead of the progressive myth he currently is. And actually Robert Catesby was the "mastermind" behind the idiocy of 1605

It's funny that you can make a negative thread on the GD, and get variations of the same snarky comments from the same six or seven posters, regardless of what time you post. Same as it ever was.

Guys....Guys, The "it's dead" /"no it isn't" angst has been going on since launch. At this point not too many actually care, I'm going to play until the servers sunset, I just don't see it happening in the next few years though and that is all the road I try to see down. There are folks who have been screeching it's dead but haven't missed a single months subscription (I know this because they post daily) and diametrically there are folks who would defend the game even if it became a Hentai Action RPG, neither side is going to change the others mind. I think Disney has as much to say as EA does on the future of the game, but as of now it makes enough to keep the lights on, screaming about what if's are not that productive.

Even though we disagree on the topic....you sir or madam are spot on with this observation. Why Indeed.

Wait...wining in a casino is easy...I'm just not allowed to visit them anymore because of reasons

I'm against a combat revamp, because 4 button rotations kill anything that is unique about your characters, and yes 31 abilities is a lot, but there is also four of five different types of rotations you can do, to me that opens up play style a lot. My Jedi has a very unique rotation that is competitive but doesn't use all the abilities...no where else have I gotten that kind of customization. Honestly if Bioware ever does an ability squish a large portion of the player base is going to riot.

I'm enjoying it...but I don't have that kind of free time to play through 3 or 4 times, I think the issues are more mechanics than the content itself, but YMMV.

So much for "Tortanic"

Yeah I'm not understanding this....I always have a stupid amount and I really don't do that much to earn compared to other MMO's Iv'e played. Of course I stopped trying to understand this community when I got death threat /tells just for riding a Cartel market speeder. We live in a age that glorifies everything communal. It kinda reminds me of that guy we all went to High School with that hated people just because they had cars while he rode the bus.

It's an omen of doom

This isn't going to be popular...but I sorta feel for the devs, they are doing this push/pull between MMO experts who dream in Excel, and die hard Star Wars fans that have this unyielding vision about what the IP should be. Iv'e seen this happen for eight years (beta tester) Swtor is my main mmo, because given the competition aside from Square Enix, Bioware are the ones who listen the most I think. Besides most of my e-friends are here, folks I use to have knock down drag out forum battles with are now good friends. I think it's all is a matter of perspective, and choice, personally I can't stomach WoW or ESO any longer and that's blasphemy to some folks.

Yep kill Bitraider check your internet connection....Iv'e never had a single issue with the launcher.

I don't doubt some folks are having issues, I was until I did a chipset patch for my MB, and updated my graphics driver to the current beta. Right now I'm running on max settings in 4K and I have around 50-55 fps depending on crowding. My PC is a beast though (Raedon 5700 XT , AMD Threadripper cpu 32 gigs of Ram ) so ymmv I think the devs will tweak it in the next couple of patches anyway.

I run it on slackware 14.2 with WINE/Lurtis currently and it rocks, I don't have a quarter of performance issues that most folks have.

Decent thread...and there are excellent points on both sides of the argument. I have been here since beta one, and I know this is how it will pan out. If it brings in more subs and more cartel market sales it will stay, if folks unsubscribe, or if it causes a rift in the customer base it will go faster than you can say Little Annie, that is just how EA works, and this to me is neither good or bad, because I have fun when content is tougher, and I have fun when it's the way it was before the tuning. Regardless Bioware will keep a close eye on this, because I feel they learned their lesson on alienating fans way back when they had the Raid Guild only summit. I really don't have a dog in this race regardless, as I said I'll be here no matter, but not everyone deals with change like I do.

Actually for the past few years the community in general has been chill for the most part, ever since the paste eaters screeching "Tortantic!!!" to the top of their lungs left, and it has never gotten as bad as the SWG nutters were.... (Those sociopathic douchenozzles would doxx and swat you at the drop of a hat) Just a couple days ago I was dropping into flashpoints and it was the most friendly folks I seen in a long time in any MMO.

The fixed the background music a couple years back....and that had been broken since beta......I wouldn't hold my breath.

Since they destroyed my beloved Ebon Hawk it has been Starforge and Republic....always Republic

I dunno I'm sorta torn....do I think gear is less relevant? Sure, but I'm also sick of chasing the gear Carrot on the treadmill of MMO's. Maybe that's why I have more fun in SWTOR than I do in other MMO's I play....YMMV though.

Thrawn Trilogy Hands down

Get ready for variations of 'How dare you like this game" But good post, I agree with many of your points......I really think they could do much more with the game and new publisher beside EA would go a long way to make that happen...I just think chances for it happening are unfortunately slim to none.

I'm in the minority I enjoyed Solo...not as much as Rouge One, but it was a fun summer movie. But anytime a SW movie or game or anything SW related is released I am reminded, that though I have been a SW fan since I saw the first movie as a kid the vast majority of Star Wars fans are in fact horrible toxic people. Heck just look at the people that have been paying 15 a month just to insult the living dog crap out of; this game,the developer, and anyone who has anything remotely positive to say about SWTOR.....it truly is laughable and slams home every negative stereotype you hear about gamers geeks and star wars fans. I mostly ignore it, hang with my small group of friends, turn off fleet chat so I can't hear the death and swat threats because I had the audacity to say I liked Finn as a Character, or that Poe reminded me a lot of Wedge. It's not going to change.....and if anyone thinks we will ever get any type of new SW MMO (Or any thing other than SW Pinballl) you're kidding yourselves and that has nothing to do with SWTOR killing the great Martyr SWG, or how terrible and scam ridden SWTOR supposedly is (which we are reminded of 12-15 hours a day 7 days a week by unhinged people that pay monthly just to tell us that) it will be because of what George Lucas himself said.. "Why should I make any more people are just going to yell at me and treat me like Sh** because I didn't write what they personally wanted Star Wars to be" Roger Waters of Pink Floyyd once said....."Our fans are usually pretty obsessed and terrible people...I don't think any of us would want to have a pint with them" And that is exactly where Star Wars is today. The usual suspects can save their "witty"retorts, or flame on as need be but deep down you know I'm right....we have met the enemy and he truly is us.

I'm pretty sure we are going to see some cool things from the movie especially in the way of mounts and pets...just have that feeling

Thank you you guys rock.

As much as some people would like....EA isn't losing anything, so the point is moot.