If you outlevel your ship missions, you get no xp or fair amounts of commendations and as you turn 50 if you make one mistake on purchases with your fleet tokens you can break the game where its unplayable.. I got a bug trying to id a item and accidently bought a 180 fleet token box that gave me some dumb piece of player armor. Now since i am 50, i cant get any xp or cash doing space missions, i can't finish the ones at my level because i need the blue gear with torpedoes and what not to complete them.. which i cant get... Outleveling space missions, means no tokens or 1 token per grey match, i can't do the orange or yellow, because i need the extended 50 gear that only is bought with tokens, again i made mistake accidently buying item that i didnt want with token and stupid interface There is one fix.. I can do 600 grey missions that take 20 minutes each to get my tokens, or choose not to play.. Since the game is outright a waste of time.. I have chosen not to play..

its not hutball its an imbalance of 2 things, people who don't play to win and gear. Play in the morning and at prime time, you see the difference. at primetime you have more idiots and more exploiters that geared themselves out that make for poor game play

playing a goalie is not an exploit.. its a game design feature... you can kill him by passing him the ball, yanking him, stunning him, etc....

NO SWEAT, but tons of tears and sodas

do explain the exploit?

In level 20 warzones, i averaged, 300k in damage per round With the same character champion geared level 50, I average 100k dps per round Why does this not make sense? I realize its all due to shield absorb and stuff (i guess thats not counted dmg), but shouldnt DPS be increasing? My build is DPS, and i rock anyone and do huge aoe dmg, but end of game its really wierd to see everyones numbers much lower than those in lower levels I would think perhaps the games are ending faster?? But in all reality, i think they are longer

You have to remember there is huge exploting going on now and why its a lot different.. People can get 10 ranks of valor in a day with the /stuck issue

This is kinda why they should implement, full pre-made queing.. Because this would should what a premade can do, and encourage others to play as a team.. Not to stray away from a team.. This is a team game, its a MMO, why are we encouraging solo play?!?!? makes no sense

I rolled republic, from what i see, they are so used to losing, they dont even care to play anymore... hence more losses... they seriously only log in to screw around and do that whole... comic book, im pwning you return.... wish i could explain it better, but I think you know what i mean.. that 9 year old with the "im bad" attitude.. hehe We are now seeing what PuG and Huttball clash is.. it simply can NOT work.. You cant have a strategic game, that doesnt reward proper play and have random careless people playing it... As i have been stating since launch, it does nothing but wastes most of the "teams" time

I leave, i know what it is.. In the early days, the good gamers were pvp'ing, the true gamers.. Now there are the mainstream gamers queing up more and more have reached level 50. have no care to play the game, or play to win.. They simply run for the first red dot and engage it and they wont change until that red dot is dead, or in most cases they are.. The competitiveness of the game is now lost.. The fabrication of why are we even playing this begins to question our minds.. We see it... there's 5 red guys scoring the ball, and there are only 1-2 guys trying to stop this onslaught, and bloop alt-f4 becaues this is just now a waste of time Hutball has become pointless. Hutball is probably the greatest thing ever, but due to the fact they reward losers, due to the fact that they give medals for things that dont contribute to even playing the match kill this game. This is why they MUST implement, guild win/loss record stats, individual stats and more.. se there becomes meaning to the games.. If they fail to do this and do so quickly.. its over.. This is nothing more than a single player fantasy quest game with a monthly fee.

never understood set armor... set armor seems to be the lazy coder way out of games these days.. what happened to collecting armor of different styles and shapes are trying to make a suit that looked good... running around with clown colors on when you were young... this stupid award loot is dumb and boring

I am still grinding, on a PvE server, its impossible to get valor out in Ilum, after 50,000 warzones, I am only at valor 56... With no 60 in sight in the next 2 months.. had enough... Game is boring now.. but I wwlcome the nerf. 2 reasons... Most exploited valor to get the gear, and now they win because of it... My skill that i noticed in the first few weeks of the game, is non existant, which might be why im bored. I am a fan of loot, but itemization in this game is poor.. and because of it, these sets are unfair.. One day when I am able to build sets, of differences with minute changes that can affect my style of play, skill, and whatnot, should be the advantages of the game.. Not simple, i has uber gear, i win.. Gear should all be offset +1 +2 +3 in different ways, not +500 expertise, insta win stats

PvP gear uses expertise, the stat on level 50 starter gear, compared to champion/battlemaster gear is currently too high and has a unfair advantage they want to address that so that skill plays more of a role, then a person who exploited their way to 60 valor, which is why everyone is really complaining, most of these dumb kids who exploited and greifing the **** out of the norm.... Hence an unbalance.... they will remove the expertise a bit and bring it more in line

I just came home to chill and do some crafting, but found myself massively bored... I rather sit here and click a button 500 times then this time based bottleneck bs..

They won't add pick your maps, because it will break their queue system and no one will queue this or that. They won't do much of anything.. Their system design sucks, they programming team sucks... They didnt even polish the small amount of crap they put together, and their game mechanics and engine are flawed.. Sadly there is little hope of anything, which is why you hear NOTHINg, you don't see UI fixes or anything, why you see teasers out there of **** that was already being worked on, just never finished because its broken and you may or may not ever see it. Until you see a development team say what they are doing, show you what is planned, discuss the state of the game, trust me aint nothing going on... In short, there's no miracle patch and PvP is on the bottom of their list Add to the fact, you see their "cliche" speeches of how the team is great at doing this, and why its slow at doing that... Is obviously a sign the game is showing a internal lack of care, so it probably has been abandoned by many employees already and they could be looking for patchers (employee fill ins) to this problem, but that just means your screwed for years to come, cuz no one can just walk in and fix things

Everything is just filled in like a cheap donut.... squirt this there, squirt that there, insert some sob story to tie it together, do absolutely nothing revolutionary... tie in a very boring square linear environment. The 4 player groups are a waste of time.. I don't think there is any social activity anywhere to be had. Yup, im bored already... knowing everything in fromt of me is a simple grind of boredom, which nothing to achieve when that goal is achieved leaves me searching for a new hobby.. as a hardcore gamer, i think im done with games altogether,, just a waste of life

dont sweat, swtor analytic system will catch all exploiting and bioware will remove all valor illgottenly gained... /enddream

oh sorry, i thought you were talking about something important

well, with the players you have, on republic you have to team up and do strategy, you can conquer sith, if you use some communication, leadership and strategy and not just get 24 guys in a ball and roll, because sith will always have that.. if you send 6 here, 6 there, etc etc you can overtake obectives and get some kills even if you don't win most of the time... 8 on 5, 4 on 6, 3 on 5's start to happen and skill becomes a reality.. The next problem is that people don't play because it's not working right and this will kill the gmae... basically players are re-roilling elsewhere, so all pve planets will become faction sided... and pvp is worthess... then you have core players that pvp on pve just to get away from the grief pvping, which is why they chose that, they feel abandoned by the game and they usually unsub... There's no character transfer to help them... after grinding a 50 out in valor legitimately.. then knowing you have to go to another server and do the same, not very likely when there is no certainty the game will be there when they arive.. Free character transfers is a must implement, or the game will drop pvp altogher

unfortunately as a retired game programmer, your not understanding what a battleground is... and maybe should rework this thread as some sort of warzone...

Player stats were always a reason to prevent Exploiting.. A public database of times player has died in PvP or killed in PvP, who he killed most, etc etc, just like in BF2 so you could easily see who cheated their way to the top and who is pure honor and respect.. Sadly, game releasers (developers no longer exist) think stats is the devil and demise of their games).. Must be a lot of subscription money in exploitation, since every year it seems to be catered to more and more and great deterents are dissappearing

Join Message: Error: You can't join, you're faction is outnumbering opposing forces! Player Response: Screw You Bioware, I am playing to play!!!!!!!! Player Rages to Forums... ***?!?!

Ugh, this is a battleground, a 24/7 open world pvp instance.. How could this work.... Are you saying that 24 people cant be in on one side only some of the time? How do you control numbers? Oh if you try, your battleground is moot. What happens when noone is there? Sorry, there is nothing really wrong with the current battlegrounds other than the republic is holding its tail between its legs, not getting proper leadership on some servers, and just not showing up... when they do, they roll in one pack of 20 into another pack of 24 and yell UNFAIR.. instead of playing the strategic war game it is of divide and conquer.... They could make the battlegrounds 500% better, by simply removing all that junk add in crap, open the world up so its mysterious and you have to cover your *** moving around... But for some reason they put this stupid **** in the middle and capture points and no one plays strategically?!?!? whatevs

If you read my post, i said its fine to leave it, but it needs to be addressed... Seperate guilds from pug play is fine... However, the game is over if remains the same... There is no reason to currently play the game other than to unlock gear, (which why do you want gear, there's no reason to have it?!?!) , so no point in continuing to develop PvP without a strategic asset for those to unite. Why do you play Tic Tac Toe? Why do you play chess? Why do you play anything.. To win.. So why do you have a problem with them making changes to allow others to enjoy this fact? So why does 75% of all players NOT play to win here?!?! Because they choose not to use their brains.... So why reward them? Same player base that rants.. GIMME GIMME GIMME and destroys everything... no point in the game period.. might as well turn off the lights and play at home in the dark alone... Seems all you want to do is play a single player game your way, but somehow influence us online players how you want your single player game... makes no sense to mankind whatsoever

Seriously? I mean seriously, i hope your just looking to troll cuz this is the big nonsense I have heard... What is your point again? Yes guild groups, so guilds have something to do, other than share exploits.. Being in the public eye is good recourse for exploiting guilds.. if they get busted cheating.. their name is tarnished forever, guess what, competitve play, adds honor, and discipline, and less trolling... something you obviously cant go a day without doing.. Here, i'll feed your your ********... Suck on these, 5000 more to follow http://photobucket.com/zigzags-tor-scoreboards Yeah i suck, i just happened to double DPS the entire game of players... I suck BAD!! http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc447/Sunder-ZigZag/hutballbestgameever.png?t=1326860580