Woulda, coulda, shoulda....... you made my point, they outnumbered and outsmarted the Jedi, maybe if the Jedi were smarter, they wouldn't be outsmarted, if they were better, they wouldn't be outnumbered if they were good, they would be able to win a fight against Sith on equal ground, which is obvious they cant on several accounts in the films alone I've stated with examples on a post a few pages back

You give ppl too much credit now

Yes, especially ppl with children, and Star Wars fans After Transformers 2 being a racially awkward convoluted piece of crap, ppl still went to see 3

Still wont attribute its reason for success to being that it's a good film, instead that the series is popular

Kotor 3 done Mass Effect style......

Giving too much credit to film itself rather than the series, if the original New Hope was redone in its original form in HD and put into theaters Im certain would match if not double that amount

Exactly my point with Star Wars.... doesn't mean TPM was good, but Star Wars has its fans like Adam Sandler has his fans which is why he grossed 140mil worldwide Or twilight grossing 400mil worldwide

Obviously not which is why I told you where I gotten my references, and if your saying Twilight hasn't been slandered you're vastly mistaken. Besides, so much media on Star Wars that if they release Star Wars- Ewok Christmas Special in theaters in HD and a remake Im certain will make atleast 20mil worldwide... to my knowledge they havent made a Twilight MMO, or Twilight toys, or had a Brisk commericial that I know of

Sith still wins in All counts.... what's your point? Jedi should be more prepared? Or Good, for that matter?

Okay, well they were crap. Which shows, whether something is good or crap..... crap finds a way. And my opinion is shared with 98 percent of the ppl on Rotten Tomatoes and majority of the professional reviewers for magazines and websites such as IMBD TPM though making 80mil, doesn't mean they're doing anything right..... Jack and Jill did everything wrong and made 140mil...

Sure they are, if you have a strong defense, should be effortless

I dont wish to insult the intelligence of those individuals... Twilight was theatrically released on November 21, 2008, grossing over US$392 million worldwide Suppose you would say Twilight was a good movie too? Lets go insulting....... Jack and Jill made $142 million dollars worldwide.... 2percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes; suppose that movie was good too right?

Is that the only point you could defend?

Anakin killed hundreds of Jedi at the temple... that goes beyond flashy; not mention as Vader he's had honorable 1 vs 1 fights and still killed many remnant Jedi, hunting them down post ROTS. Even Malgus in the temple Or Exar Kun storming in to rescue Ulic Qel Droma and killing all Jedi in his way

If it's space combat, Star Trek wins. They actually use a targeting system to specifically take out engines, life support, main power which is highly accurate. And a Warp core, if destroyed, would disable, if not destroy nearby ships. Genesis torpedo which can destroy an entire planet without having to construct a giant space station. The "Q".... which are pretty much omniscient beings that can go back and forward in time, and bend space and time to their will. Cloaking systems on large space vessels. Aliens which are able to peer into ppls minds disrupting their telepathic abilities nullifying Jedi abilities of Battle Meditation They'd never have reason to fight a war in close combat, if they did, Klingons and Jem'Hadar will take care of it along with Vorta for some mysticism Not to mention how easily Starships of gigantic sizes can maneuver in space, Galaxy Class Federation starship can do a U Turn in seconds and the crew manning that vessel is over a thousand

^ This, You win

Inspirational? Yoda He signifies in ESB that the force goes beyond the physical where stereotypes of a great warrior at the time was someone intimidating or physically powerful. And he has the philosophy of Do or Do Not which I abide by daily. Teaches that you should never underestimate yourself

It Should have been Good...

And Im his father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate

Look for "The Phantom Edit" guy edits Phantom Menace to be good, like how the editors saved Episode 4.... but Ep 1 was still no where near as good

Hope not, EU writers get too ridiculous in overpowering Skywalker and his family, frankly Im getting tired of hearing about them.... or reading about them. Why I like the Old Republic, the hero can be Ulic Qel Droma in one instant then Revan the next; their isn't some Legacy of a inconsistently overpowered family writers no longer have an imagination to build upon naturally and realistically

Watch 4, 5, 6 ---- 1, 2, 3 were just a bad dream we all shared in our collective unconsciousness

Successful in the initial coup, but not successful in sustaining itself, barely sustained itself a single generation

These are few of the instances in the movies where Jedi must call on the Dark Side to defeat their Sith opponent which is nearly everytime. --Vader deciding to throw someone down a shaft is calling upon the darkside. --Luke getting pissed and beating Vader down and severing his robot hand is calling upon the darkside. --Obi Wan getting furious when seeing the death of his master is apparent in his boost of ability he was calling upon the darkside to defeat his opponent. --Anakin's final bout with Dooku after he's taunted he explodes in anger with devastating attacks eventually delimbing him and decapitating him. --Mace Windu originally wishing to arrest Sidious at the end wishes to murder him when he is supposedly defenseless which shows he's tapped a little too much of the dark side using his Vaapad style. In almost every instance a Jedi cannot defeat a Sith in a one on one bout without tapping into the Dark Side's power And times when Sith exemplify their superiority against Jedi --Darth Maul takes on 2 jedi at once and kills a Jedi Master Qui Gon, not mentioning the 2 Jedi he killed in Shadow Hunter, just talking about the film, eventually gets killed by Obi Wan who tapped into the Darkside of the force to win --Dooku taking on Obi Wan and Anakin, incapacitating them both, nearly killing them. Being able stand toe to toe against Yoda in force ability and saber combat enough to survive and escapes. Were talking about a 900 year old Jedi Master. --Dooku incapacitating Obi Wan during a 2v1 fight on Grevious' ship, only losing to Anakin who called on the Dark Side of the force to help him win --Anakin massacres hundreds of Jedi in the Jedi Temple --Sidious outclasses Yoda in force power being able to lift several senator platforms at once and launching them back at Yoda where Yoda had trouble only lifting one. --Vader kills Old Obi Wan, cheap kill but, meh --Vader easily defeats Luke in Cloud City --Vader bests Luke on the second Death Star and only loses when Luke calls on the darkside of the force --Luke stupidly throws away his lightsaber and is shock tortured by the Emperor And if were going by the books lets not forget all the Jedi Vader hunted down and killed in Dark Lord- Rise of Darth Vader and so on. All that, films alone, yet ppl still rate Jedi are stronger than Sith? Could be argued, the films matter first, hack writers and a senile old man who Directs movies in the comfort of a lawn chair watching monitors wearing flannel and drinking his coffee constantly changing classic Star Wars for the worse, Matter second in the facts of who or what to reference. Only one instance where a Jedi beats a Sith 1v1 without calling on the darkside and that's the fight between Obi Wan and Anakin. So, he gets a point for that, but letting him burn to a supposed death rather than finishing him off with a lightsaber throw isn't a very Light Side thing to do...

They sort of have a Battlefront 3 for the PSP