Thanks Dael, good info

/Highfive OP. 31 Madness ftw!

I'm 100% referring to when I'm ready with my adrenal/relic going, 100-0 style. Also referring to my personal experience, with my gear, my strategy, my spec, my terms. Not running around stabbing randomly trying not to get eaten by a zerg of people. I have no reason to fabricate the truth, I just simply don't see under 3k, tons of 3.1-3.4. Very good summary, this is precisely what I do. Opportunistic 100%. Squishies (Sorcs, some sins, Operatives opening on someone, Snipers). No point for me to try to take out tanks, he'll simply survive and not die giving ample time for someone else to show up and help him kill me. Skirt around the shadows, the perimeter. Sure, Ill go for tougher targets on some occasions, they're carrying the ball in huttball, waiting on the endzone edge for a pass, guarding a node solo, etc, but I personally see no point in not playing to my strengths, which I feel I do well. If you're different, great, but don't hate on people who do things, and like things differently.

~~~~~~~~~~ Yea, of the 4 attacks that happen frequently, Hidden Strike, Backstab, Shiv, Lacerate, they dont ever go under 3k on a crit, unless the target popped a -inc dmg defense buff. ~~~~~~~~~ Notice my qualifying statement after I said that, unless the target popped a -inc dmg defense buff. My surge is 76.36%, Power is 453, Cunning 1521, crit 31.73%, tech power 1224, Bonus Dmg 689.8. This is with only my crit buff and the blue 2h stim popped, which gives 104 Cunning, 43 power. Those go higher as I receive the other classes buffs, obviously.. When I open and burst a target, I ALWAYS have relics and/or adrenals and/or red exp buffs rolling. I honestly have never seen any of those 4 attacks crit, and do under 3k damage, call me whatever you want.

Personal preference as I don't feel I really need the stun up more often. Also, using the +4% Endurance puts me over 17k with a bh buff in pvp gear, and im a stickler for my stats looking good, looking even. >.<

Yea, of the 4 attacks that happen frequently, Hidden Strike, Backstab, Shiv, Lacerate, they dont ever go under 3k on a crit, unless the target popped a -inc dmg defense buff. My spec, taking all +dmg talents (talents changing a little in 1.2, so this is just for now, point of reference.): http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#4010cZGhrodkrffzZhM.1 I'm perfectly aware that the Warzone Expertise Adrenal you can click on in your inventory and another type of adrenal do share the same cd, and cant be stacked, but you can use red exp buff you grab from the map, power adrenal, and power relic at the same time, still.

Ooh, that is an interesting piece of info I had not heard yet... Thanks.

Right, right, that's what I understand now too, and that is awesome. Buy the real WH pieces on my sorc main well into the 70's ranks, buy the WH gear schematic box on my lvl 30 synthweaving alt, make em, crit em, profit. Gonna be awesome

So you know, just last week my operative with 681 Exp, BM pieces except the 5 pieces of armor, champ armor set, hit 3 different people for over 5k, 5192 was the highest. One was a Sin, Im guessing dps spec, second a vengeance Jugg, third, a sorc with no shield up. I roll +15% WZ adrenal or red ball buff from map (same thing) and my BM power relic with my opening hidden strike to get those numbers, so saying max 4k dmg isnt entirely accurate. Operatives could also technically be biochem as well (mine is not) and have additionally the Rakata Power Adrenal, in addition to the BM Power Relic, and red ball exp buff you pick up on the map. (Which would add a couple % dmg to the numbers below) Assuming I crit every hit, I can technically hit HS for 5k (1.5s), Backstab for 4100 (3.0s) Cloaking Screen (4.5s), Hidden strike for 5k (6.0s) Lacerate 3900 (7.5s), Shiv 3800 (9.0s), Lacerate again, for 3900 (10.5). Totalling 28,700 dmg, assuming every hit crits (which never does) and assuming I blow all adrenals and relics, and blow Cloaking Screen CD. Just clearing things up, OP is still a clear troll. <3

I have found an article by the amazing Dulfy, explaining exactly what my question was, here is a snippet: Lastly, all the endgame PvP armor (Battlemaster, Unrated War Hero, and Rated War Hero) can have their shell crafted for appearance and augment slots! On the Armsmech/Synthweaving PvP vendors there are schematic boxes you can purchase for 50 k credits that give you empty orange shell schematics for the 5 set piece. These schematics don't require any fancy crafting mats and the pieces they crafted are BoE (Bind on Equip, tradeable) but they have certain requirements to wear. Battlemaster crafting pieces require Valor 60 to wear, Unrated War Hero pieces require Valor 70 to wear and Rated War Hero pieces require a certain PvP rating to wear. PvP Crafting Armor awesomeeeeeeeeee

????? Riiight, because rerolling a new craft, ESPECIALLY on a lower level alt that hasn't gotten rare high end recipes from ops and other places, is sooo hard..... /rolleyes

All you're doing is getting this class nerfed more

600-0 or go home son!

OH ok ok. So, let's say I want a crit augment slotted set of the new WH Gear on my main. I buy the new WH gear on my main, take out all the mods/enhances/armors, then that empty piece of WH armor will be tradable to my lvl 30 Jugg Synthweaving alt, in which he can then RE and get a schematic for the WH gear, and craft it in hopes of a crit. Yes? Thanks so much for already clearing up some of the things I wrongly thought.

Ok, I misunderstood the gear I think. War Hero Gear is just another Orange Item you can get the set to get the "skin" you like...? So, where do the new mods and all that which people will be taking out and putting into the "crit oranges" come from? I had understood the new WH pvp gear had them in it.

BOE War Hero gear you could trade from your main to your alt so he can RE it into a Schematic, and essentially anyone else too, ie selling WH Gear?!? O.o

Originally Posted by Kiwaukee Two questions: 1) What will happen to the daily pvp quest rewards? Will we still be given a bag choice depending on rank, and if so, what will it contain? 2) Sort of a follow-up - I just recently obtained valor level 60 and have been trying to save Battlemaster commendations so that I can purchase the weapon (for 3 commendations), but I only have one. Will Battlemaster gear still be available for purchase with leftover commendations after the patch, or should I use the commendation now to purchase an item that only costs 1? Will existing battlemaster/champion/centurion commendations be exchanged for warzone commendations? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Response From GeorgZoeller 1) Some quests reward Warzone commendations, other reward Ranked WZ commendations. We eliminated all RNG mechanics from the PvP gear progression, so no more opening of Battlemaster bags. 2) The answer is that you probably want to use them towards an item. The longer answer is that yes, there's some things you can use your old commendations on, but how desirable they are is in the eye of the beholder. The ever analyzing Dulfy posted a pretty good summary of what to do with your old commendations here: http://dulfy.net/2012/03/20/your-old...tions-and-1-2/ (Thanks Dulfy, making my life much easier )

If you currently are way above Champ/Cent gear (Most players have BM gear by now..) and have tons of extra comms, they arent worthless. You have nothing to spend them on now anyway, so save them and buy boxes and stuff.

Originally Posted by Kiwaukee Two questions: 1) What will happen to the daily pvp quest rewards? Will we still be given a bag choice depending on rank, and if so, what will it contain? 2) Sort of a follow-up - I just recently obtained valor level 60 and have been trying to save Battlemaster commendations so that I can purchase the weapon (for 3 commendations), but I only have one. Will Battlemaster gear still be available for purchase with leftover commendations after the patch, or should I use the commendation now to purchase an item that only costs 1? Will existing battlemaster/champion/centurion commendations be exchanged for warzone commendations? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Response From GeorgZoeller 1) Some quests reward Warzone commendations, other reward Ranked WZ commendations. We eliminated all RNG mechanics from the PvP gear progression, so no more opening of Battlemaster bags. 2) The answer is that you probably want to use them towards an item. The longer answer is that yes, there's some things you can use your old commendations on, but how desirable they are is in the eye of the beholder. The ever analyzing Dulfy posted a pretty good summary of what to do with your old commendations here: http://dulfy.net/2012/03/20/your-old-pvp-commendations-and-1-2/ (Thanks Dulfy, making my life much easier )

1. I think she's just meant to be a snooty bit** so doesnt like things as much, prolly intended. 2. Never seen nor even heard of this.

We should totally get rid of our offhand, and instead affix it to the end of our rifles like a Bayonet

Hey guys, I'm wondering which would be better to use as a compliment to the BM Power Relic I already use? With all my gear and some buffs atm, with Matrix cube my stats are: 741 Bonus Dmg 1650 Cunning 11.88% Expertise 32.67% Crit Subbing in Champ Power Relic for matrix cube stats are: 723.8 Bonus Dmg 1568 Cunning 12.42% 31.98% Which do we think would be better? Obviously Champ relic is better when I remember to use it, but would Matrix cube outweigh the limited amount of time i get to use the champ relic anyway? I'm also hesitant to use Matrix cube because of how often I seem to come out of stealth and Open up on people as concealment. I might've figured out my own question....having another relic is better in Conceal spec, having Matrix better for medicine or lethality (if i ever tried it) :x

You sir are incredibly misinformed. Op/Scoun healing is getting a pretty sizable buff, while their dps and burst is going down a bit. There is nothing they are changing that is making Op healing channeled, they will continue to have only one casted heal necessary, and even then, they will have lots of TA procs that make them a moving healer 99% of the time.

And, dotting everyone USED TO prevent them from capping doors, something that no longer happens.

It will be difficult to adjust for the experience Sorc PvP healers, for someone new to sorc healing, it will be a terribly hard learning curve. Things will just be different, and yes quite a bit more difficult.