My level 50's from launch are now on a server I don' want them to be on... If they are going to make us pay it should be after at the very LEAST one free character transfer for each character. Anything after that then I can settle with paying for. Just my opinion of course.

Tf... its player complaints like this that's fking things up anyway. For something to be underpowered you have to know how it works and how its SUPPOSED to work. Quite frankly I dont see bio here so who the heck are you to say something is OP? Maybe everything else is underpowered or maybe you just suck genius.

So this nerf that will make us bull in ops is due to pvp? The same pvp even pvpers complain is garbage and broken? Well ain't that a...

Heh finally more people stepping up and speaking the truth. Fact is... I don't see you guys making a game and upholding the outrageous demands you seem to give Bio. Like they don't have lives and are some sort of non stop robot that is to bend to your every will, and until you do you really shouldn't try to talk... mess... I will say. For those with some free time on their hands, some truth is stated here as well: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=359704

I personally liked the Assassin story above all.

Nerf your complaints and you might see a spike in your skill should you be willing to forward yourself. All that energy you put into trying to make another class look bad, you could transfer to making yourself adapt and overcome. Damn shame how many pathetic players we have... run to daddy and cry about everything that doesn't go or work exactly how you want it to lol.

I, along with 97% of my guild are not interested in the added content that's supposed to attract more players back or make current players happy enough to stay or whatever your reason is supposed to be. Its the bugs... If your not going to fix, and by fix I mean FIX not cover up or create some easy way around it, the bugs that the game has then why the hell are you adding more stuff? I mean if we have old bugs, and get new bugs every few updates whats adding a lot of new content going to say to the... mature minded players? Ill tell you... 'Great... I wonder what will be bugged once all this is in.' Sure I wouldn't mind changing the color of my... so called assassin or bounty hunter gear, but I would rather be able to play D7 without having 3 warriors and 1 BH spawn all at once on the boss which is supposed to create clones of the people in the group. No mater how good I look its not helping me try to heal or tank all that crap. Sure... I don't mind the potential behind the legacy system, but I don't think a companion I never use at end game having to be out in order to do anything special is going to help my guild clear a bugged Soa in nightmare mode. When we can use heroic moments with other members and it cancels out bugs it may be slightly more appealing. (lol) Sure... I don't mind the occasional changes to classes in order to create an ideal balance, but when a whole class is talked about being changed after a number of 'easy button lovers' as I call them, or egotistic players who's obviously more interested in what they want personally (usually something that will screw over anything better than themselves... hence the many and highly annoying, imo, nerf posts) over whats best for the game it kinda makes you wonder... who is running the show? Bio, look at half of what is said on the forums. Majority of it is an ORDER (not suggestion) from someone with a complaint on a class they are not. Then it is followed by pages of bickering back and forth with all sorts of people who feel oh so important and like their word trumps all. Ask yourself... would you higher these children (and I hope these are not grown men and women lol) to work for you? And if not... why the HELL are you letting them influence your game. I mean a lot of mmos make the same mistake... listening to the wrong crowd. History repeats itself, but lets try not to be the ones to repeat history. Over time it should be easy to pick out what a real issue is, you can tell simply by the way it is presented. Want to nerf something... Nerf the real problem, your got damn complainers. If you notice, that's majority of the forums. Possibly a reason why things continue to look worse and worse as time goes on, just my opinion. Forget about adding a second floor if the first one is about to cave in. Fix the BUGs, do what you must to balance the classes and let players know that unless every class has every ability and everything is exactly the same, it will never truly be balanced so they can honestly shut the fruck up with these 'change this and all will be well!' posts. Hell if you want hire me and Ill say all the things you want to, but cant due to trying to be politically correct lol. Good games are supported by players, stop trying to support players to make your game good. ^ Not all from me, a collection of things put together from my guild lol. Regardless I support it all. For those players being pointed out above!!! (most likely the ones who will waist their time commenting on a post they don't like. or took offense to due to their ego... we will see who they are in due time xD) Please... dont waste your time and try to attack me with your words... You don't pay me 6 figures and quite frankly I'm not here to bicker, only speaking the truth. So this is a heads up, I'm not responding to your foolishness, wasn't talking to you anyway lol. So just carry on with your day. This is all just my/our opinion. See you in game!

Nothing like a good laugh from idiots on the forums...

This is not WoW, so get the hell out of here with WoW crap.

Common sense (I thought) would show you cannot control your opponents class, spec, or anything... So um... whats the problem? What you want people to be denied for warzones because of being a sorc/sage or something? lol... Come on guys... lets bish about the bugs not our personal dislikes that we can get over. Now your just being silly. xD

Wait... your teams loosing, people leave... and your mad? Just play the damn game and stop worrying about everyone else. That simple... not like they are going to activate a god mode and come save your team from the loss anyway. Just get the valor, exp, and everything else YOU EARN ALONE and play the game. Also stop being to self centered. This is why people bish about things, mmos make changes, and then there is even more the bish about. Attack the whole issue not just the part that makes you mad. I leave warzones cause A, I hate the concept of voidstar so ha... I will not play it. B, sick of being put into the middle/end of a damn match whether the teams winning or not. C, hell... I gotta go. So lets say for a minute Bio listened to you and made the change.... now there's more problems because the people your raging at are not the only ones doing it and there is more then one reason to leave a warzone believe it or not. Also... 30 min penalty for a 15min warzone... lol... I will just laugh at the idea. Before bio adds on to the broken house they need to fix up the structure that's all I am saying. And before players expect them to add on to it we need to give more then 'Im mad, here is why, now change this.' Ever think your loosing because your to focused on what everyone else is doing, raging about it, and letting it throw you off your game? Have some fun, play the game, and stop letting every little thing make you rage on the forums. Its that simple and it works for me and my pvp buddies lol. -Responce for the post below... I hate reposting xD- Oh yea, that's another issue. Whats with the random wz disconnections? Been hearing that from a number of people in my guild. Only happened to me once though but eh...

First off show me how to spam TM. Use it back to back? Id see it more as spam if it didnt have a cast time and Id feel more sympathetic to all the people obviously to... slow minded enough to utilize their own abilities to stop or get the F out of the way. Back to the issue of spam... its hilarious how my rotation is TM, unload, TM, HS, TM, Rail, unload, YET.... I'm getting a lot of whispers talking about 'stop spamming TM you have no skill.' How about you idiots stop seeing or simply hearing a TM and assuming oh that's all hes using! Now its getting out of hand and highly annoying, not saying all BHs are wrongly accused but if any of you were smart enough to do alil research... you would WANT them to spam. A skilled BH does WAY more damage not 'spamming' as you say. Hmm... 2 sec to shoot... the first one (on my sin) lets me know im targeted, by the time the 2nd one comes ive stealthed out of sight, or used force speed to get out of range, unless im in range then I use one of my interupts, then I come back and F them up. Maybe you shouldnt just stand and get hit? I mean seriously... it doesnt stun you so MOVE or DO SOMETHING. Stop coming to ***** about your lack of movement or action... seriously BIO! Stop altering the game because of the complainers. Wanna nerf someone, nerf how much of an influence all these players have on YOUR game. Fix the bugs, not the issues people who are used to the 'easy button' are complaining about. Real talk.

Lol... what are you talking about? Might as well stay on topic. Will work better then some.. logic on an obviously misunderstood comment.

I believe bio made the endgame gear awful so that those brilliant designs we expect in star wars can be released further down the road... At least I hope that's their story lol.

I have a strange feeling bios about to screw up BH and loose more players in an attempt to keep some. Bets anyone? lol. I like my BH as is... but it looks like I better dust off my assassin lol.

What is with people... You know how mad you would be if every class had exactly the same abilities under different names? Maybe bio didn't want to make every damn class mirror the others exactly. Possible Logic: Your class is not their class so why expect it to be the same?

Is this seriously a talk about nerfing a ability based on the fact, not that its OP or nothing of the sort, but because multiple people from the same class with the same ability also use it? Please tell me I am misunderstanding something... and because of huttball at that? I dont even like huttball, I better not have my ability nerfed because of it lol... silly.

Oh yes... This is genius. Give us more survivability so that later we will have people complaining and wanting our dps nerfed cause we will be able to put out even more. Also stop with this talk on 'balance.' You cant say 'change this so everything will be balanced' cause that means everything else would have to already be balanced..

Ah well I just want the look, I could care less what race bio made it lol. Never knew he wasnt a full droid though, or paid that much attention I suppose.

(If it was Imperial side) 'The Republic has an issue with staying out of our affairs. We are sending you as a special team to infiltrate and kill 8 counter parts from the republic side who have been more then enough trouble to my men. The harassers have been spotted on the far side of the jungle and we have sent a number of Imperial forces to stop these fools but none have returned. There may be still some out there but be wary as there is also savage beasts, small republic forces, and who knows what else. These eight are your primary targets but feel free to spread fear into those in between. Once all eight targets have been eliminated contact me via holocom. We cannot afford failure!' Lol of course thats an attempt to make out how the match would start but I hope it explains itself. Normal mode - 4v4 Hard - 8v8 Nightmare - 16v16 The idea is in a operation style warzone (as I see it) where members from each team starts on opposite ends with a lot of PvE trash in the mix to make things ever so interesting. Ideally the teams will fight to the middle (should they be of equal skill and speed in killing their trash) and then it ends in kind of a team, last man standing match. Of course the fun behind this will be the strategy and the fact that the 'boss' (as if it was pve) will always be different. But every fight can be different... Might end up attacked by stealth users in a pull, or who knows what. (Of course the beginning should not be 'avoidable' to prevent sin teams from using stealth to the other side or something lol, no challenge in that.) Oh yes... a cross between PvP and PvE. The ultimate idea of crossing teamwork and skill... ha. Plus... the same O same O can/will get old (when you got all your pve gear lol). This will always be different imo. Please leave comments and more suggestions on the idea!

Not extreme at all... The idea is 2 lightsabers will be as is (main/offhand)... the other two will replace what we know as relics (droids dont need 'relics') so it would work out well, but give the look that is desired. And obviously the lightsaber 'relics' would be droid only but yea, simple as that. Of course they shouldnt have 4 raw lightsabers lol. OP by far.

Ilum doesn't cut it, for what most the players seem to want pvp wise. My suggestion is that you (Bio) create a planet whose soul purpose is PvP but... Not like ilum. I think a lot can thrive from the idea and here are only a few things I personally wouldn't mind seeing should it come to pass that kind of toggles what I noticed most the players are leaning towards in the idea of pvp: -Kill/Heal streaks. (From that planet only!) How many kills/healing of killers in a row a player gets before dying on the planet. Similar to rewards accept it could be another stat in the tab or something 'Highest Rep/Imp Streak.' Maybe that could go even farther into k/d ratios. Ideally the higher the number of kills in a row, the higher gains maybe? Something to work with. -Capturable areas. Big enough planet with a nice number of areas in 'exciting' and adventurous looking locations would have me sold lol. -Toggle 'Traitor Mode.' Something that just flew into my head, the ability to attack other players (if you wish) who are also on your side. This (in the RP world) would be awesome. First thing Id do is make a neutral, grey jedi guild and hunt other jedi lol. No but in all seriousness it can help in pvp for those servers or times that the balance is out of place. Can also (if used in conjunction with the kill/heal streaks) open up a variety of PvP titles. Maybe if your a republic and you kill 100 other republics on the planet you earn the title (for example) 'Xioshen, The Grey Jedi.' That's all I have for now but like I usually say, it can be worked with and expanded if it (or something similar) isn't in the works already and it sounds promising to you. Please add on suggestions and comments if you have them!

It may seem silly but I am so serious... please (in the future of course) allow us to play droids on both sides. General Grievous is who I want to be, screw the rest lol. Could actually make droids a jack of all trades class. Considering they can be 'programmed' to do just about anything. I wont get into to much detail but here's a basic idea of what I mean. Battle Droid (DPS) -4 lightsabers (Based off General Grievous for just that sexy look lol) Let me specify, as someone pointed out below, the idea is not 4 lightsabers but 1 mainhand, 1 offhand, and the 2 lightsaber 'relics' if you will that are droid only. Astromech Droid (Tank) -Saberstaffs and simular non-lightsaber melee weapons, might as well give them a purpose lol. Medical Droid (Medic) -2 blasters Base idea but I am sure it can be expanded and worked with. By all means add ideas and suggestions based off this one here if you have them.

Unimportant I'm going to start directing people to come here for debate training cause that's all it is after the first few posts lol... Obviously something is wrong if majority here are giving you a number of reasons that your wrong. But that's not the point, all your doing here is try to make a comeback to their post, pretty sure you will probably do the same to mine. All this negative energy, its like your all running for president or something. Spend less time talking and more time working on yourself. You cant expect the whole game to change because things are not going your way and you shouldn't expect it. Suggestions are better heard than demands. Point Anyway, I wont go into the whole, dragged out explanation of why I personally believe sins are not OP. I will say... I see your point of view and understand, however there are a variety of ways to counter or beat each class with each class, is it possible you just haven't found one that works. Adapt and overcome... Tips that all can take in Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. -Albert Einstein Until you have tried everything, every rotation, every method in your power to beat them you should not complain, because that means you have room to improve and a reason to continue to play. (Unless its utterly ridiculous of course... meaning 10k crits every other proc type ridiculous). I personally love when I have a hard time beating a class, its what I want in a game. A challenge... and if the class is OP I will be those few who say its not after time, because I adjusted to their style and beat it. I didn't need the whole game to change, why should you? (And I am assuming you have the ability and potential to improve with that comment) By no means is this a troll post and I hope you don't take it as such. Im just saying you made your point, justified it. You don't need to make everyone else believe you. If bio agrees its for the best, it will change. Just food for thought in the meantime... It is easier to work on yourself then trying to make their game work for you... Take what was said however you will. Meanwhile... I will be enjoying myself in the game. Stop the madness and political debates!

I do less damage but have like 40+ kills... Not sure if I would trade. DoTs look nice... but the bodies hitting the floor looks better lol.