That would be awesome

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EDIT: Ignore this entire post. I played Legion during beta as a Demon Hunter, and I thought it was the most horrendously boring thing I have experienced in World of Warcraft since I started in vanilla (Yeah). I just as the time of editing this gave my destruction warlock a chance. Wow, the expansion is amazing. I won't go into detail, but I based a entire expansion off of beta and one class, don't do what I did. I am huge newb in swtor. I mean I have 1/8 the time or less in Swtor then I do in WoW. I even got invited to the Legion Beta, played it briefly and even streamed it a little bit. I pre ordered Legion, played the early access for a little while not that it matters because I had beta forever all the way up to early access. Yet I have never logged into Legion since it has been released. I am even a huge Demon Hunter fan, I still have 0 interest in logging into Legion. I am going to brake down the reasons why I like Swtor now more then WoW starting with the Dislikes: Legion Dislikes: 1. My friend, and other people I know can decently PvP as a Fire Mage and a Subtlety Rogue now, along with everybody else. There is a problem with this, but if it doesn't seem that way to you then it probably isn't a problem to you. (Game is easier, more accessible, but is a downgrade for PvPers in my opinion). 2. Classes are static and boring 3. Ability Pruning, which kind of falls under 2. Legion Likes: 1. More people play it 2. Arena is still competitive regardless of above dislikes, easy to get teams together, 1min or less Q times. 3. Better game engine 4. Diminishing Returns (not that its really a concern or thing here, but I guess ill list it). 5. World PvP 6. Duels, everyone duels in World of Warcraft . You duel 24/7 your logged on (basically). It is a thing. When your waiting on battleground Q's, and sometimes arena Q's even though they pop quickly. Standing in the Fleet in swtor or hitting a practice dummy is not the answer, its not good. Why I like Swtor better then WoW, starting with the Likes: 1. Classes have more abilities in Swtor then WoW, yes that happened 2. Classes are more fun to play, I can play Swtor far longer and not get bored 3. Its Star Wars Dislikes: 1. Game Engine is awful for PvP, but we all deal with it 2. Ranked Group PvP is dead, 3. Solo Rank is dead, and Solo Rank itself is strangely considered competitive in swtor. 4. No world PvP, even if your on a PvP server for some reason. 5. No Target Enemy Group Member 1-4 hot keys, yet there are Target Friendly Group Member 1 - 4 hot keys. The work around for this is unnecessarily a slight pain. Will be difficult for any WoW arena player 2200 mmr+ XP to take 4v4's in Swtor seriously if there are not Target/Focus Enemy Group Member 1-4 hot keys available. 6. There is no duel area connected to the Fleets. Bioware can't so much as add a PvP zone that you load into (separate cell) from like a elevator. Give it a PvP vendor, a mailbox, a stronghold rules duel area, warzone duels area, planet rules duel area. Something, I mean anything. Standing around in the fleet is awful. Bioware is mostly at fault with the dislikes. Nothing I just said above will make them more money then what they are doing now. I mean its something they'd of had to do early on, way early on. If Bioware isn't taking the PvP side of things seriously then you gotta ask yourself why should you? Well for me, my answer is that its better then Legion. Swtor is underrated, that is what all this comes down to. From my point of view and opinion Legion makes Swtor look good right now. Its sad because WoW PvPers that like Star Wars come over to this game, they have no idea what server to start on. Some are smart enough to make a thread or do some research about it. They find out they should play on The Harbinger (if they are located in my area of the world), and they realize its a PvE server. That is one red flag. Then they start getting into the dislikes I hit on, some more quickly then others. I am going to keep playing it though, the PvP really is good, the classes are good. The mechanics are there, the game really just suffers from being underrated. Hopefully with all things I hit on that doesn't sound naive to say that swtor's PvP is underrated.

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I just noticed your reply, yea that will haft to work

It's really sinple, you have Target Group Member 1-4 Bioware just needs to add Target Enemy Group Member 1-4

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Alright thanks for stopping by MachoLL, glad to have ya.

Well you can see channeled abilities in game, but I know what your saying. I mean now that is something that would be a bigger deal to add then just simply adding Enemy Arena Targets. Even having channeled bars on the frames wouldn't be much work, but Bioware would haft to add it. I just simply want the option to use Enemy Target hot keys for 4v4s, it really is not a lot to ask from Bioware.

Let's take out Target Group Member hot keys, *****it I'll click those frames. I agree, man I think I may even start clicking a couple more abilities, it doesn't take long, my monitor is small shooot, ain't a thing. This SVTCarnage punk trying to come up in here and suggest something that would take the developers 15min to put in.

Ok your wrong, I mean it's a opinion, that is yours. Right clicking to pan/turn isn't what most would consider clicking. If your not using right click your keyboard turning and that is bad. What you said would really back fire on you on arena junkies if this was WoW. It's your opinion though and what I am proposing be added is really simple, it's a preference.

Right now there is Target Group Member 1 - x, and that is great for healers. However in WoW arena, I do not touch my left mouse button once I enter the arena. Having enemy target hot keys is really a big deal to me, I have wanted this for awhile. This makes the second thread I have made about it, its been awhile since I made the last one. I have also seen at least one other make a thread about it years ago. I just really think such a simple thing could surely be added, and wouldn't cause any harm. So what we are looking at is here: http://imgur.com/Mt6oUHm And far as clicking vs keybinding, I mean if your clicking anything in arena your a clicker. That is a fact. So I mean all you PvPers out there, that is something to think about. I mean if I am not in there with a good dps that I know I can sync with via setting focus target hot key, assist focus target's target hot key, then I am clicking when tab may or may not work for me. So lets maybe petition this, or I don't know, something, get Bioware's attention on this. I mean it really such a simple thing.

Thank you. There are 1v2s that I haft to grab them, then 1v2s that you are faced with "will they grab it?". Then some obviously are not winnable, so its a grind. Its also luck, everyone should record, you never know when you might get that footage. Without world pvp or 2v2 arena it's a grind hah (far as the health orb not being a thing anyway..).

Annihilation is the best solo warzone spec. Carnage is good 1v1, and syncs really well with other dps (it's the ****). However Annihilation is a good 1v2 spec, it's a little more optimized for it. Once you get dots up & going its nice. So luckily I have time to record for a Annihilation pvp movie, and have been working on it. The health orbs and or interruption's are a thing in warzone's and it really kills 1v2s, but **** I am determined to make this movie before 5.0. Here is the highlight montage:

2v2 arena would be good for swtor, more people would do it. I mean id say 3v3's would be the best for the game. 4v4's are great, but you need 8 people. 3v3's you need 6, 2v2's you need 4, the less people needed the faster and more often your going to get into ranked games, whether it is grouped or solo ranked. If more people played Ranked 4v4's are fine, but I definitely would love to have 2v2's. And with 2v2's you can 1v2 if that is your thing, and that is a big thing in WoW. There will be comps/players that you can't 1v2, but there will always be comps/players that you can 1v2 and that is just good video . With world PvP being over/none existent, and warzone's being very objective based, the best and quickest source for 1v2 encounters will be 2v2 arena. No one can interrupt the fight, and everyone has there cd's up, it doesn't get any more 1v2 then 1v2 arena.

Thanks for that info, yea I did notice that he is streaming tonight, will definitely check that out.

Hey your the best pvper in swtor and you smell good, can you pm me that info as well please? Thanks Edit: Sweet, I love the new Ravage and Overwhelm changes, if it is what it sounds like on paper we can do more damage in a Overwhelm window who knows. Ravage becomes a instant hit basically, roots the target for 3 seconds, I don't know that sounds too good to be true but will see. No diminishing returns on a none channeled Ravage that can root for 3 seconds? Hah will see, that would be awesome. So that is a major buff ^, even if Ravage does half the damage now, the fact you can Ravage within a second or less, and have 2 seconds to get off at least two other abilities within a root is pretty nice. Other then that I like the utilities they combined, I definitely am a fan of that. Carnage needs two more abilities though for it to be more fun to play then Annihilation. I mean I love Carnage, but it would really be nice to have Retaliation and Rupture back, or something. Two more offensive abilities would really make the spec shine again. I mean in 2.5 you had Retaliation and Rupture, they aren't just huge offensive abilities, but it was fun having those abilities to hit. Right now Annihilation is a little more fun to play then Carnage in my opinion because Annihilation has 3 more offensive abilities then Carnage. So my thing is this: "Ok Carnage is in a good spot, what do we do? Well lets add these two offensive abilities that really don't add much more dps then what Carnage already has, but it will make the spec a little more fun, and give it a couple more abilities". That is what I would pitch to Bioware in a meeting. Because you can't really say "Well Carnage needs two more abilities", that wouldn't work. You can't give Carnage a heal outside of the Blood Ward utility because then the spec becomes over powered. You can't give it two more offensive abilities that do a lot of damage because then the spec becomes over powered.

The hate is real on that team haha, good **** snave

I am just trolling, I ask for agent buffs, I'm the biggest newb in the pvp forums.

Krackerjack is a newb so he doesn't know what he is talking about Lol

The only class a mara can't beat 1v1 is a Operative, and then a Assassin like just literally right behind a OP in that department. Then any other class or spec depends on the players behind the classes. I mean a skank tank jugg can kind of be a pain for like maybe Carnage. This is just my experience or opinion, assuming were talking about good players of course.

Long as Bioware doesn't prune any mara abilities away I am happy. Id flip if they actually added a couple more abilities to Carnage, that would be absolutely amazing, Retaliation back at least would be nice. Annihilation has 3 more offensive attack abilities then Carnage. I mean even if the two added abilities didn't actually do anything lol, I'd still want them, just to have more abilities to hit while playing Carnage. I don't like that Annihilation is more fun to play right now to me then Carnage.

List your character names, class/'s/spec/'s. I want to add as many people as I can. Right now I'll play with anyone, and any comp, and if I find a active team that wants to push rating great. Any characters you play or would play group ranked with list here. Also must be able to use Discord, and have a mic. Straightmurder - Mara (Anni, Carnage) Vindrak'PvP - Merc (Arsenal, IO)

No juggs in the video, just mara's, one assassin (a good one, I dueled him a lot outside of warzone's, and played some ranked with him), and then a Operative @4:29 with a merc pulling me and etc.