you should listen to this guy... Sithterror knows what he is talking bout... he has fotm fever... it spews truthfullness

this is interesting... I dont 50 pvp much... but all the imps in the lower brackets on Ordo seem to be healers... I am constantly seeing 3+ healers in these matches... maybe i make them hate life so much the GG quit b4 50?

tsk tsk tsk... y u no use proper statement of "why you no" ? tsk tsk tsk

Pistols... Y u No play GW2 WvWvW and then ask me why bioware no implements similar?

welcome to Biowares dilemma. you have two opposite sides... which do you choose? the gear side which has more numbers but a HUGE overturn rate (meaning they get gear and leave) or you choose the other side, which is Skill over Gear. The Skill over gear group is far smaller BUT they stay far longer. Bioware chose the gear group, they are failing as an MMO because of it. Guild Wars chose a skill over gear and will last 3x if not 4x as long because they have the people who stay longer. Bioware made a HUGE amount of money in the beginning from these Gear junkies... but... like they always do... they got the gear, got bored and left. In my opinion Bioware chose poorly and now has to pay the repercussions for such. Gear grind is old... alientates new player base... flawed form of progression.

PUGS... Y u NO pay attention to ops chats? DEVS... Y u NO open world pvp?

sorry op but you don't get it... not at all... your argument is not even based upon the skill vs gear ... its gear vs gear... what needs to happen is gear be taken out of the pvp equation completely. set stats for class types... or hell if you are such a gear focused person... cosmetic gear per class that is just a costume pretty much but has stats applied to it. for example... you buy the combat medic gear set... it gives you set stats for combat medic. that way everyone who buys this set has the same stats... now you are reliant on skill. if you are going combat tech... buy the set that is for combat tech. IF you want to have more customization then have an empty augment slot on those costume pieces that way if you want more endurance, or more main stat you can add a bit of that... but not enough to be game breaking as is now... "but but but PvE still has gear progression" that is gonna be your arguement... (i know it is) there is a huge difference between pvp and pve... that being you can choose what type of enemies you want to go against. If i jumped into Denova with 45 greens... guess what i am gonna get rolled. ALSO if you are such a progression nazzi, Have different cosmetic looks that you get upon valor completion... it promotes even gameplay, will the noobs get pwned... you bet... and they will have no excuse. right now.. with gear progression in PvP... you are alienating any new player base you may get.... gear progression is pve not pvp... pvp should be about skill... and right now it is dumbed down to gear making too much of a difference. Its not about gear.... its stats.... make them set... and then the whiners will be shown they are bad... but the people who refined their skill will shine

YES YES YES YES YES! I hate 50 pvp! its all about gear! can i get battlemaster... yes... then start the grind to warhero, ick... I would like to see the brackets split though... 10 - 25 and 26 - 49 This would make the playing ground a bit more even. I level mainly with pvp up to 50 then get my battle master gear and stop. its a grind, and very unbalanced... i see people using their cooldowns awfully, i see people with wrong rotations beating people because they have better gear... no thanks... too uneven for me... I will enjoy the 49 brackets and have fun... then PvE for my gear progression k thnx bai

I dont use weakening blast in my new hybrid... its an engineering lethality mix... the rotation was for my lethality build i have been running in the ops up to about 2 days ago. also I am not keeping up with the Power-tech who is equally geared either... yet he keeps up with the BH marauder... see the problem here lol i wouldn't mind not keeping up to people that way out-gear me but i cant even keep up with a power-tech who still doesn't even have his mainhand weapon.

I appreciate the suggestions, I am at work so i will try to put out my rotation best i can out of memory I am full rakata geared. as is our PT the marauder is full BH, so there is a difference there (yet the Pt can keep up, its silly) My Main rotation: corrosive dart weakening blast (regens a bit of energy) Corrosive grenade Power Relic or Crit relic depending on energy needs Cull acquire target Series of Shots Laze Target Snipe Cull Corrosive Dart Weakening Blast Corrosive Grenade crit adrenal Cull Series of Shots etc Any suggestions Would be of help. I use snipe only when laze target is up, i save my crit relic for energy needs also whenever my orbital strike is available i am using that as well... I have created a new hybrid build that i feel can increase my dps but MoX parser is no longer working. so if you know of any other parsers i would be appreciative.

fraps or it never happened. gear is a huge difference, with that small amount of gear there is no way in hell you are gonna win matches, unless your team is full of rifleshot nublets. I plan on playing both games because i like the PvE in Swtor but the pvp is lacking ESPECIALLY since i have played WvWvW in GW2.... it was soooo awesome. HUGE battles, no lag, objectives, keeps, etc. Yes you can open world PvP in this game, and get a ban for it. (yes it happens) In GW2 you enter the zone for it and its HUGE!.... aw man just thinking about it makes me sooo excited for release!

yeah PvP is perfectly fine... Its ops that i see the huge disparagement. I love my sniper in pvp. hate its guts in PvE

I have been trying spec after spec, trying to get the same damage numbers as a PT and marauder in HM denova, and i cannot pull it off... By this i mean literally 200k more damage at the end of the fight. Are you having the same problem? if not, what spec are you running, rotations, ect. This has been bugging me. During the fight with Toth/Zorn one of the melee always has to come help the 2 snipers. I am running lethality as it is the easiest sustained damage with the movement we have to do. I put up about 1300 dps and have no energy issues. I feel i have the rotations down. any input would be of help. I hope i am not the only one seeing the huge gap in damage output from the sniper compared to PT/Marauder.

I really do like the PvP in this game, what i am upset by is the lack of any sort of balance, AND no open world pvp! i mean cummon... that is the main reason i will play GW 2 is because of the huge 50 v 50 v 50 battles that are plain and simply..... EPIC! and the keeps and castles and game bonuses to PvE by playing WvWvW. this game has no resemblance of open world pvp. its my biggest gripe.

sorry i have refrained but the fact this has gone this far is ridiculous... its called situational awareness... if you are so unaware that you cant tell the difference between grass and snow... then there's your sign.... open your eyes... its a whole heck of a lot easier to say grass or snow. they are night and day different. and guess what... they mean the same gosh danged thing whether you are playing pubs or imps.... you know to go to snow when someone yells it out, and same thing with grass... you don't even have to look at the map, you just go... cause it is SO FREAKIN EASY. /thread (i cant believe this is even an argument.) AND when people on my server use east west... i actually just stand there and type... is that snow or grass? cause its just all around better... just sayin

agreed, I use it every time it comes off CD

did you ever think that maybe... just maybe... they are frustrated? i will admit, I sometimes talk down to other players, its frustrating to watch 3 guys fighting people while a guy walks up and caps the door in a voidstar, its frustrating to see the lack of situational awareness people have... so yes... i get frustrated, i talk down to you, but its not cause i hate you, its cause i am frustrated that you cant get simple things that my 7 year old nephew gets. so yeah... its cause they are frustrated. pvp is frustrating, specially pug. I will admit that there are others though that take it too far, but the majority are just frustrated, ignore it and keep playing... it doesnt hurt you. or even see what they are sccreaming about and oh... i dunno... improve on it so you dont frustrate them to an ulcer in future matches.

quoted for truth

no you should read it as, its the way the game is set up, you did not prepare before hand, and if you cant get 1 medal in a match with recruit, gear will not help you because there is serious issues with your GAMEPLAY, and in all seriousness, not trying to be a turd, you need to learn to play or just go PvE. What you are saying, makes no sense, and has nothing at all to do with gear... at all. sorry buckaroo, I hate gear based pvp just as much as the next guy, but it does not prevent you from getting at least 4 medals, that is a skill problem.

if you enter into pvp without at least 1 BM piece, you deserve to get rolled over and over, mainly because you did not prepare before hand by getting 3500 ranked coms and 2000 warzone coms. with that you can get your mainhand, offhand, chestpiece and boots... i feel no remorse for those people who come in full recruit, you cant expect to be dropped into pvp at 50 and do well. is it right, no, but thats the way it is, I hit 50 and prepared beforehand I have no problems getting 8+ medals a match. if you cant get a single medal in a match... quit... cause (not trying to be a jerk) you are ruining your teams chances of a win. effectively you are making it a 7 v 8 match... its SOOOOO easy to get at least 4 medals in a match. if you are dying so much you dont get one... there is some seriousl learning you have to do, cause you are doing it wrong. sorry but thats the way it is, it makes no sense for someone to get invincibility for sucking... cause lets face it... thats the real issue... not the gear.

no... just no.. i really want say more... but no suffices

Yeah I have to agree that the damage output is not as well in pve. I have played around with all the classes, 5 of which i have end game raided with. My sniper blows my merc out of the water as does my sentinal, not so bad in pve but in pvp the margin is huge! me and barabbas raid together in the same guild, myself on my sniper, and 2 pyros (one a merc pyro) and a marauder, you should see the parser numbers, we are talking over 150 k difference at the end of a battle between myself, the PT the marauder and barrabas, and its not a l2p issue either cause he has one class only and has his CDs practically mentally memorized. it is a class issue. Here are a few things I personally would like to add to his statements. (i have only played arsenal and bodyguard so pyro is not my expertise.) Arsenal/gunnery for this I see one fix that would make arsenal/gunnery soar and that is allow tracer missile to be insta cast, with a 3.5 second cd, this skill is the CORNERSTONE of the build yet it can so easily be interrupted gimping the class. this way the dps stays the same... but it is viable in pve AND pvp... this would increase the viability of the spec 10 fold. another thing i would change is make power shot part of the rotation, by allowing it to stack a damage buff to tracer missile by 2 % a stack up to 5x. this can be interrupted and will allow people to use their interrupts on the BH to lower his dps. these two things would bring merc arsenal back into the mix. Pyro/assault specialist I talked earlier tonight about this build with Barabbas and he mentioned above the things he would like to see, however, I personally would like to add another, instead of the hilariously bad proc with rapid shots and Combustible Gas Cylinder, It needs to be increased to 75% chance to proc, and slow 50%. this will allow the pyro class to effectively "kite" those melee classes that so easily shut down the spec. Bodyguard/combat medic very hard class to play, but can be played... HOWEVER , it needs some changes. Kolto missile NEEDS TO BE A SMART HEAL, how many times do we have to say this.... it makes raiding a pain in the *** for this healing class. ALSO bring back our damage reduc from the cylinder kolto to pre 1.2 nerf. it was fine, and LASTLY bring back the 16 heat vent from activating the cylinder. heat management is a pain as it is now... OVERALL there are a few overarching changes for all specs that need to be addressed, we have NO defensive CDs at all. AT ALL, one very bad knock back, and by very bad.... i mean very bad. get rid of it all together, add a rocket boost that sends you back 25m that AOE roots people for 5 seconds, with a 2 second damage break. this would be SO MUCH BETTER. Now the shield, its nice for an oh crap moment, but the mercs NEED to have the CD reduced I am talking 1 min cd 10 seconds of duration. this NEEDS to happen. right now we have NO defense, at all, and it makes us unwanted in rated as well as in pve raids. I feel that these changes will bring the merc class overall, up to par with the other classes. long story short, I dont know what metrics BW is looking at, but as for me and my guild/server, mox parser is provin you wrong, over and over and over again. increase the dps bring them up to par with the 2 highly balanced dps classes, being mainly PT and Marauder, and you will see a huge increase in the amount of players pulling these unwanted classes off the shelf and becoming a viable class other than healing again.

sorry buckaroo... but when I can 3 v 1 people on the other team while watching those same players 2 v 6 my teammates... you best believe i am gonna sit my butt on that node get my medals and let the match finish faster. i refuse to get my self killed over and over to teams full of people who cannot break the 50k damage mark... hell, I had one match last night where i solo capped a node from 3 enemy players, left it with 4 people on it and they lost it to 2 people... and no one on my team (except me) got more than 20 k damage.... that... is.... horrid. i will get my medals and defend a node...

you have to go to the extreme to hit my ignore, and it sounds like he got yelled at for not helping in a warzone, then put them all on ignore, and felt the need to release his frustrations on the forums... sorry but the guy needs to have a thicker skin. its an mmo, people rage, the more people you ignore, the more likely you are to be a detriment to your team.

that made me lol, bioware is fine, they have already made their money back plus a ton, i am sure they are sitting happy with this game... if not, they have huge games like dragon age, and mass effect to back them up lol.