you should listen to this guy... Sithterror knows what he is talking bout... he has fotm fever... it spews truthfullness

this is interesting... I dont 50 pvp much... but all the imps in the lower brackets on Ordo seem to be healers... I am constantly seeing 3+ healers in these matches... maybe i make them hate life so much the GG quit b4 50?

tsk tsk tsk... y u no use proper statement of "why you no" ? tsk tsk tsk

Pistols... Y u No play GW2 WvWvW and then ask me why bioware no implements similar?

welcome to Biowares dilemma. you have two opposite sides... which do you choose? the gear side which has more numbers but a HUGE overturn rate (meaning they get gear and leave) or you choose the other side, which is Skill over Gear. The Skill over gear group is far smaller BUT they stay far longer. Bioware chose the gear group, they are failing as an MMO because of it. Guild Wars chose a skill over gear and will last 3x if not 4x as long because they have the people who stay longer. Bioware made a HUGE amount of money in the beginning from these Gear junkies... but... like they always do... they got the gear, got bored and left. In my opinion Bioware chose poorly and now has to pay the repercussions for such. Gear grind is old... alientates new player base... flawed form of progression.

PUGS... Y u NO pay attention to ops chats? DEVS... Y u NO open world pvp?

sorry op but you don't get it... not at all... your argument is not even based upon the skill vs gear ... its gear vs gear... what needs to happen is gear be taken out of the pvp equation completely. set stats for class types... or hell if you are such a gear focused person... cosmetic gear per class that is just a costume pretty much but has stats applied to it. for example... you buy the combat medic gear set... it gives you set stats for combat medic. that way everyone who buys this set has the same stats... now you are reliant on skill. if you are going combat tech... buy the set that is for combat tech. IF you want to have more customization then have an empty augment slot on those costume pieces that way if you want more endurance, or more main stat you can add a bit of that... but not enough to be game breaking as is now... "but but but PvE still has gear progression" that is gonna be your arguement... (i know it is) there is a huge difference between pvp and pve... that being you can choose what type of enemies you want to go against. If i jumped into Denova with 45 greens... guess what i am gonna get rolled. ALSO if you are such a progression nazzi, Have different cosmetic looks that you get upon valor completion... it promotes even gameplay, will the noobs get pwned... you bet... and they will have no excuse. right now.. with gear progression in PvP... you are alienating any new player base you may get.... gear progression is pve not pvp... pvp should be about skill... and right now it is dumbed down to gear making too much of a difference. Its not about gear.... its stats.... make them set... and then the whiners will be shown they are bad... but the people who refined their skill will shine

YES YES YES YES YES! I hate 50 pvp! its all about gear! can i get battlemaster... yes... then start the grind to warhero, ick... I would like to see the brackets split though... 10 - 25 and 26 - 49 This would make the playing ground a bit more even. I level mainly with pvp up to 50 then get my battle master gear and stop. its a grind, and very unbalanced... i see people using their cooldowns awfully, i see people with wrong rotations beating people because they have better gear... no thanks... too uneven for me... I will enjoy the 49 brackets and have fun... then PvE for my gear progression k thnx bai

I dont use weakening blast in my new hybrid... its an engineering lethality mix... the rotation was for my lethality build i have been running in the ops up to about 2 days ago. also I am not keeping up with the Power-tech who is equally geared either... yet he keeps up with the BH marauder... see the problem here lol i wouldn't mind not keeping up to people that way out-gear me but i cant even keep up with a power-tech who still doesn't even have his mainhand weapon.

I appreciate the suggestions, I am at work so i will try to put out my rotation best i can out of memory I am full rakata geared. as is our PT the marauder is full BH, so there is a difference there (yet the Pt can keep up, its silly) My Main rotation: corrosive dart weakening blast (regens a bit of energy) Corrosive grenade Power Relic or Crit relic depending on energy needs Cull acquire target Series of Shots Laze Target Snipe Cull Corrosive Dart Weakening Blast Corrosive Grenade crit adrenal Cull Series of Shots etc Any suggestions Would be of help. I use snipe only when laze target is up, i save my crit relic for energy needs also whenever my orbital strike is available i am using that as well... I have created a new hybrid build that i feel can increase my dps but MoX parser is no longer working. so if you know of any other parsers i would be appreciative.

fraps or it never happened. gear is a huge difference, with that small amount of gear there is no way in hell you are gonna win matches, unless your team is full of rifleshot nublets. I plan on playing both games because i like the PvE in Swtor but the pvp is lacking ESPECIALLY since i have played WvWvW in GW2.... it was soooo awesome. HUGE battles, no lag, objectives, keeps, etc. Yes you can open world PvP in this game, and get a ban for it. (yes it happens) In GW2 you enter the zone for it and its HUGE!.... aw man just thinking about it makes me sooo excited for release!

yeah PvP is perfectly fine... Its ops that i see the huge disparagement. I love my sniper in pvp. hate its guts in PvE

I have been trying spec after spec, trying to get the same damage numbers as a PT and marauder in HM denova, and i cannot pull it off... By this i mean literally 200k more damage at the end of the fight. Are you having the same problem? if not, what spec are you running, rotations, ect. This has been bugging me. During the fight with Toth/Zorn one of the melee always has to come help the 2 snipers. I am running lethality as it is the easiest sustained damage with the movement we have to do. I put up about 1300 dps and have no energy issues. I feel i have the rotations down. any input would be of help. I hope i am not the only one seeing the huge gap in damage output from the sniper compared to PT/Marauder.

I really do like the PvP in this game, what i am upset by is the lack of any sort of balance, AND no open world pvp! i mean cummon... that is the main reason i will play GW 2 is because of the huge 50 v 50 v 50 battles that are plain and simply..... EPIC! and the keeps and castles and game bonuses to PvE by playing WvWvW. this game has no resemblance of open world pvp. its my biggest gripe.

sorry i have refrained but the fact this has gone this far is ridiculous... its called situational awareness... if you are so unaware that you cant tell the difference between grass and snow... then there's your sign.... open your eyes... its a whole heck of a lot easier to say grass or snow. they are night and day different. and guess what... they mean the same gosh danged thing whether you are playing pubs or imps.... you know to go to snow when someone yells it out, and same thing with grass... you don't even have to look at the map, you just go... cause it is SO FREAKIN EASY. /thread (i cant believe this is even an argument.) AND when people on my server use east west... i actually just stand there and type... is that snow or grass? cause its just all around better... just sayin