I've been here since day one. I said I would NEVER quit the game, this 6.0 crafting crap has finally driven me away. My husband stayed to play with me. We will stay until after Christmas then leave. I am so sad that the devs did this. Then they will say MMO's are dead. No, you kill them.

Initial launch subscriber, both me and husband back after leaving in disappointment a week after KotFE was introduced and going through it once. Just our opinion, but we found this Chaper 10 to be pretty poor in just about any way one would judge it.

BW/EA is in a box. They did the "least" of all possible expansions with the goal of bringing in new people at the expense of the old. Older long term players were going away because lack of content. Part of the "least" was recycling old content that would be new to incoming players. The companions were, IMO, made OP for two reasons. First, for those staying the new play would be the grind of been there done that. OP companions would help them go through the old stuff quickly. The grind would be more tolerable if it did not take as much effort or so it was thought. Second, the new players would be inexperienced and not have the legacy strengths needed, To keep them from quitting quickly out of frustration OP companions would be the solution. I think, my opinion only, that the OP companions were purposefully made that way and the simple calculation was that although some would leave because of them more would stay. It had nothing to do with game design as we think of it, but rather stemming the pre launch stream of unsubs and getting more money by the route of the new players. That is the real "metric" applied. But, EA/BW miscalculated with respect to player retension. Although some left because the post 4.0 content made Candy Crush look challenging, that was not the problem. People were running through the grind to quickly. As I think about it, the expansion was six or seven hours of "content" and people were grinding the make work stuff faster than anticipated. Yet, there is a little less than a year left and it only offers one hour a month of new content starting in January and then stretched out over future months. I think it was clear that people were (perhaps slowly at first) leaving the game because there was nothing to do. So came the nerf. It's purpose, IMO, was singular and that was to slow play down to make the content last longer. To stretch the "non content" content as long as possible. But that had the unanticipated (silly them) affect of making everything a boring drudge. It increased the difficulty level beyond tolerable for many players. People who did not like the OP companions had left and those who did were feeling the grind and the difficulty, to them, of the new challenge. I think that the "buff the nerf" announcement is not a reaction to the concerns of the beloved players. Rather it is an attempt to stem the tide of unsubs. EA/BW is trying to find the sweet spot where players who liked the OP companions will be mollified while still slowing down progression through content to make what they have provided last a longer time and thus keep the sub fees keep coming. I started with EA/BW is in a box because I do not think that sweet spot exists. There is just not enough meat on the content bone to satisfy most appetites no matter how it is cooked.

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Interesting, listened to first few minutes and the BW person did not know that equipment vendors were removed. Caller had to explain to him.

Went back to WOW after five years away. Still the same game I quit for many reasons, but am enjoying it for the time being. No lag, no ability delay, swimming, gathering (gives XP when you gather), weather, and more. No groups of the same three birds flapping their wings as they stay in place. I have a Priest up to 40 now and a Paladan at 31 and am enjoying myself. Not sure how much I will like it when I get up into the higher levels and expansions since I left, but good now. I left SWTOR after playing since early access at initial launch and unsubbed a week into 4.0 because, just my opinion, it was horrid. I'm getting a kick reading about the companion nerf.

We deleted our billing info. Better to be safe, besides as unsubbed they are not entitled to have my billing info.

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Interesting. I just checked the auction house and indeed I could buy a token. I am not sure how it worked with me since I was not able to get in game (no sub), but you may be correct. It looks like the buying of CM items for CCs and then putting them up on the GTN for credits. I wonder if BW will start doing this since as you say, someone pays for the sub. I can't see doing this again because if I want to play the game I have no problem paying for it (very lucky unlike some). I also probably would not get into the grind of subbing to earn gold so I can sub. It's funny to me how the economic model has eclipsed the quality of the game in importance.

Over play from early access at game start to last week, I never noticed gold sellers having a problem jamming my mail and continually soliciting in chat.

Don't know what the heck you are talking about (do you). I had an old sub that had plenty of gold when I unsubbed years ago. At the loading screen it asked me if I would like to come back and use the gold in my account to get 30 days. No real money passed hands and no one sold anything at the auction house. I was not even in game when the transaction occurred. I don't know if this is recurring. But it seems like a good way to bring old players back for a "trial" 30 day sub. I have no illusions that if I want to continue my sub, I will be able to do so by trading more gold. Rather, I likely will have to renew my sub in the traditional way. PS - The cost for the 30 days was a little over 37K gold which is not that much; especially when compared to the amount of gold I had when I left WOW. I had well over 300M credits when I unsubbed last week from SWTOR. Charging credits for 30 days would not bother me that much at all although I dislike 4.0 so much, I have no intention of coming back. You never know do you. PPS - No you cannot have my stuffz or creditz.

I just did that. It is neat and I have 30 days free play now. Not sure if WOW is the answer for me, lot of reasons why I left it a few months after Cata, but it is worth giving it a free try. At the very least, I am much enjoying having abilities fire off (within my ability to perceive) the moment I hit a key. One thing I am getting a kick out of is that my SI is actually a clone of the WOW Priest class. I am even using the same rotation and key binds. I think the constant and often put advice to unsub from SWTOR if you do not care for the expansion is excellent.

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One big disappointment was that my wife and I like to play together and for a large part of KotFE we could not. We also found some areas where we could severly bugged out if we group.

Leaving the rest of the debate sit, the answer is no. I have been looking around but have not found one that sounds appealing yet. Since I unsubbed today, I may try a few out and see how they hit me.