Giant Open world planet with different events (daily) huge structures to fight on for world pvp large sacle world pvp some with dailies attatched with working mechs and ships, guild structures we build with resources... smuggle goods for credits player bounties etc we want war ... and open space pvp get it off the rails make us fight over resources open this game up save it!

If you notice Kreas 1 on 1 pvp he/she doesn't tell you how Tanks measure up because 1 on 1 we will get beat overwhelmingly most times elemental damage still destroys us where the other tanks mitigate all damage with their Def cd 's our self heal is lower than anybody's and the pure fact we have to run away and take guard of f and find a hiding place to heal up while the others heal in your face is bupkiss its not in my nature , to run away in any fight unless it's a lost cause . We are result of BW catering to PVE ...blah blah blah there are more pve'ers I've heard it all but there is a reason there are no PVE only games in the top 5 as where there are many pvp only games that are succesful.... I'm done till they fix shadow tanks plain and simple. I do so much more with my Guardian but he is not what chose day one to play the fact is they changed it on many of us it didn't start this way and yes I'm talking about self healing and the many nerfs we sustained in the first 3 balancing patches.

This is already stored away in some files I'm sure and it would make Shadows feel a little bit more like a balanced Melee force user!

Being balanced for synergy is B.s when the other tanks can both be self sufficient and still have synergy...

Then again most pvpers are on a pve server friggin backwards *** mentality

So gear so you can fight in a controlled environment. Sounds great. And sin tanks are saying Dv should be nerfed ridiculous. It isnt non sense tank is ish on his own...Los and let your guard go to waste that sounds like a great tank... Los is a **** move

Nice numbers but the heals in that WZ say it all those numbers are only possible with 2 pocket healers ,healing in the millions now go down to tattoine and fight wpvp against equally geared tanks and for that matter any class you will be fine for a few minutes but your force will tap out and marauders juggs pt and even healers will own they just need to get through your initial attack and def rotations why do you ask? Bubbles and self heals(which we had) which all classes have one or both....a tank LOS' ing is just plain sad and not an ability. ..that you even have too LOS says it all. Wpvp will make you change your mind quick. You are the only tank that needs pocket heals to get life back in a 1v1 scenario doesnt sound great to me. Ridiculous I cant even log on right now because of the inequity .

Blaming. Big fish in a little pond thats all...Ive stuck with my spec through the good and the bad as far as pvp its been bad since 2.0 ... I do just fine... Im salty about things because its all about pulling together now that its too late when half the people on here added to the servers demise. Ill keep coming back pile on me we can go back and forth till this game dies makes me want ti fight back harder... Nobody will make me back down !

For pvp I have kept the original 2 peice bonus 10 sec off Spike...for pvp its a must...we can barely heal we have the worse self heals in game Drr is trash for pvp so being able to cc more often with 5% extra damage is nice with Our rotation since it is clunky so a spike I can use more often makes it much more smooth and epic feeling.

No they stopped queing because of win trading and the **** talking was to discouarge people from effing up their free meal ticket.

Dude she isn't going to date you, white Knight is not a class in this game!

The reason it was so bad the first couple seasons as far as trying to shame people out of RWZ was that the win trading had to be established . I guarantee thats why certain people were trying to keep it small and contained And Ironically this last season since they cracked down on win trading all of the sudden people are telling people to join ranked and how the server sucks I just found it Ironic. I did my job and still was told to not bother I fought with the big mouths till I just said screw it when they were losing for their buddies and I knew I'd never get a chance at the rewards it wasnt the ish talking, I can handle that it was the cheating .I did play with you a bit in season one and you were cool and gracious but I got on here a few months ago and saw you spouting elitist B.S and it really stuck out because my experience with you has been cool the few times Ive played with you and my point is the biggest talkers in the game play the obviously strongest specs you dont see alot of shadow tanks or mercs talking ish. Has nothing to do with being a baby it has too do with when win trading was for the special ones the rest of us had to put up with it while these people were obviously cheating. Im just saying these people ruined it .

They massively boosted our armor after knocking it down by 50% a patch after the Self heals were removed from patch before and they still didnt bring our Defense up to 2.0 levels . If pve is your thing Shadows and *** are good from what I hear. But in pvp you are just a meat shield with no real way too fight back. You will have the least healing numbers damage and all the tanks can absorb what you can so If pvp is your thing go with PT or Jugg. Aleanis and KBN will tell you were are fine in PVP with numbers that dont translate in PVP take it from some one who has to deal with it . We are bottom of the barrel unless we have a big group around us I my self like the option of being able to win when Im on my own but every patch seem to make that a dream.

Yes and this awesome change to self heals destroyed us in PVP and any 1 v1 encounters you might have on planets....If you are on a pvp server 1 v 1 matters in before misinformation begins.

Im not going to respec to FOTM Shadow. I already play Rogue on WOW so I get my pure DPS fix there I like how tank works in this game but with the help of PVE'ers on here we have been relegated to the worst 1 v1 spec of the game ... ANd if you are on a PVP server this matters!

This is for people on pvp servers it's been established this is a solo player game for the most part and most of us do our planet side things alone... 1 v1 matters this is my point Ok if you have all tanks 1 v1 each other will the shadow win either of the other tanks What class can shadow tank 1 v 1 As a pvper none of us want to be a class that can only assist and as a man and how we are wired we would not be cool knowing the whole population of the earth could kick our butt so why would I be ok in my fun and competetive time to accept this too I Just fought a sniper and I couldn't do anything I hit him with my whole arsenal he was the tank not me and me a tank got burnt down quick in open world and 2018 exp I wont accept this . Ive seen healers win 1 v1 and I have seen Jugg and pt tanks own I am the only shadow tank I know of who is active outside the fleet .. we were well represented when we were considered op now we are bottom barrel and hardly represented. Remember Im a pvper on a pvp server I do not need a pve'res perspective .. Shadow needs self heals and or more burst or better DRR system atleast when facing other players. If you are a man and state the game isnt about 1 v 1 I know you dont believe that nor will I believe you!

This is for people on pvp servers it's been established this is a solo player game for the most part and most of us do our planet side things alone... 1 v1 matters this is my point Ok if you have all tanks 1 v1 each other will the shadow win either of the other tanks What class can shadow tank 1 v 1 As a pvper none of us want to be a class that can only assist and as a man and how we are wired we would not be cool knowing the whole population of the earth could kick our butt so why would I be ok in my fun and competetive time to accept this too I Just fought a sniper and I couldn't do anything I hit him with my whole arsenal he was the tank not me and me a tank got burnt down quick in open world and 2018 exp I wont accept this . Ive seen healers win 1 v1 and I have seen Jugg and pt tanks own I am the only shadow tank I know of who is active outside the fleet .. we were well represented when we were considered op now we are bottom barrel and hardly represented. Remember Im a pvper on a pvp server I do not need a pve'res perspective .. Shadow needs self heals and or more burst or better DRR system atleast when facing other players. If you are a man and state the game isnt about 1 v 1 I know you dont believe that.

We need to be reworked

We need our Original self heals brought back and vamped ...I am not even asking for anything new

This is for people on pvp servers it's been established this is a solo player game for the most part and most of us do our planet side things alone... 1 v1 matters this is my point Ok if you have all tanks 1 v1 each other will the shadow win either of the other tanks What class can shadow tank 1 v 1 As a pvper none of us want to be a class that can only assist and as a man and how we are wired we would not be cool knowing the whole population of the earth could kick our butt so why would I be ok in my fun and competetive time to accept this too I Just fought a sniper and I couldn't do anything I hit him with my whole arsenal he was the tank not me and me a tank got burnt down quick in open world and 2018 exp I wont accept this . Ive seen healers win 1 v1 and I have seen Jugg and pt tanks own I am the only shadow tank I know of who is active outside the fleet .. we were well represented when we were considered op now we are bottom barrel and hardly represented. Remember Im a pvper on a pvp server I do not need a pve'res perspective .. Shadow needs self heals and or more burst or better DRR system atleast when facing other players. If you are a man and state the game isnt about 1 v 1 I know you dont believe that.

My point is DPS has better Defensive cool downs than shadow and Assas tanks...DRR is crap for pvp. I am very secure that shadow tanks that pvp feel the same. watching juggs heal in your face or when you almost have them dead is infuriating and finishing with well over 100k in heals in wz in heavy armor is ridculous . I have a guardian I am completely aware of their defensive cool downs. The small heals that came from harnessed shadows would compliment a weak DRR system (in pvp)

I remember playing Ranked in season one and all people did were complain about bads and tell people not too even que. I play shadow tank and I had absorbed well over 100k in damage on a few occassions and I even got lambasted .. so it has come down to people playing the OP classes getting a false sense of superiority and want to protect their precious ELO in solo ranked... This attitude killed it on JUngma Ranked pvp . It wasnt that long ago a sage with athe nameZek-al anal I guarantee he/She would not be talking ish when sages were bad ( I forgot how to spell it) was calling people" bads" on here and not too que...Selfishness killed Ranked....

PT has bubbles and heals.marauder has bubbles and heals, guardian has bubbles and heals,sorc has bubbles and heals ,agents have bubles and heals.. we have 200% chance to avoid force and tech yet most classes burn theough it like its not even there and I dont notice anything happening from the ranged bubble the sheild doesnt proc enough to matter in constant battle. Our burst is crap descent damage is nothing with out burst because most classes heals off set just enough to draw out fight... we need our harnessed shadow heals back

we need our self heals back DRR does nothing for pvp I'm so tired of keeping my rock belt up through my rotation ,I do a good job keeping it up . I have a shdow in mostly Dps Ive replaced some of the tank mods and kept the 2 tank set gear armors from last season for 10 sec off spike. On my assassin I'm in all tank gear 100% anyone guess which one last longer...neither the one in more dps gear is just as tanky. plus I have gear from last season and the shadow does better in wpvp because of the armor pieces from last season. DR from Harnesses shadows is crap at 3 stacks if anything we need the stacks and self heals marauders with pally bubbles and guardian healing in your face and placing 2nd in heals in wz is ********!

we need our self heals back DRR does nothing for pvp I'm so tired of keeping my rock belt up through my rotation ,I do a good job keeping up I have a shdow in mostly Dps Ive replaced some of the tank mods and kept the 2 tank set gear armors from last season for 10 sec off spike. On my assassin I'm in all tank gear 100% anyone guess which one last longer...neither the one in in more dps gear is just as tanky. plus I have gear from last season and the shadow does better in wpvp because of the armor pieces from last season. DRR from Harnesses shadows is crap at 3 stacks if anything we need the stacks and self heals marauders with pally bubbles and guardian healing in your face and placing 2nd in heals in wz is ********!