Thans for the suggestions. I already did all the content prior to SoR. So ther are only dailys left for me.

I returned to the game yesterday with a 7 day sub after a 15 month break. I got the SoR exoansion because i wanted to play it now and did not care that it will go free in 2.5 months. Since i alreadxy did all the FA missions 15 months ago i did not get any exp for them. And here is where the problem starts. I am now done with Yavin and am only 58.2. I am not not in a guild and i am not using boosts. And beisde 2 bonus quests and repeat dailys i did everything there is to do on both Rishi and Yavin. Now i have to grind dailyes for a couple of days just to contnue the story on Ziost. And since i hate grinding i am already turned off again. What a shame.

Never mind

I hear so many people say that the dailys are hard. I think the difficulty of the quests and the objectives are in line with everything else. But the zone got such a high mob desity that it takes you close to forever to get where you need to go. Oh and on the imp side the launch keys are a big problem. Just remove like 30% of the trash (give us a way to reach the quest objectives without fighting every few seconds) and let other mobs drop the launch keys. After that the zone is fine.

The area is just plain annoying. It is not challanging. Well you could argie finding a way around the place without grabbing aggro every 5 meters is a challange. But i have to say the heroic quest area is really well done. One of my fav areas in the game. In the end Section X is not worth my time.

Dread Guard Power clicky is better than War Hero static power but you can only use one. As far as i understand Dread Guard proc relics should be better than a War Hero relic. So if you want to go for max dps you should get both a proc and a clicky Dread Guard relic.

Just do all the dailys two or three times and you should have enough or close to enough money to get HK-51 on a second toon. It is rather easy to get money in this game even tho i agree it is not the most entertaining thing in the world.

As a subscriber i think the FTP model is too restricted. Limiting Basic UI Functions is just not the way to go.

We did it with 3 healers and a powertech dps. You can even skip the first boss. Bt i can see people having problems with HK and Revan if they never done them before. The rest of the FP is a cake walk even for new players.

I can't believe this thread even exists.

The FTP system of TOR is not my kind of system. If i gonna play a FTP game i will stick to EQ2. There i can actully do all the content all the time as much as i want without having to pay. I might not succeed because my armor is restrichted, but you can unlock gear there for such a small price that you hardly notice it. I can play that game for less than 5$ a month if i watch out what kind of cosmetic stuff i buy. Sure i have to buy expansions like everyone else (first 6 expansions are free) but every new area that gets added to the game in between is free (if i own the expansion that this new area is added to). The limnits are still there and make it not as easy as the subscribers have it but they are not as backbreaking as they are here. If i want to play this game the way it is intended to be played i would have to pay more than the subscrptions fee every months. While i do understand they want to make money. They will not be able to get those people that want to play a little and not pay a subscription. The FTP crowd will most likely play the story and then abandon the game again because you have to pay too much to keep playing. Consmetics, bagspace, xp boosts and character slots is where the money is at. People don't see cosmetics as something that is a cost to play the game. The restriction this game will put on the FTP crowd will turn them away. Just the other day i was talking to some of my friends and told him about the restrictions and he said that he will just play the story and then stop. He will not even spend one cent on this game. Why? Because he realizied it is a massive money grab. This will get TOR an even worse reputation. The FTP crowd is not as stupid as BW and EA might think. And just for the record i will still be subscribed because i like this game. Currently i play for 11€ a month and that is just a little over as much as buying one pass each for FP, OPS, WZ and Space. Let sjust assume you like doing OPS. If you want to raid every week you will have to pay 960 CC. If 100 CC are 1$/€ why should i not subscribe? Now you say thats the point you should subscribe. But that is the flaw in BW's and EA's logic. The FTP crowd will see this as a subscription cost. And if they did not like to pay a subscription back then why do you think they will like to pay one now? Sorry for the rambling but that was what i was thinking about.

Thanks for the vid. Once the shop goes live i will have to investigate if it might be cheaper in the long run to go FTP and buy unlocks.

Question is if this is actully gambling in some countries / regions. I rememebr the cash servers back in EQ2 where they had a mini game diabled since you could buy in game currency with real money and then use that currency to gamble for more. If someone goes on and tells the EU or some states in the US about this they might have to shut the game down. One can only hope BW and EA had their legal guys on this matter.

The simple answer is no. If you don't want to participate in endgame content on a large scale then you do not need to subscribe at all. Once the level cap increases that might change but until then you can do everything that you discribed without a sub.

If it is 5 bucks a week you will see many people just play the story and never touch the game again. With FTP you want to hook someone to spend money on stuff they do not really need. You will not hook someone to a game when you offer them a subscription if they avoided this game because of a sub in the firts place. If it would be a one time unlock people would be more inclined to buy it. You will get the most money on character slots, character transfers, gear and mounts because that is something that even subscribers will pay for and then you got back and cargo space that ftp players will pay for. Another thing that they should do is limiting the money a player can carry. That alone is a huge incentive for some players to get a subscription. Have to say i really like the SOE model for EQ2. It limits my backspace, my money, i have to buy gear and spell unlocks but i can do whatever i want in that game. And as long as i am ready to raid i will have to pay less a month. There is the urge to buy some of the cosmetic stuff but so far i was able to resist most of the time. Well i have to buy the new expansions as well otherwise i would not have access to the new content. http://www.everquest2.com/free?locale=en_US there you can take a look at all the limitations you will find in EQ2. Remember that since Sentinel's Fate 2 more expansions have been released you will have to buy if you want to have access to that content. And the third is about to get released.

Stuff that works pretty well on EQ2: Class Unlocks - Only have a limited amount of clases available. For example just the Sith Warrior and Imperial Agent on the Empire and Jedi Sage and Trooper on Republic. Since there are not so many classes perhaps limit it by advanced classes. The other classes could be unlocked in the cash shop. Race Unlocks - Only have a limited amount of Races to chose from. Just two examples that work very well in EQ2. Back and Cargo Space restrictions will work. Gear restriction will work, EXP boosters will work. Unique gear and mounts will work. Sell restriction on the GTN should work. Limiting access to WZ, FP and Raids will not work. People will just see the big price tag they will have to pay each week to play something and will not spend it.

Tattooine, Alderaan and Hoth. They don't feel like a maze and offer some exploration.

It is pretty simple. Charge me for a content update and i will leave. Charge me for a true expansion and i will pay. This is pretty much the CoD problem. Suddenly it was ok to pay for map packs. Something we always got for free we had to buy now. Glad i never played CoD ^^

Pleas give Powertechs the ability to use Blaster Rifles in addition to Blaster Pistols. You can even keep the loot drops all Blaster Pistols. This way we could just switch out Mods and start feeling more like Boba

So when i pick up the main quest again it will auto complete the ones i have already done ?

The Quest with the Laser bugged out for me. I could click everything but nothing happened. So i deleted the quest and wanted to start it again. Now i can't get the quest anymore. Well done Bioware!!!

There are many things about this game i like. I love that Questing feels like something worth doing. Voice adds so much to questing. I can't belive how much it adds. Flashpoints, Operations, even Space Missions and the different Warzones are all well done. Some of the best instances i have played. But what i miss most is fluff. -Planets are too small to just wander around and explore. Only Alderaan, Hoth and Tattooine felt kind of open to me. -Ther are no activities outside normal gameplay. Something like a Dejarek Table or Podracing would go a long way. -No Housing. In EQ2 whenever i got nothing to do i was hanging out in my house and was decorating. It is just a relaxing feature that every MMO should have. Beside the fluff i miss free spcae combat. This is a Star Wars game afterall. Space Combat belongs here. While i am not a fan of tedious crafting i think this game needed something like it. Crafting in this game is the most boring crafting ever. A mix of the resource gathering of SWG and the actual crafting of Vanguard would have been awesome. The engine is just horrible.

1. Please specify the limited access F2P will have. What are the limits in detail. How much money can they hold, how many character slots, how many bank tabs, how much inventory space? What is the limit for WZs and FPs? Is there any limit in just questing on Planets? Please tell us the exact limititions a F2P playerw ill have so we can make an educated decision. 2. What kind of unlocks will we able to buy in the Cartel Market? Can i buy permanent access to Operations, WZs and FPs?

When i look at the Subscription vs. Free Features Chart all i can see is some vague information. What does limited access mean? Will F2P restricted from ranked warzones? Can they joind HM FPs? I would really like to make up my mind but with this little information it is really hard. The only information that is clear is that they will not be able to do operations.

Why are so many talking about 22 or even less active servers? Its 27 active servers. 12 in the US, 12 in Europe and 3 in Asia Pacific. At server merge around 3k players logged in for a heavy server close to prime time. Since servers still hit heavy nearly every day we can assume that those numbers are still correct. If we follow the 10% rule that would lead us to 810k subscribtions. I gues its even more because i belive that currently less than 10% log in at prime time. I would assume that 8 - 9% log in at the moment and that would lead us to 900k - 1012,5k So in conclusion 800k - 1000k subscriptions seems like a good estimation.