ITT: someone trying to present gearfarming based pvp system as a good thing.

2 scrubs who either never played daoc, the best pvp mmo out there, (in which case we should feel sorry for them) or they were horrible at it, got rolled all day err day and probably whined about "STRAFING" (in which case we should laugh at them). On topic these days daoc has the gearing system nicely done. You can buy artifacts and master levels with bounty points or glass that drops on powerleveling spots, dragon gear for dragon scales which you can farm solo with no problems and everything else you can buy off the auction house (including glass and dragon scales). Combine that with the fact that there is no binding items on pickup/equip and you have a magnificent system focused entirely on pvp. Too bad there is only around 5k subscribers left.

"farming medals" is a bad excuse for bad players. You can be top in medal count by playing the objectives. And yes OP, I know what you are talking about. 90% of the opposing faction players on my server are scrubs like that. Farming these horribles doesn't even remotely feel like fun. I'm not even playing premades anymore.

I love it how people are talking here about daoc in the past sense when that game with its 3k playerbase has better pvp than all current mmos combined together.

It takes OP 3 seconds to target, press interrupt and retarget his previous target. He is clearly at an advantage.

problem is, people should read your OP every 15 minutes because you edit it every time you realize your argument makes no sense.

And again you didn't argue against what I said, you just used another false analogy. Come back when you actually have an argument, cy@

Why should I say something new when you didn't argue against the fact that focus macro makes the game easier and less complex other than saying that the complexity removed by addition of focus macro is "artificial raising of the skill cap" which is not an argument at all? Writing a wall of text in which you say absolutely nothing is not supporting your arguments.

My argument is that it simplifies the game, which it does. Your argument was "it adds depth to the game" with an attached "targeting is artificial raising of skill cap" when you got in over your head.

Yes I missed that quote. Still it doesn't mean macros that you are asking for will be available, might just be simple things. That is not an improved system, it is a system that removes a mechanic from the game and makes it even more simplified than it already is. About clicking, what is there to adress? Do you want me to go in another direction saying something in the lines of "if we get macros which make the game easier why don't we just get AI bots to play the game for us"? Are you going to keep repeating yourself even though it has been already argued that macros you are proposing are taking away complexity from the game?

You got those two mixed up, focus macro is the artificial thing here, targeting multiple targets and using different skills on them is a normal thing, nothing artificial about that. And ofcourse it feels clunky to you when you never did that, you had the easy way of doing that so far which doesn't require much skill and speed. And no you couldn't use that argument, because this game is meant to be played with mouse and keyboard. Skills are assigned to keys by default (1-12). Now you claim that this game was not intended to be played without mouseover and focus macro, and that they already said that they are implementing it, yet you haven't backed that up with any quotes or links whatsoever.

Artificial? Are you serious? So apparently targeting people in a game is just an artificial way of increasing that games skill cap. If reaction time really isn't your problem (which I doubt after that post) but the buggy hitboxes don't you think then that the priority should be fixing hitboxes instead of implementing macros as a workaround?

Watch a daoc 8v8 video, preferably minstrel PoV.

Oh wow, just WOW. I mean all your comments were similar to this, but this takes the cake. Imagine, macros make the difference between good and bad players bigger. That is not only a big pile of BS but it's exactly the opposite of what the reality is. If a good and a bad player use macros the gap is smaller between them than it would be without macros, because macros nullify some of that advantage a good player has (reaction speed, multitasking etc.).

Yes, ofcourse. If you disagree with me you are a troll. Perfect reasoning for people in denial.

You are not supposed to kill two equally skilled enemy players 2v1 EVER in ANY game. In most games 2 equally skilled players will crush you without giving you a chance to do anything. Your are showing serious lack of logic in this thread.

First of all since you are so caught on interrupt, interrupt is instant, there is no queue. You interrupt instantly even if you are performing another action, the animation comes later. Taking that into consideration along with latency and reaction times it is really not that hard to target someone, interrupt, and retarget your original target.

How does this even make sense in your head? "macros only allow players to manipulate the fight more to their advantage" exactly, makes the fight easier. "a player using macros to sway a fight in his advantage deserves the right to be able to do so." ok for this I only have WAT?.

I was not replying to you, read the quote from my post. And saying it adds depth and complexity just shows how much in denial you are. No, do not state things YOU can not do as facts. It is not only possible, but not that hard to do either.

Great reply sir, lots of arguments. Go on tell me again how those macros don't make the game easier.

Mouseover and focus macros are made for people who are too slow and never learned to target fast and accurately. That is mostly due to their inability to multitask and/or their horrible hand-eye coordination. Those two macros DO make the game easier, do not lie to yourself. That being said, due to the fact that a lot of people come from that other game I wouldn't mind too much if those two options were implemented, even though it would simplify an already simple system. In case they do not implement it I suggest working on your hand-eye coordination, multitasking, accurate and fast targeting, anticipating damage and prehealing.

"competitive PvP player in WoW" made me giggle. Tee hee hee

>a lot of procs >names two You are not even trying.

Point? Wait you mean to tell me you had a point in that vague post? I liked this part You do not seem to understand the class/spec at all.

^ Let me translate that for you OP. "Hey baddie, I'm also horrible at playing vanguard. Wanna hold hands?"