What I really respect with your post is that you didnt moan TOR was not SWG. We have many WoW (blank) who moan about every little thing. Because WoW has it, TOR should. Then we get the "this game will fail because it doesnt have said feature that wow has" You on the other hand. are enjoying the game from BW, not trying to make it into an SOE product. Respect Its great to see new players enjoying the game aswell. Its a brilliant game, needs a few tweaks. But so for it out shines WoW by miles.

I play on a highly populated server. not in prime time. No issue groupng, and never had an issue grouping in all the other MMO I played not in prime time. As i know im not just the only none prime time player. There is many out there which fill in the gaps. LFD wouldnt effect this. as on all servers there is none prime time players all grouping up with each other none prime time player on there server. Yeh, the low population hinders this for some. But again, a server merge would sort this out. As it did in many other MMOs.

Every MMO... Thats a new one Question, when did xserver start. And when did MMOs start Just because rift and WoW have these systems, it doesnt mean every MMO has them, I hear a few f2p use it. but again, it doesnt make or break a game. Which is what you have been trying to imply throughout this thread.

Im wrong that the game wont fail without a x-server LFG tool. Riiiiiight!

You are 100% here. I never said any of the above is a doomsayer. Saying a game will fail because it doesnt have a said feature is. Which this thread is full of! If i want a feature. lets say x-server LFG. Im not gonna dissmiss server merges, which work. just because it eliminates the need for the feature i want. But when i start by saying "Server merges dont work. temp fix" This is doomsaying. Im basically lying to try and get what i want. Server merges work. FACT. this helps open world/questing/open world PVP/grouping/flashpoints ... While LFG tools only help the instances situation. Not once Have i said LFG systems wont get people in dungeons. I know it does do its job. But so does server merge. And much more compared!

Theres a difference from voicing ones opinions for having a feature. But it takes the mick when these people spout tripe to vaildate there claims " TOR will fail without x-server LFG". This is a doomsayer, all to presure a company lol. Instead of saying, without this feature i wont resub. This is a gamer with an opinion. Will the game fail without x-server LFG, not at all, you are all deluded if you think this, we have a history of MMOs behind us to prove these claims wrong. But hey, say what you gotta say to try and get your beloved feature. But dismissing systems (server merge)which has worked and still do just to get your feature.. Beyond funny

Whats wrong with a dev company creating its own game. If some players find this game is not for them. They should move on. This is gaming! This new idea of one game to rule them all is ..well ..lame. But yeh, the game will die if they dont do what a few what. Sure! You doomsayers do clutch at straws.

a lie is when someone says Server merges dont work - when they do

The new generation of gamers dont understand this concept. They feel that if another game had it in which they enjoyed. There new game should. They will make false facts up, say such things like. "the game is dying becuase of this missing feature" They will turn away other solutions just to get there invalid points made. Its a sad age of gaming. Just read back at some of these pages. "it took me 3 hours to get a group" Server merges will sort that. Then you will get somemore false facts to why server merges wont work. Even though dev companies for MMOs have been using server merges before half of these teens were born.

Kill the game, That depends on what you would class as killing the game. WoW at the moment is doing ok. has subs. blah blah blah but the server based communties have gone. Gone are the days of knowing people on your server, there classes and skills. Now its all about that one magic button. 2009, when MMOs really died. But many like myself knew LFD killed server communities, WoW became a lobby game. YAWN If you are playing an MMO, people shouldnt have to explain what communties do to a server. If you need to ask. thats your answer. you have no clue. But remember, Yoru beloved genre was built on the above... communties. the socalled grouping time has gone upto 3hours now guys. LOLOL This thread just gets better

To be honest, the monster is taking itself down piece by piece. No point getting in the way of that

100% bang on Hey, i might buy WoW as i hear it has a system which puts me in a group at the push of a button....yeh man, the LFD sure brought in the players. /endsarcasm LOLOLOLOL

add a number, to another number you will get a greater number. This is why its common law in MMO land, server merge. YOu will catch on soon, just get a few MMOs under your belt and you will be sorted. If server merges dont work. In your veiw. Why the hell do you think MMOs do them. Alot. the first thing they do to combat low population is to merge servers.

You cant use them in raids or PVP, this was known before the game was launched. Not sure where you expected to use your companion. OIpen world yes, questing, yes (ilum no) and crafting, this is common knowledge in the tor community. Other things might be in the pipe line further down the line

When you find me video source of X-server LFG system actually fixing server populations. Ill show you mine. But if you have played MMOs pre 2009. You would know Servers merges work and still do. Simple maths really. Take one number, and add it to another number, which creates an even bigger number. Maths might not be your strong point. But it is pretty simple!

Arh so we are back here. Like someone says, Is justine bieber great because he gets lot of views on youtube and sells loads of records. No, of course not. You even said it yourself. To his fans he is. But this is an opinion.

Ive bolded the part in which you should of stated "Your opinion"

And I bet you believe anything governments say ey. Remember the term marketting spin. Dont take everything you read from any company making money as correct. Bottom line Bliz covered themselves, yeh it could be true. but knowing Bobby Koticks ways. I doubt it.

Aparantly only the 2009 x-server LFD will fix populations. Well, according to a select few Hopefully server merges are coming. Having a full social server in an MMO is brilliant. Hopefully BW go down this route

I think they pushed the valor system giving high amounts so people can get ready for the ranked system. Normally in an MMO even PVP gear is a grind to get. In TOR they made a mistake IMO. it should of taken longer. PVP doesnt use a lock out system and should never use a lock out system. But it should have a balanced system with the badges. At the moment. TOR is giving PVP gear to people on a plate. Hopefully this will get fixed and the grind becomes WAY WAY longer.

Some of the issues is gear. flashpoint gear is not worth the time to grind when PVP gear is on par. I do the FPS for fun, not gear as whats the point when my PVP gear is better. This is why most people skip the FPs and just straignt onto normal mode raids.

I was just about to ask the same question lol So-called gamers today see the EA or activision flag and think they are the devolpment companies thewmselves. Jeeesh!

Its your opinion. We MMO fans love MMO combat. This is why MMOs sell. Because they have a player base who like the genre of game. Look at it this way, You have come into an MMO forum wanting the combat different (in your opinion is boring) and trying to change it to something else. If i want a 3rd person based SW shooter, I would go pick up SW battlefront. I wouldnt pick up a totaly different genre and expect the combat to be a 3rd person style combat system when the game is an MMO. Inovation is not changing a game genre to a another genre. Inovation is knowing when a game is not to your taste and moving on!

Oh dear Someones elses quality differs from the next person. Hence. CoD been rehashed year in year out. someone loves it as it sells **** loads. WoW over the past couple of years is just like CoD (in my opinion) it reshashes previous content, mechnaics and wraps them up in a new skin. but yet WoW has millions of players. The point is MMOs are now run by kiddies. They are the main crowd. Same as console gaming. Activision knows this, hence the rehash of cod and wow. Yes they were epic in there time. Cod1 on the PC..epic. But with a company like activision. Quality is in its past. In the past fews years, is WoW really chruning out Quality fresh content. No... But the subs are there like you say. but the minds of gamers have changed. They are younger, easier to please. The old MMO community which consisted mainly of adults if these were the prime audience still, Would WoW have as many subs. Not a chance, why, because the mature mind sees thruugh the hype and bull. A fresh skin wont cut it with most. Hell, Battlefield 3, technically a much better game. But MW3 over sold it by miles. Says it all with todays gamers. I wont take away what WoW did, Not at all. It ggave a great game(at the time) and got its subs. But the audience which it now holds. Meh.... pandas, kung-fu, Peekachu games. says it all really.

No offense, But do you know how many players each server can handle. No! only bioware know You do know server merges work right? and have done since MMOs started.