SentinalMasterWW Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 Just now, krackcommando said: my understanding of the ability is NOT that you need to catch players in it (there's a bonus if you do) but that as long as it's active, you get a flat 30% DR while stunned (stacking for every stealth you uncover). the problem as I see it is that the CD on the ability is 5 seconds longer than the scan lasts, so any sensible enemy (especially stealther) just has to open on you when your scan drops away. ofc, he can CC you 1 gcd out of the opener and thus prevent you from dropping scan again for the 30% DR. anyway, uncovering stealth isn't the selling point of the enhanced ability. unless I completely misread it. i only played with it for 2 or 3 weeks. but I'm pretty sure I have it right. Thing is though, is the moment you pop a stealther out, they just CC you, which while it gives the DR reduction while the probes are active. I'd rather have just have a flat out, 30% DR reduction while stunned 24/7. Even than I don't take Stealth scan anymore, its ok, but honestly, depending if I am maining Gunnery I'll take charged barrier, and for Medic/Assault Specialist I just go Sticky gernade for the snare. Even than I've played PVP for so long, I can usually pop stealthers out on Commando with just Hail of bolts. Stealth Scan unfortunately is just to niche of an ability, and the alternatives in that column are better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krackcommando Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SentinalMasterWW said: Thing is though, is the moment you pop a stealther out, they just CC you, which while it gives the DR reduction while the probes are active. I'd rather have just have a flat out, 30% DR reduction while stunned 24/7. Even than I don't take Stealth scan anymore, its ok, but honestly, depending if I am maining Gunnery I'll take charged barrier, and for Medic/Assault Specialist I just go Sticky gernade for the snare. Even than I've played PVP for so long, I can usually pop stealthers out on Commando with just Hail of bolts. Stealth Scan unfortunately is just to niche of an ability, and the alternatives in that column are better IMO. uh. hard disagree for arenas. uncovering combat stealthed ops, sins, and maras is really huge. without hyperbole, it wins the match. ofc you (any merc) would rather just have the flat 30% caked-in. personally, I don't mind tying it to SS. I do mind that there's a 2 gcd lag between when you can drop a new one and when the scan goes away. iirc, charged barrier requires power shot, tracer, and basic heal (for each respective spec)? it's not worth it for IO at all imo. makes more sense for grav spam I guess. I'd still run scan though. picking out players who try to combat stealth is in my dna. 😎 non-sequitur: I was using the SS abil in arsenal to created the biggest possible burst window before they changed the skill. I was using the blazing bolts tactical. got my 3 stack there. got the 5 stack grav on the target, then popped SS before popping gas and unloading the burst rotation in the gas window. I could only really do it in WZ while messing around cuz it's a lot of setup. but OMG. it melted bars. lol Edited September 7, 2023 by krackcommando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentinalMasterWW Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, krackcommando said: uh. hard disagree for arenas. uncovering combat stealthed ops, sins, and maras is really huge. without hyperbole, it wins the match. Arena's can be hit or miss. If there are a lot of stealth on the other team, sure Stealth scan is a solid option. 10 minutes ago, krackcommando said: iirc, charged barrier requires power shot, tracer, and basic heal (for each respective spec)? it's not worth it for IO at all imo. makes more sense for grav spam I guess. I'd still run scan though. picking out players who try to combat stealth is in my dna. I never take Charged Barrier on IO, Sticky gernade is what I use for IO. Even than once you get a general idea of how Stealth players work/think, Hail of bolts does the job, sometimes I can even get them out of stealth with something like thermal detonator or sticky gernade when they cloak out, not consistent though. 12 minutes ago, krackcommando said: non-sequitur: I was using the SS abil in arsenal to created the biggest possible burst window before they changed the skill. I was using the blazing bolts tactical. got my 3 stack there. got the 5 stack grav on the target, then popped SS before popping gas and unloading the burst rotation in the gas window. I could only really do it in WZ while messing around cuz it's a lot of setup. but OMG. it melted bars. lol I honestly kind of preferred the old SS rather than the new one, the 20% DMG or Heal came in handy numerous times and was why I ran it for more burst DMG or a quick Burst heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krackcommando Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 39 minutes ago, SentinalMasterWW said: Even than once you get a general idea of how Stealth players work/think, Hail of bolts does the job not even remotely. hob anchors you in place. all the other stuff. hey, to each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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