(Question) Making Revan in swtor

[felleto]

I have always liked the character of Revan. Lately I have been thinking about leveling a character that would follow (more or less) his decision making process and abilities, including his descent to the dark side and eventual redemption. 

The story arc that he would follow would be the Jedi Knight. Ok check.

As for his combat style that's when my question arises - I'm doubtful between creating a consular or Jedi knight. I like the stance of the Jedi knight I think it's more Revan like. However, Revan is known for having strong telekinesis and throwing objects around. That would make him a Consular (Kinetic combat)

After his descent into the dark side once again another doubt arises. Would Revan be more of a sorcerer or Juggernaut. I would say jug. because of force choke. 

So the options are Consular (telekinetic combat - stance is ugly but ok) and Jug. 
OR
Jedi knight (guardian Idk - for the stance, no telekinetic powers) and Jug. 

What do you guys think? Would love to hear some insight. Thank you 😁

 

[SteveTheCynic]

3 hours ago, felleto said:

As for his combat style that's when my question arises - I'm doubtful between creating a consular or Jedi knight. I like the stance of the Jedi knight I think it's more Revan like. However, Revan is known for having strong telekinesis and throwing objects around. That would make him a Consular (Kinetic combat)

No.  It would make him a *Shadow* without regard to questions of Jedi Knight versus Jedi Consular.  Or, indeed, if you've done enough of the right things in the game, Sith Warrior or Sith Inquisitor.

Caveat: Patch 7.0 disconnected fighting classes (more properly called "Combat Styles") from story classes (more properly called "Origins").

3 hours ago, felleto said:

So the options are Consular (telekinetic combat - stance is ugly but ok) and Jug. 

TK is not the same thing ***at***all** as Kinetic Combat.  TK is a Sage discipline, while KC is a Shadow discipline.

3 hours ago, felleto said:

What do you guys think? Would love to hear some insight. Thank you 😁

Mostly, I think that you should consider choosing your combat styles (you can have two) and your origin story independently, so long as you've already cranked through at least one origin story on a different character.

[felleto]

Maybe I didn't phrase my question correctly.

What I mean is if you would create a character that was supposed to mimic revan's abilities what 2 combat styles would you pick for this character. (Lore wise)

I was thinking sage for Jedi knight revan and jug for Darth revan. I know that revan never wielded a lightstaff so no shadow or assassin. And neither has he wielded two lightsabers at the same time. Which leaves (lore wise), Jedi knight revan being either a Jedi knight or sage and Darth revan a jug or sorcerer. 

How would you create your Darth revan in swtor meaning what combat styles would you pick to make him/her as close as possible to the original character.

 

[SteveTheCynic]

31 minutes ago, felleto said:

How would you create your Darth revan in swtor meaning what combat styles would you pick to make him/her as close as possible to the original character.

It seems logical (but not necessarily lore-compatible) that **Darth** Revan should be a **Sith** style, but in the end, I haven't played enough of either of the KOTOR games to offer any insight other than to clear up some epic SWTOR-terminology confusion.

[turbomagnus]

It can vary depending on how a person played KOTOR how 'their' Revan fought, but canonically Revan was supposed to be highly agile in combat, with a blend of Lightsaber skills and Force techniques including push/pull and (later on) Choke and Lightning. Agile, to me, says Ataru, which translates into SWTOR as a 'Combat Sentinel' specialisation since that's where Ataru Form is found as a passive, with a 'Lightning Sorceror' secondary Combat Style to represent his addition of Force Lightning after turning to (and returning from) the Dark Side.

Of course, as the saying goes, 'Your Mileage May Vary'.

[Anysao]

On 1/20/2023 at 5:22 PM, felleto said:

And neither has he wielded two lightsabers at the same time. 

 

This is actually incorrect. About half the depictions we see of Revan he is wielding two lightsabers at once. Famously, during the vision sequence in KOTOR 2, he wields a red lightsaber and a purple lightsaber. Likely symbolizing that he is one part Sith and one part Jedi.

 

That other half of the depictions of him, we see him wielding a single lightsaber: Purple as a Jedi, red as a Sith. Once he even used a green lightsaber.

 

For that reason, I would strongly recommend replacing the Sith Juggernaut choice with a Sith Marauder. During your Jedi Combat Style, I believe you really cannot go wrong with Guardian or Sage. Revan was an expert duelist, but he was also incredibly adept with Force Powers. I'm actually leaning toward Guardian, but for the sake of "fun" I say pick Sage, that way you can play two very different playstyles between your first and second Combat Styles. Plus... the Sage starts with a green lightsaber, as is befitting a Consular, so that would tie in nicely to that one time Revan used a green lightsaber.

[felleto]

Thank you so much for these lovely insights. Just saving those 3.800 cartel coins for the redeemed revan lightsaber now (damn why so expensive). Has anyone of you bought this lightsaber? Apart from the unique design (not so unique because I know there is another with the same model) is there anything that stands out with this lightsaber from the CM? Sound effects maybe?

What about Revan's Morals? I never played KOTOR nor KOTOR 2 and the info I know come from videos I watch (if they remaster it I would definately play it but I'm a graphics baby sorry, I like my pretty pixels). Revan was against the weakness that the Jedi displayed in order to go full on war with the mandalorians. That whole path of peace and innaction was a no-no for him. Was this that ultimately drove him to the dark side? I wonder. 

I really like to try to understand the moral code of the character I'm playing

[felleto]

On 1/20/2023 at 9:26 PM, turbomagnus said:

It can vary depending on how a person played KOTOR how 'their' Revan fought, but canonically Revan was supposed to be highly agile in combat, with a blend of Lightsaber skills and Force techniques including push/pull and (later on) Choke and Lightning. Agile, to me, says Ataru, which translates into SWTOR as a 'Combat Sentinel' specialisation since that's where Ataru Form is found as a passive, with a 'Lightning Sorceror' secondary Combat Style to represent his addition of Force Lightning after turning to (and returning from) the Dark Side.

Of course, as the saying goes, 'Your Mileage May Vary'.

I love these lore discussions, thank you for engaging with me! The choke and lightning part is the problem. I though he only had force choke not lightning. Again the experience I have come from swtor and some KOTOR videos. I guess the guardian stance is more beffiting for Revan and Darth Revan (with the lightsaber up close to his face) - Revan wouldn't be defense. He would be either vigilance or focus. His affinity with the force  would make him more focus, but the savagery of the strikes with vigilance is also appealing.

I could also go guardian (focus) then sorcerer I guess and use force stun as a force choke of sorts (not really ahaha)
 

2 hours ago, Anysao said:

For that reason, I would strongly recommend replacing the Sith Juggernaut choice with a Sith Marauder. During your Jedi Combat Style, I believe you really cannot go wrong with Guardian or Sage. Revan was an expert duelist, but he was also incredibly adept with Force Powers. I'm actually leaning toward Guardian, but for the sake of "fun" I say pick Sage, that way you can play two very different playstyles between your first and second Combat Styles. Plus... the Sage starts with a green lightsaber, as is befitting a Consular, so that would tie in nicely to that one time Revan used a green lightsaber.

I know Revan can be seem depicted as wielding both lightsabers. Maybe you are right. Marauder and sage does sound good. As for the specs would Revan be what kind of marauder? Sage I suppose he would be telekinetics. I would miss the guardian stance. T-T

PS. This little experiment just goes to show how limiting classes are in SWTOR. Why can't I substitute the appearance Electructe (sorc stun) for the appearance of force choke, let's say if my character is both a jugg and a sorc. Or force stun with force choke if I am both a guardian and juggernaut. Pebbles flying or force lightning if I'm sorc and sage. Let me change the APPEARANCE of some of the skills and keep them working the same (same range, same damage) just an aesthetic change, no rebalancing necessary. This reaaaally frustrates me! 

When combat styles came out I really thought I would be able to mix and match some sage skills and guardian skills maybe even the stance (I'm sorry but the sage and sorc stance doesn't work for me) 

Edited February 28, 2023 by felleto

[EanothBoba]

Make a dual-wielding variant and then complete the story of the Inquisitor to get force lightning as a heroic moment ability

[felleto]

Wow. This post has existed for a long time. After some digging I saw that revan (in KOTOR1 and 2) never double wielded the two lightsabers. 

So I'm going with Guardian for light and sorcerer lightning for the dark. I think no force choke but force paralysis is basically the same. 

[jordanrogers]

On 2/27/2023 at 6:59 PM, felleto said:

Thank you so much for these lovely insights. Just saving those 3.800 cartel coins for the redeemed revan lightsaber now (damn why so expensive). Has anyone of you bought this lightsaber? Apart from the unique design (not so unique because I know there is another with the same model) is there anything that stands out with this lightsaber from the CM? Sound effects maybe?

What about Revan's Morals? I never played KOTOR nor KOTOR 2 and the info I know come from videos I watch (if they remaster it I would definately play it but I'm a graphics baby sorry, I like my pretty pixels). Revan was against the weakness that the Jedi displayed in order to go full on war with the mandalorians. That whole path of peace and innaction was a no-no for him. Was this that ultimately drove him to the dark side? I wonder. 

I really like to try to understand the moral code of the character I'm playing

Revan saw people suffering and wanted to help them . the jedi council suspected the true threat had not yet shown and held back. he lead the younger jedi against the mandos and then discovered evidence of the Empereor. when he and his friend went against  the emperoer they were overwelmed and corrupted. returning to the known universe they tried to conqueor it until malack bretrayed him and the Jedi purged him. that leads to KotOR where you control him and decide his morals