raikme Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Story mode exists for a reason, it's literally meant for those who wants to see the story at their own pace. Story mode also gets the god-mode Droid, so new players will have an easy time going through the story. That said, Veteran and Master mode does not need conversations, we just wanna go through the flashpoint. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xordevoreaux Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Some may never see the story, then, if their first taste is vet mode for a given flashpoint, and then would resent having to play it again in story just to get the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaconik Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 How are we supposed to get DS/LS points? Eityher update your suggestion or this is outright against the 7.0 change of removing DS/LS selector... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katahn Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 7 hours ago, raikme said: Story mode exists for a reason, it's literally meant for those who wants to see the story at their own pace. Story mode also gets the god-mode Droid, so new players will have an easy time going through the story. That said, Veteran and Master mode does not need conversations, we just wanna go through the flashpoint. Or just relax if someone isn't spacebarring through conversations. Or don't run random groups and go with your guild. The utter disdain I see from some members of the community towards those who might be new or less familiar with whatever content is being run is depressing at times. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 19 hours ago, raikme said: Story mode exists for a reason, it's literally meant for those who wants to see the story at their own pace. Story mode also gets the god-mode Droid, so new players will have an easy time going through the story. Incorrect for the post-KotFE flashpoints. 19 hours ago, raikme said: That said, Veteran and Master mode does not need conversations, we just wanna go through the flashpoint. Shame about groups that want to farm alignment points and social points by farming bosses in vet BT and SLS, I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katahn Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 6 hours ago, SteveTheCynic said: Shame about groups that want to farm alignment points and social points by farming bosses in vet BT and SLS, I guess... Social points don't exist anymore. Solo farming LS/DS points in story-mode flashpoints is doable if one wishes. That said, if not-skipping conversations is a deal breaker I refer to my earlier comment of "run with friends/guildies only". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, Katahn said: Social points don't exist anymore. Huh. OK, I had misunderstood the change. My bad. In that case, I withdraw the comment. (But not the part about where the God Bot is *not* available in Solo / Story...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxSHOONYxx Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Katahn said: The utter disdain I see from some members of the community towards those who might be new or less familiar with whatever content is being run is depressing at times. Same could be said about how most people have seen the cinematics a million times since many of the fps are several years old. Is it fair to have to see it again for those players? No Is it fair for new players to be bullied into sapcebaring? No Then a middle ground or a way to make both sides happen has to be found. A good system that other game has is that when in a fp you have someone new to it which will obviosuly watch the cutscenes everyone else in the group gets more rewards from it and both sides are happy, new players get to experience the content fully, veteran players get more rewards and actually want to do content with new players for the extra rewards Edited November 12, 2022 by xxSHOONYxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliushorst Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Fine but only if we get Story mode for all flashpoints. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWho Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, juliushorst said: Fine but only if we get Story mode for all flashpoints. Or drop FP gear in the story flashpoints, then those people wouldn't need to run Veteran and Master modes. Even dropping 1 piece per flashpoint would be enough to draw quite a few of those "noobs" out of the harder content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xordevoreaux Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, DWho said: then those people wouldn't need to run Veteran and Master modes. Unless those noobs casuals wanted the achievements for completing content in vet and master modes and had a guild willing to help them do that. There's more than one incentive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWho Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, xordevoreaux said: Unless those noobs casuals wanted the achievements for completing content in vet and master modes and had a guild willing to help them do that. There's more than one incentive. True, in any case, content shouldn't be built around speed running. It would seem to be a better idea for those that want to spacebar conversations to put together groups in chat (or in a guild) specifically to do that. That way there is no question what is going to happen. Group Finder was not added to the game to encourage speed runs, but rather to bring together inexperienced players wanting to do the group content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arunav Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 6:00 PM, Katahn said: Or don't run random groups and go with your guild. This right here is your solution. BW doesn't need to change the entire game for you. Run FPs with friends or guildmates, who agree beforehand to spacebar any cutscene. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 12 hours ago, DWho said: Or drop FP gear in the story flashpoints, then those people wouldn't need to run Veteran and Master modes. Even dropping 1 piece per flashpoint would be enough to draw quite a few of those "noobs" out of the harder content. Some FPs don't have Story Mode *at*all*. What happens to the (minimal) story in those? That was @juliushorst's point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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