ilovedu Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 As my title says I feel like one of the worst parts about this game is stationary the entire game world is. I feel like my character is just moving around a museum rather than exploring a world. Not to mention all the planets feel like huge instances with guided hallways rather than open planets. The whole thing just feels so stiff and boring, does anyone else share these sentiments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etepbridan Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 What I hate is that there are gaurds, etc that aren't even NPC's. Just models standing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random_Axcess Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Not to mention all the planets feel like huge instances with guided hallways rather than open planets. This is the price you pay for a story based online game instead of a sandbox, SWTOR isn't so much an MMO as a multiplayer campiagn game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apom Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 MMO games are not known for creating interactive exciting environments. If monsters roamed, attacked randomly, and did anything other than stand there, most players would be confused, startled, confused some more. MMOS are by nature not designed for intellectuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RycheMykola Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 As my title says I feel like one of the worst parts about this game is stationary the entire game world is. I feel like my character is just moving around a museum rather than exploring a world. Not to mention all the planets feel like huge instances with guided hallways rather than open planets. The whole thing just feels so stiff and boring, does anyone else share these sentiments? I got to level 10 and went off the starter world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 This is the price you pay for a story based online game instead of a sandbox, SWTOR isn't so much an MMO as a multiplayer campiagn game. That makes no sense whatsoever. SWG for instance had nothing but, "mobs standing around doing nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovedu Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 I got to level 10 and went off the starter world. I'm level 25 on my character and my friend is level 34, I've screwed around on his character aswell it's the same everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 MMO games are not known for creating interactive exciting environments. LOLZ Get back to me when you wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grammarye Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 The last thing most people want is anything to surprise them. This includes MMOs doing anything that WoW doesn't, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random_Axcess Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 That makes no sense whatsoever. SWG for instance had nothing but, "mobs standing around doing nothing." perhaps you should read the context of the quote I was replying to instead of trying to argue something that was not a part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovedu Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 What I mean is, in most other MMOs the mobs would atleast move around on a set path even if it was just in a very small area. However in this game the Mobs are always placed in the exact same spot every time and do not move at all unless provoked Another thing that struck me about this is that it's going to make the game very Botting friendly in the near future, since paths can be set and passed around between everyone since there is no variation in object location at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RycheMykola Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I'm level 25 on my character and my friend is level 34, I've screwed around on his character aswell it's the same everywhere Sure you did. If you really leveled up, there are NPC's walking around everywhere, you can evesdrop on conversations they have. Heck, even on Nar Shaddaa they have strippers dancing in bikini's and pole dancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovedu Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 The last thing most people want is anything to surprise them. This includes MMOs doing anything that WoW doesn't, it seems. Actually I don't mean to be "That WoW guy" but WoW does more of this than SWTOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinkyMike Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) MMO games are not known for creating interactive exciting environments. If monsters roamed, attacked randomly, and did anything other than stand there, most players would be confused, startled, confused some more. MMOS are by nature not designed for intellectuals. I really wish SWTOR borrowed some ideas from Rift one of my favoritest MMO next to this game and APB. Having an active alive world like rift in ToR and having monthly content updates like rift would be my dream come true /droool x.x inb4 nerdrage from fanboys due to mentioning another MMO. I Like Both Rift And SW:ToR And Play Both. Its my opinion deal with it. Edited December 30, 2011 by MinkyMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahl_Windsong Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Not sure which MMO's you have played but all the ones I have played, well except for Ultima Online which had roaming mobs, have mobs that dont know you are there unless you get to close...its an MMO thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apax Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 MMO games are not known for creating interactive exciting environments. If monsters roamed, attacked randomly, and did anything other than stand there, most players would be confused, startled, confused some more. MMOS are by nature not designed for intellectuals. That is completely not true and a poor excuse. There are plenty of MMOs that break this mold. This game should be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTornPanda Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 What I hate is that there are gaurds, etc that aren't even NPC's. Just models standing there. This kills me on the inside. I can't help but wonder why they decided to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grammarye Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Actually I don't mean to be "That WoW guy" but WoW does more of this than SWTOR Sorry, I was referring to the fact that most threads are about how TOR doesn't do X Y & Z from WoW, but if they copy the same stationary NPCs from WoW, oh the heavens are falling. For the record, I made a long post about this during beta testing imploring Bioware to add more patrols etc. and actually they have listened. It's not as much as I'd like, but it is more than was there before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grrl Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Please take your time and read my KEY 1 post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovedu Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 I don't think people really understand what I was talking about in this thread. I'm not saying there should be mobs that run around like chickens with their heads cut off. But they don't need to stand completely still. In other games the mobs will atleast pace around a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessik Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 As my title says I feel like one of the worst parts about this game is stationary the entire game world is. I feel like my character is just moving around a museum rather than exploring a world. Not to mention all the planets feel like huge instances with guided hallways rather than open planets. The whole thing just feels so stiff and boring, does anyone else share these sentiments? the mobs move around and patrol in my game... just like in swg... what do you want them to do? besides potentially creating more server lag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VorpalK Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I really wish SWTOR borrowed some ideas from Rift one of my favoritest MMO next to this game and APB. Having an active alive world like rift in ToR and having monthly content updates like rift would be my dream come true /droool x.x I hated RIFT for one reason. The CONSTANT mob invasions forcing you to stop what you're doing and go fight them. Nearly as bad as a PvP game. Not what I want in my ENTERTAINMENT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardSF Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 As my title says I feel like one of the worst parts about this game is stationary the entire game world is. I feel like my character is just moving around a museum rather than exploring a world. Not to mention all the planets feel like huge instances with guided hallways rather than open planets. The whole thing just feels so stiff and boring, does anyone else share these sentiments? Because if every mob in visual range aggroed on you, you'd be dead. And if there were so few mobs in visual range that you could handle them all, you'd be talking about how empty the world is. Further, the more moving figures you have in a region, the more lag there is, because the server has to do pathing and parsing for that many more models at a time. Trust me, you'd be ************ more about the lag than you are about the empty world. Sure, it's hilarious when I massacre three factory workers, and three others stand there 20 feet away and don't do anything. However, there's a lot of game design issues/reasons why this is so, and whining about it without offering a more effective mechanic makes you look petulant and foolish. If you think you can design a better game, do so. You're also factually incorrect -- there are quite a few wandering/patrolling mobs, including Elite types, and I've had to carefully duck/dodge them when moving through some areas. The cities have NPCs who are not quest givers but who engage in conversations with each other, which can be entertaining to listen to. Furthermore, the world is much more open and conducive to exploration than those of other themepark MMOs (cough Conan cough). STWOR actually rewards exploration and doing things without being told to -- I've discovered quests by wandering into areas on my own, or gained Codex entries by attacking monsters without being instructed to do so for a quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maduece Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Because the open zones are a copy/paste of the crapbag called warhammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bgiffo Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I've been jumped by roaming strong mobs so many times, I really wish I could punch the people who make these topics in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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