AdjeYo Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 At the very least Thundering Blast should work with supercrit for lightning, right now it'll consume a recklessness stack but gain no damage from doing so, which is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppinswtor Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) At the very least Thundering Blast should work with supercrit for lightning, right now it'll consume a recklessness stack but gain no damage from doing so, which is ridiculous They fixed that. To clarify for people, there are three types of crits. In order of potency, they are: regular crits, which inflict base damage plus crit percentage; autocrits, which simply add crit chance to the crit multiplier calculation; and supercrits, which are merely autocrits with extra crit percentage factored into the multiplier. As we all know, Thundering Blast is an autocrit as long as you have Affliction rolling on the target. Regular Thundering Blast autocrits will do roughly 110-120% extra damage depending on relic procs and critical rating. Recklessness provides an extra 60% crit chance, turning your Thundering Blast autocrits into supercrits that will deal 170-180% extra damage. For instance, Bubble Princess Fiona has a crit chance of 44% and a crit multiplier of 71%. Under normal circumstances, each attack has a 44% chance to inflict an additional 71% damage. Autocrits, however, deal additional damage equal to crit chance plus crit multiplier; in this case, 71% + 44% = 115%. For simplicity's sake, let's say her Thundering Blast base damage is 8000; this means her autocrits will hit for (8000*1.15) + 8000 = 17,200 damage. Bubble Princess Fiona gets FOTM Reroller Sorcalicious down to 15 percent health and wants to kill him with a big burst move. She pops Recklessness and casts Thundering Blast. But her Blast is already going to crit, so that extra 60% crit chance will be applied to the multiplier: 44% + 71% + 60% = 175%. It will do (8000 * 1.75) + 8000 = 22,000 damage.... ...except Sorcalicious sees Recklessness on the buff bar and pops his barrier while Thundering Blast is in the air. Fiona sighs and goes to pick on that PT in the corner. Edited July 19, 2017 by Hoppinswtor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caeliuxrules Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 They fixed that. To clarify for people, there are three types of crits. In order of potency, they are: regular crits, which inflict base damage plus crit percentage; autocrits, which simply add crit chance to the crit multiplier calculation; and supercrits, which are merely autocrits with extra crit percentage factored into the multiplier. As we all know, Thundering Blast is an autocrit as long as you have Affliction rolling on the target. Regular Thundering Blast autocrits will do roughly 110-120% extra damage depending on relic procs and critical rating. Recklessness provides an extra 60% crit chance, turning your Thundering Blast autocrits into supercrits that will deal 170-180% extra damage. For instance, Bubble Princess Fiona has a crit chance of 44% and a crit multiplier of 71%. Under normal circumstances, each attack has a 44% chance to inflict an additional 71% damage. Autocrits, however, deal additional damage equal to crit chance plus crit multiplier; in this case, 71% + 44% = 115%. For simplicity's sake, let's say her Thundering Blast base damage is 8000; this means her autocrits will hit for (8000*1.15) + 8000 = 17,200 damage. Bubble Princess Fiona gets FOTM Reroller Sorcalicious down to 15 percent health and wants to kill him with a big burst move. She pops Recklessness and casts Thundering Blast. But her Blast is already going to crit, so that extra 60% crit chance will be applied to the multiplier: 44% + 71% + 60% = 175%. It will do (8000 * 1.75) + 8000 = 22,000 damage.... ...except Sorcalicious sees Recklessness on the buff bar and pops his barrier while Thundering Blast is in the air. Fiona sighs and goes to pick on that PT in the corner. Priceless.. Thumbs ☝😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyBoy Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 A simple 2-4 % buff to each tick of force lightning will fix this spec (someone smarter can do the exact math). The spec will not have unreasonable burst (You will hardly notice such a small buff in PVP), the sustained dps will be brought in line with the other ranged sustained and it will not to stupid numbers from dot spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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