Jensaga Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 "need defense on... uhhhhh wait lemme open my map so I can tell which door is which to call it out" can we get a green door and a red door? something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themachinemann Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 "need defense on... uhhhhh wait lemme open my map so I can tell which door is which to call it out" can we get a green door and a red door? something. iif you're defending green door means they haven't capped, red door means they have. different colors isn't a bad idea, probably one for suggestion box. though there's more pressing issues to fix in game. you can call east/west, right/left or even "1 inc" or "2 inc" cause people should be able to figure out "hang on there's 6 on this side, he probably doesn't mean my side" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just use east or west, if people dont know their directions...well...then there is a bigger problem at hand xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikSunrider Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just use east or west, if people dont know their directions...well...then there is a bigger problem at hand xD The eternal problem, even. Might as well get them ready for real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just use east or west, if people dont know their directions...well...then there is a bigger problem at hand xD Sadly E/W confuses people on Voidstar. I wish I were making that up. See also, the guy who insisted on using E/W in ACW the other night: guard: "3 grass" newbro: "EAST OR WEST? Call out!" I wish I were making that up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilithfae Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Sadly E/W confuses people on Voidstar. I wish I were making that up. See also, the guy who insisted on using E/W in ACW the other night: guard: "3 grass" newbro: "EAST OR WEST? Call out!" I wish I were making that up too. I have called it E/W myself, though won't demand it be called that. Points for comprehension really. If they say E, go east. If they say grass, go grass. I also think it comes down to just knowing the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgamentorum Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) The problem with voidstar is the people think of facing north for east west instructions. But on the main map it is in reverse. For five years people call it left/ right with the gate being point of reference. East is right and west is left. Why make things complicated? Keep it simple it's typed commands to people who may not have English as their first language. Left 2, grass 4 mid 3. On the door thing not a bad idea would it be an improvement to say HUGE coloured banners above the door would be visually better and hopefully big enough for people to see? Edited March 1, 2017 by Purgamentorum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The problem with voidstar is the people think of facing north for east west instructions. But on the main map it is in reverse. For five years people call it left/ right with the gate being point of reference. East is right and west is left. Why make things complicated? Keep it simple it's typed commands to people who may not have English as their first language. Left 2, grass 4 mid 3. On the door thing not a bad idea would it be an improvement to say HUGE coloured banners above the door would be visually better and hopefully big enough for people to see? Honestly east and west should be standard. If someone says east, look at mini map, go east. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opaknack Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Sadly E/W confuses people on Voidstar. I wish I were making that up. See also, the guy who insisted on using E/W in ACW the other night: guard: "3 grass" newbro: "EAST OR WEST? Call out!" I wish I were making that up too. E/W confuses only confused people. Nothing is more clear as east and west. When someone cant find east or west on a map how the hell he turns on his computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I'm not arguing, just pointing out the sad state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCorazon Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I just always used L or R, in relation to how we are facing the respawn energy shield... granted sometimes people mess it up, they go the wrong direction if they actually face the doors. But that is so simple and basic ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opaknack Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) I just always used L or R, in relation to how we are facing the respawn energy shield... granted sometimes people mess it up, they go the wrong direction if they actually face the doors. But that is so simple and basic ... And here is the problem... The respawn spot changes every match and so LEFT becomes RIGHT. Edited March 1, 2017 by Opaknack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow_ Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) The objectively best way to call the doors in voidstar is crate/ship side, it's too bad it never caught on. No confusion related to orientation. But, to be honest, this another one of those situations where there's only 2 places to be so if you're not oblivious it should be rather obvious where you need to go if you see so much as a "need help" in ops chat. Instead of being the guy who sticks around to clean up a 6v2 for the scoreboard, be the guy who notices the obviously favorable numbers (and what that tells you about the other door) and rotates without needing his hand held and told exactly where to go. Edited March 1, 2017 by yellow_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banderal Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) ... if you're not oblivious... obvious... Isn't is interesting how little it takes to go from obvious to oblivious? Just two little letters. Edited March 1, 2017 by Banderal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieallknow Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 ok easy fix your know that place where youu come ouyt of on re-spawn whether on attack or defence go left or right from there its not (almost cussed) rocket science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jensaga Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 an easy fix would be to add different colors to the 2 doors. there is no reason not to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Adisa_ Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just use east or west, if people dont know their directions...well...then there is a bigger problem at hand xD This. How hard it it to realize direction NEVER changes, right and left, does. Literally take 20 seconds at the start of a voidstar in an offensive position (as that's where it is based and think..."west, east...okay" then defensive "west, east..okay" and never look back, easy as pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Adisa_ Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 And here is the problem... The respawn spot changes every match and so LEFT becomes RIGHT. Exactly, and west/east never changes. Basically it comes down to who played ranked 8v8's and who didn't, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jensaga Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 why is it unreasonable in your mind to change the color of one of the doors? what harm could it possibly do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groncho Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 why is it unreasonable in your mind to change the color of one of the doors? what harm could it possibly do? i agree one should be black and the other one not so black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastiano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I get allsorts of confused when people call 'East' I usually respond with "hey, sup" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uppen Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) North, East and West should always be used in voidstar. Cardinal directions are unambiguous, whereas left and right depend on your point of view. When a door is capped in voidstar it says in chat " The East/West/North bomb has 20 seconds until detonation". It does not say "The Left/Right bomb ... " So please stop using ambiguous terms like left and right to describe stationary areas on a map, and instead use the cardinal direction names given to map locations and the doors/bombs themselves. Edited March 2, 2017 by uppen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastiano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 North, East and West should always be used in voidstar. Cardinal directions are unambiguous, whereas left and right depend on your point of view. When a door is capped in voidstar it says in chat " The East/West/North bomb has 20 seconds until detonation". It does not say "The Left/Right bomb ... " So please stop using ambiguous terms like left and right to describe stationary areas on a map, and instead use the cardinal direction names given to map locations and the doors/bombs themselves. I disagree, left and right are fine and allow you to react in the quickest manner, as you should already be aware of your role, ie attack defence, people have been using right and left in sports for years effectively. I'll say using cardinal directions for 'the new one' or novare coast is fine, but voidstar I think good ol lefty righty works fine. But ofc you are entitled to your opinion (even though it's wrong) so fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uppen Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I disagree, left and right are fine and allow you to react in the quickest manner, as you should already be aware of your role, ie attack defence, people have been using right and left in sports for years effectively. I'll say using cardinal directions for 'the new one' or novare coast is fine, but voidstar I think good ol lefty righty works fine. But ofc you are entitled to your opinion (even though it's wrong) so fair enough So is this the left side of the map or left as you leave the spawn? Does everyone in the game know your definition of left/right or does it leave room for error? The simple fact is that Left/Right are open to more than one interpretation. East/West are not. The game uses East/West not Left/Right. Therefore my opinion is actually correct. So long as people continue to use left/right as calls there will always be confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastiano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) So is this the left side of the map or left as you leave the spawn? Does everyone in the game know your definition of left/right or does it leave room for error? The simple fact is that Left/Right are open to more than one interpretation. East/West are not. The game uses East/West not Left/Right. Therefore my opinion is actually correct. So long as people continue to use left/right as calls there will always be confusion. The game uses east and west because it's impartial, a spectator so to say. I shall explain again slowwlllllyyyyy If you are defending, everyone on your team and chat is defending, stand by a door and face the attacking team, any of the 2 doors is fine. If there is another door on your right, you are on the left door, if not then you are on the right one, git that? Good 😊 Attacking, run towards the doors, again someone may be defending so any door is fine, if there is another door to the left of the one you are trying to cap, you are on the right door! Also this is the right door for all of your team mates, if they argue, they are wrong. If there is no other door to your left then yes, you guessed it, congrats! You found the left door! I just made your gaming experience easier! You are welcome 😁 Edited March 2, 2017 by Eastiano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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