Amaranth Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 It is not an exploit and because of this i bet you none of the people who have gained from it get rolled back BioWare disagrees with you about it not being an exploit. But it will be interesting to see what they do (if anything). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyJeff Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Just to point this out- if people are using an exploit to level fast, it's a good thing that BW didn't open the floodgates and let everyone on at once. Now they have an opportunity to fix the issue before too many abuse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nex_Seraphim Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 To me, they are missing out. This game is about the Journey as much as the desto. But, I say good for them. If that's how they want to play, I hope they have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchyslick Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Seriously... Juyo has level 30 players already... First day!!! Also a bunch from 25-29... How the hell are these people leveling so fast... By the time the rest of us get online, they will be 50... Good job BW letting all the full time testers in on day 1. Not like they will know how to level fast and exploit or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullunit Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 who cares? it's not a race PVE is not a race, PvP kind of is. If one faction gets a leg up on the other then it would give them an unfair advantage. Personally, don't think it matters too much. if it is an exploit, folks using it will get banned, if not then they earned it. In 4 months of beta I didn't encounter any world PvP griefing until the late part of Nar Shadda, more so in Tatooine onward. The nature of MMOs is that we as players are also doing testing for events like this for them to hotfix. No biggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunovega Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Exploiters should be dealt with. No-lifers are just making a choice. I dont really care if they invest all their time into this game. That said, I dont know why anyone would want to fiendishly level as fast as they could the very first day the game is out. I have been looking forward to playing for a long time and plan on taking my time to enjoy the ride. how does getting to lvl 50 stop you from going back and doing low lvl quests you skipped? how does getting lvl 50 stop you from leveling up alts to see other story lines? getting to 50 fast means you have access to "everything" to play when and where you want, the ability to enter end game content, the ability to pay to do crafting to help your friends and the ability (in open world pvp) to bodyguard your lower lvl friends none of that stops you from "enjoying the game" at any pace you wish, it simply means you have access to more options sooner also note: many of us played "slowly" through our primary class roles in beta up through lvl 30ish already, we dont need to "watch" that story arc again, blowing our main class role up to 50 quick just means now we have time to kick back and enjoy the game at any level we wish freely i for one will rush 50 on my bounty hunter, having seen a good portion of the story arc anyway in beta. at 50 ill have teh ability to craft what i want when i want and than go play alts for "fun" whenever i want and still have my lvl 50 on call for guild needs, raids, pvp, or whatever even people who rush 50 can be casual players, they are simply more interested in having all their options available before slowing down to enjoy other aspects of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullunit Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) I said it in other post but why in a story driven game like ToR would you wont to be lv 30 in a day, you miss haff the game whats the point? So of these folks may have been long term beta people. In 4+ months of beta I had to redo my characters quests at least 3 or 4 times until they stopped doing wipes. As story driven as the game is the fun will wear off after a bit so I can see why folks would spacebar story you already know, especially side-quests and flash points that you have run possibly hundreds of times. Also, since the advent of easy mode MMOs like WoW (and pretty ever MMO since) people find a perverse sense of pride in hitting cap as fast as they can. They can play how they want, it doesn't effect your experience unless you let it. And as mentioned before, if it is an exploit and they are abusing it rather than reporting it, they will get admins all up in their business and possibly get banned. Actions have consequences. I hope they are having fun. Edited December 14, 2011 by nullunit vocab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diet-Hutt Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) even people who rush 50 can be casual players, they are simply more interested in having all their options available before slowing down to enjoy other aspects of the game Sounds like the opposite of what "casual" even means. If they're sitting there for massive amounts of time to reach level 50 at the fastest rate possible, they're not "casual players". A casual player reaches lvl 50 "when they do". They enjoy the content that is available at the time. They don't go to the extreme just to reach "casual gameplay". - DH Edited December 14, 2011 by Diet-Hutt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptwonline Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Just to point this out- if people are using an exploit to level fast, it's a good thing that BW didn't open the floodgates and let everyone on at once. Now they have an opportunity to fix the issue before too many abuse it. The exploit is happening because not enough people were let in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptwonline Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 To me, they are missing out. This game is about the Journey as much as the desto. But, I say good for them. If that's how they want to play, I hope they have fun. They're not missing out. They'll have a lvl 50 to farm up stuff, make a lot of money, get their guilds ahead, etc...and can then do the story stuff later. it's almost like starting your account with a pre-made lvl 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethern Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't see the problem with leveling that fast. Honestly. I'd only be angry if I was competing for the world first level 50 toon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troxi Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 What lvl do you have to be to do warzones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluejayoo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) They're not missing out. They'll have a lvl 50 to farm up stuff, make a lot of money, get their guilds ahead, etc...and can then do the story stuff later. it's almost like starting your account with a pre-made lvl 50. Agreed. You might be stressing out about getting your first speeder, but they will just take their level 50 and farm for a bit, and then be able to get speeders the minute their alts hit the right level. There characters will stay in the best gear from crafts and twink purchases. They will be able to jump in and help friends that get stuck on tough flash points. These people are not missing the game, they are going to be able to experience more of the game leveraging their level 50's than you ever will, and they get the easy road to 50 thanks to what has to be one of the worst cases of missing a bug I've heard of. Edited December 14, 2011 by Bluejayoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesStarcaller Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 hopefully the warzone exploit will be addressed and taken care of soon. I have faith in bioware to do what they have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanquind Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I hope any character above level 20 by tomorrow morning gets a rollback to level 18 or something. Let the few legit players that got above 20 be pissed about it, but something needs to be done about the people using this exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviboley Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) they're members of the "level through pvp" scum-class that bioware catered to for some reason, what a stupid decision. I am leveling through PvP and I am only level 14. Do warzones end early? Yes. Am I getting the same amount of XP as I would if it did not end early. No way. At my level, a full match gives between 5-8k XP. One that ends early only gives around 400-800. This issue may be server or faction specific. Additionally, I do not see how this is the players fault, especially if all they are doing is playing warzones. Edited December 14, 2011 by leviboley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckskyline Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I said it once before.. name one other MMO that has ever had lvl 50's before launch? This is going to kill launch, and the economy. Thanks a lot you elitist day oners. Who are entitled to your day one access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golarz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Seriously... Juyo has level 30 players already... First day!!! Also a bunch from 25-29... How the hell are these people leveling so fast... By the time the rest of us get online, they will be 50... Warzone bug. Check out this topic http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=9301 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 What lvl do you have to be to do warzones Level 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neurath Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Talk on the pvp servers is that those in the high end lvl 30's have been banned. I don't know how accurate this is but they are certain they haven't seen anyone over level 30 for the last 7 hours... Edited December 14, 2011 by Neurath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElleRagu Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Rushing level in a theme park mmo is like running trough six flags and not going in any of the rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrolepsy Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I said it once before.. name one other MMO that has ever had lvl 50's before launch? This is going to kill launch, and the economy. Thanks a lot you elitist day oners. Who are entitled to your day one access. a) It doesn't affect you, stop whining. b) They will be dealt with by GMs. c) It won't kill launch, won't even affect it at all d) You can only list 50 things on AH, so that won't kill the economy. GMs can easily see if they're exploiting the economy and their level anyway. Please sit back and relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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