warstory Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 what r people hitting for? I am hearing other classes auto crits hitting for 17 - 28 k and I haven't even seen a 10k thunderblast? Is this by design? Or a bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ycoga Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 what r people hitting for? I am hearing other classes auto crits hitting for 17 - 28 k and I haven't even seen a 10k thunderblast? Is this by design? Or a bug I'll be impressed by the first screenhot I see of a 10k TB. ATM you can expect to get about 8k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheApocalyptican Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Bad gear gets you 8k maybe. I average like 10.5. Highest i think was like 12.5, unless you count Malaphar, in which case it's 28k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ycoga Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I keep on forgetting that PVE players exist! My bad, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheApocalyptican Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Ahh, yeah, in pvp, i think my highest is like 9.3 or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindariel Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I keep on forgetting that PVE players exist! *grabs pitchfork and torch* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenesi Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 And how much does it hit under force potency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ycoga Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 And how much does it hit under force potency? It's a good question; I'm not convinced that potency adds surge in 4.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xX-Archangel-Xx Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 And how much does it hit under force potency? potency do not increase ur stats of crit, its a passive crit u recieve so turbulence does not get affect by it. im 60 tb crit for like 9k 10k, so considering my 60 pt crit 22k and it doeas a LOT, yeah sorcs damage has left behind as ****, at least LOLthing, in madness is brainless and op as always i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ycoga Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 potency do not increase ur stats of crit, its a passive crit u recieve so turbulence does not get affect by it. In 4.0 turb should be affected by it though, because now surge is a product of crit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xX-Archangel-Xx Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 In 4.0 turb should be affected by it though, because now surge is a product of crit. trying right now, nothing changed. If u use potency on turbulence u just wasted a stack and hits like a drunk guy in a box fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 I think something is wrong here isn't there a 100% bonus on auto crits? So shouldn't we be seeing 18k crits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xX-Archangel-Xx Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I think something is wrong here isn't there a 100% bonus on auto crits? So shouldn't we be seeing 18k crits? Considering my pt aty 60 crits 23k energy burst while my 61 sorc 10k on tb xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Considering my pt aty 60 crits 23k energy burst while my 61 sorc 10k on tb xD Are you volunteering for TB to autocrit once per minute? Because TB autocrits 100% of the time on a 9s CD so quit smoking that stuff and comparing it to a 6pc autocrit every 60s. Edited October 23, 2015 by Gyronamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xX-Archangel-Xx Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Are you volunteering for TB to autocrit once per minute? Because TB autocrits 100% of the time on a 9s CD so quit smoking that stuff and comparing it to a 6pc autocrit every 60s. is more than twice the damage pal, the 9 sec is a BS, considering rail shot crits more than TB and is every 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 Are you volunteering for TB to autocrit once per minute? Because TB autocrits 100% of the time on a 9s CD so quit smoking that stuff and comparing it to a 6pc autocrit every 60s. Doesn't sniper get 28k every few secs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 anyways 9 k can't be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenesi Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Doesn't sniper get 28k every few secs Well, not exactly few - but yes. They promiced to convert crit chance to surge on autocrit abilities. And it does work this way for sniper - hence 28-35K ambushes. Looks like sages didn't recieve the same treatment Edited October 23, 2015 by Frenesi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 /sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Can a Dev or someone smarter than myself confirm the crit bonus is not applying to our class? Every class is running numbers but us are we that dead a class? Edited October 23, 2015 by warstory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindariel Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) I think something is wrong here isn't there a 100% bonus on auto crits? So shouldn't we be seeing 18k crits? Every percent of crit above 100% gets converted into critical damage. With 4.0 we lost 20% crit damage from talents and around 10-15% surge due to the stat conversion. Taking all this into account, it means that Thundering Blast hits basically for the same as pre 4.0 (assuming you're running around 30% crit). We went from ~90% crit damage to ~90% crit damage on TB. Edited October 23, 2015 by Sindariel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Every percent of crit above 100% gets converted into critical damage. With 4.0 we lost 20% crit damage from talents and around 10-15% surge due to the stat conversion. Taking all this into account, it means that Thundering Blast hits basically for the same as pre 4.0 (assuming you're running around 30% crit). We went from ~90% crit damage to ~90% crit damage on TB. Why in gods name did we get nerfed this bad? Can someone justify to me how we r hitting 2-4 times less than the other burst classes? How does this make it out of testing? Edited October 23, 2015 by warstory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusOfTides Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Could this be intentional due to the wording on Recklessness? I have noticed that upon activation the Crit chance buff is not reflected on the character sheet, so perhaps the way in which Recklessness works it does not necessarily affect our "crit chance." Either that, or its broken/bugged entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xX-Archangel-Xx Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Why in gods name did we get nerfed this bad? Can someone justify to me how we r hitting 2-4 times less than the other burst classes? How does this make it out of testing? because nobody plays lightning, when madness can face roll almost all with 0 efforts. Besides lightn ing even pre 4.0 were a joke compared to othet burst classes, since my arsenal out dps my sorc on single target vs aoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindariel Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Could this be intentional due to the wording on Recklessness? I have noticed that upon activation the Crit chance buff is not reflected on the character sheet, so perhaps the way in which Recklessness works it does not necessarily affect our "crit chance." Either that, or its broken/bugged entirely. I just tested it myself and i can confirm that Recklessness' critical chance does not get converted into critical damage when used with Thundering Blast. Definitely bugged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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