Babychka Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) The only issue I had was that before Gilgamesh and Seraphyne implemented their new rule, any significant roster changes would cripple any ability we had to post on this progression tracker thread. Before their post, I wasn't actually aware that "PUG" meant different toons, not just different individuals. When it came to actually pugging out for the Torque and Master and Blaster kills, we had 2 pugs for the Torque kill, according to our official roster at the time, and we had 0 pugs for the Master and Blaster kill, according to our official roster for that kill. Obviously you did not understand the rules that were established which may or may not be your fault. As Sera stated maybe she could have worded it more clearly. However yours is the first group to take major issue with the rules as they were. The 2 PUG rule was put in place to allow for roster changes over time however I'm not sure what you mean by significant roster changes. If you mean changing more than 2 toons from one fight to the next than yes the rules don't account for that because there is no realistic way to verify those alt toons as the same player. The lesson to be learned here is that posting a sarcastic reply, referencing an alleged desire by all teams to run 8 BH's, because you are ticked off that your clear doesn't qualify does no one any good. Its uncalled for and doesn't help your team and doesn't help the people tracking the progression to address your issue. Despite conflicting reports from the team leader and whoever else from your team that has posted I believe that the issue has been resolved. I think that Sera and anyone else involved have been rather gracious in considering your request and coming up with a solution especially considering the tone and content of your previous posts. Therefore imo I think that you owe her an apology or at the very least a sincere thank you, but that's just me. Edited February 20, 2015 by Babychka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorea Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) TL: DR for this thread, "I can't follow directions so I'm gonna get mad at the system." Also, thanks for doing this sera. Not your fault kids hurt themselves when they don't read the directions. Edited February 20, 2015 by cmorea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmerry Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 This thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorea Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Somebody took away the context for this post.... Edited February 21, 2015 by cmorea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorea Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 This just in: Announcement soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojomagro Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 <Crimson Sky> HM 8m Cora/Ruugar Pubbers 2/21 1:22 CST http://gyazo.com/b021d6c7dbee627692f0696fc628c317 http://imgur.com/XkcwfMu (epic proof photo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JowyBlight Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 <Crimson Sky> HM 8m Cora/Ruugar Pubbers 2/21 1:22 CST http://gyazo.com/b021d6c7dbee627692f0696fc628c317 http://imgur.com/XkcwfMu (epic proof photo) That is indeed an epic screen shot. W00T! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AireStyx Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Congrats to Crimson Sky on the server first clear of ravagers HM. Good luck on the Revan fight now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iimagiicii Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Gratz Crimson, GL on Revan Edited February 22, 2015 by iimagiicii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo_brother Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 First of all grats Crimson Sky! Second how does this kill count? if you compare their roster on the Master Blaster kill and the one on the Cora kill 3 names change. Doesn't that nullify the kill according to the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorea Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 First of all grats Crimson Sky! Second how does this kill count? if you compare their roster on the Master Blaster kill and the one on the Cora kill 3 names change. Doesn't that nullify the kill according to the rules? The first roster we posted was the underlurker kill, since our first 5 kills came before this threads creation. The M&B kill has two different toons than the lurker kill, the Cortanni kill has 2 different toons from the lurker shot. Both times we only had people on two different toons than our "Normal 8m raid team" as the rules stipulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theITfactor Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Hey guys, Hayward here - I haven't posted yet in this thread yet but wanted to make a few comments about things people have been posting and have brought to my attention. First off, the current system is hardcoded with HTML, and requires manual updates. We're developing a database-based replacement system that will allow guild/raid team leaders to create and manage their own rosters, including alts of main roster toons. These mains and alts would ONLY be able to be registered to one raid team, thus this would allow us to use alts on progression runs, without having to worry that they were also running with other progression teams. Screenshots would then be able to be submitted via form and the boss clear would be added to a submission queue, where a whole team of reviewers (including many GMs from the server) would be capable of approving it or denying it. Once approved, it would automatically be added to the database listing. We've got a lot of other features we're working on with TORCommunity so this will take a few weeks. In the meantime, please give feedback but understand this is a trial concept and we may still need to work out the kinks as we go. We're trying to do what makes the most sense but is also the easiest to maintain, so finding that balance may not happen immediately. Hope that clears things up! - Hayward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmerr Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 -snip- Well that all sounds great but how does that change how the thread works on the swtor forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDotter Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 These progression rules are silly to be honest. Kills are a kill no matter what composition, the aliens playing the account or the players from XYZ guild. Suppose this is swtor though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeraphyne Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 These progression rules are silly to be honest. Kills are a kill no matter what composition, the aliens playing the account or the players from XYZ guild. Suppose this is swtor though Thanks for your input, but the thread is going to go under some changes as far as rules soon to accommodate everyone. Appreciate you stopping in, have fun on Harb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeraphyne Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Alright, many things have come to pass since starting the thread from what I originally set out for it to accomplish til now. Things in life don't always turn out like one might hope and one ends up learning from those mistakes and shortcomings. My intentions were not of malice even though many raiders on this server now want to make me out to be a villain. Contrary to some assumptions, I don't play favorites and I'm not in-cahoots with any of the listed guilds. Also, Hayward, Gilgamesh, and Working as Intended have nothing to do with the rules or the creation of this thread beyond asking for me to be the moderator of it and giving me guidance on how to be diplomatic. They're not to blame. My apologies to those who think I've done poorly. It's my first self-moderated thread so I was bound to screw up. Going forward, those of you who are angry with me for this progression thread can hopefully forgive, move on and continue to participate. However, if you're wanting to hold a grudge then that's something I can't change. Now on to what needs to be said. 1. The progression thread Top 10 has changed. There are 2 Top 10s now for each operation available. One for guild progression and one for operation teams/pug groups. There isn't a pug rule, however, I believe the guilds need to be diligent enough to have the majority of your raid team showing guild tags and be in the guild with minimal PUGS involved. This will be needed verification of the kill shot screenshot. 2. Working as Intendeds BULO HM kill is now in place for the 10th spot on the leaderboard unless another guild comes forward and posts an earlier down. Team White Knight was removed from the guild progression leaderboards and moved to the operations teams leaderboard. Holocrons Team Pwntang is now listed 2nd for Master & Blaster as well. 3. If you still have issues with the rules at this point... I don't know what to tell you besides make your own thread lol Have fun and good luck with your progression! All records have been updated Edited February 25, 2015 by xeraphyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMurdaJedi Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Republic Gentlemen Jedi Covenant - Republic Team Platypus The Ravagers - 8-Man Hard Mode Sparky - 12/8/2014 8:54 PM EST (Before Thread) - Proof Quartermaster Bulo - 1/5/2015 9:59 PM EST (Before Thread) - Proof Torque - 2/5/2015 2:58 AM UTC - Proof Temple of Sacrifice - 8-Man Hard Mode Malaphar the Savage - 12/8/2014 10:26 PM EST (Before Thread) - Proof Sword Squadron Units - 1/26/2015 2:31 AM UTC - Proof Underlurker - 1/26/2015 3:08 AM UTC - Proof Revanite Commanders - 1/27/2015 4:41 AM UTC - Proof Team Dik Dik The Ravagers - 8-Man Hard Mode Sparky - 12/15/2014 8:57 PM EST (Before Thread) - Proof Quartermaster Bulo - 2/19/2015 3:26 AM UTC - Proof Temple of Sacrifice - 8-Man Hard Mode Malaphar the Savage - 1/8/2014 10:05 PM EST (Before Thread) - Proof Sword Squadron Units - 2/26/2015 3:27 AM UTC - Proof Team Green Squirrel Coming soon. Updated 2/26/2015 Republic Gentlemen - Team Dik Dik killed The Sword Squadron. Details in spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSandManzzz Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Torva Nex 8 man HM Progression (Victorious Secret Raid team) Empire Guild Updated 02/22/2015 ========================================== The Ravagers 8 man HM Sparky 12/10/2014 8:30:31 pm http://imgur.com/N8eyIHU Bulo 1/04/2015 4:45:01 pm http://imgur.com/uA1ReI4 Torque 1/28/2015 4:02:52 am (London UK Time) http://i.imgur.com/vrmzzjP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yYyWJHl.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9bKVy-F3E8 ======================================== Temple of Sacrifice 8 man HM Malaphor 12/10/2015 9:57:56 pm http://imgur.com/qW4LBRp Sword Squadron 02/22/2015 5:26:57 pm http://i.imgur.com/CdfOEv5.jpg http://imgur.com/fwvhMQq Achievment Underlurker 02/22/2015 5:31:27 pm http://i.imgur.com/GRUWtfw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7VYdSKk.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKNzA76jro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMurdaJedi Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Torva Nex 8 man HM Progression (Victorious Secret Raid team) Empire Guild Updated 02/22/2015 ========================================== The Ravagers 8 man HM Sparky 12/10/2014 8:30:31 pm http://imgur.com/N8eyIHU Bulo 1/04/2015 4:45:01 pm http://imgur.com/uA1ReI4 Torque 1/28/2015 4:02:52 am (London UK Time) http://i.imgur.com/vrmzzjP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yYyWJHl.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9bKVy-F3E8 ======================================== Temple of Sacrifice 8 man HM Malaphor 12/10/2015 9:57:56 pm http://imgur.com/qW4LBRp Sword Squadron 02/22/2015 5:26:57 pm http://i.imgur.com/CdfOEv5.jpg http://imgur.com/fwvhMQq Achievment Underlurker 02/22/2015 5:31:27 pm http://i.imgur.com/GRUWtfw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7VYdSKk.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKNzA76jro Sword Squadron to Underlurker in 5 minutes? Impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSandManzzz Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Sword Squadron to Underlurker in 5 minutes? Impressive. I don't do the recording or screenshots for my group they send me the links and i post them. Clearly we did not clear that in 5 mins. I just took the time from the screenshots and posted accordingly. Clearly and oversight on my part. My assumption is that the person who took this screenshot forgot to UTC it . They probably dragged UTC over the non UTC'ed screenshot after the fact and then re screenshot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysister Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) new Republic guild, Resurrection, attempting to squeeze in. if these aren't good enough for the top 10, then maybe we can be placed in the secondary lists. cleared HM Malaphar for the first time tonight, though no one took a screenshot as we didn't realize there was an open spot left for Malaphar on the top 10 list. all i have is a screen of my achievements and (times are in EST) here's an entry for our HM Bulo first clear we ran after Malaphar: screenshot (achievement ding is in the chat box) and though it looks like the top 10 for Bulo is filled already. no big deal if this won't work out. figured i'd at least try. our next entries will be better organized. Edited March 1, 2015 by happysister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felkroth Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I feel like I recognize that one dudes voice... sounds so familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death_By_Smiley Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Hey guys, I want to invite all guilds on this server to participate in a speed run challenge. Since Bioware killed their tournament, this will let guilds who have practiced speed running use and test their skills. Go here if interested: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=799679 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergy Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) HM8 Sword Squad, 3/4/15 10:33pm: http://i58.tinypic.com/afhq83.jpg EDIT: Apparently our Torque kill never got reported, here it is from 1/28/15 http://www.contraband-inc.com/progression/m/2273072/article/2754880 Should be #5 on the list. EDIT2: Looks like I did actually report it: HM8 Torque 1/28/15 9:38pm http://i62.tinypic.com/2vrs8ig.jpg Edited March 5, 2015 by Icebergy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babychka Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 The achievement popup and the time are obviously different because we actually downed it 2 weeks ago but ss didn't take. Therefore I moused over to show that it was 8 man HM. Team WhiteKnight 6:23:39 03/05/15 http://i.imgur.com/RFnRk0P.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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