rosikquit Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Unfortunately that's the sad truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulcalan Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 So much whine in this thread... as an anni marauder i'm loving the changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomiSotto Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Once I am done with leveling, I might give Mara another try, but for now she is farming the dailies. She is AMAZING at doing that. So, I guess, that's her niche. I am starting to wonder if she can solo Oricon commanders by now, on L60 and fully augmented 186s..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonPaulius Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Working as intended. Job of mara is to tank all CC, so range can do 1500+ DPS without interruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodrin Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Mara/sent is fine in regs. I can and usually do pull 900-1.5K DPS on bad teams running watchman and combat on my sent, and can go a bit north of 2K DPS on good teams. Problem is that other classes (primarily sage/sorc, sin/shadow, and jug/guardian) are much better than fine. I can regularly pull 1.5K DPS or better on terrible teams with my shadow running the completely overpowered serenity spec. And those three AC's are so much better than the sentinel in solo ranked that I will not play mine in ranked once the preseason is over. I really think that some other AC's need to be toned down before we even consider buffing sent/mara as some of their capabilities are really out of bounds with everything else out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanSollo Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Mara/sent is fine in regs. I can and usually do pull 900-1.5K DPS on bad teams running watchman and combat on my sent, and can go a bit north of 2K DPS on good teams. Problem is that other classes (primarily sage/sorc, sin/shadow, and jug/guardian) are much better than fine. I can regularly pull 1.5K DPS or better on terrible teams with my shadow running the completely overpowered serenity spec. And those three AC's are so much better than the sentinel in solo ranked that I will not play mine in ranked once the preseason is over. I really think that some other AC's need to be toned down before we even consider buffing sent/mara as some of their capabilities are really out of bounds with everything else out there. The problem isn't damage the problem is once your stunned if you don't have a dedicated healer you die in under 5 seconds even with only a single RDPS attacking you. Meanwhile killing other classes is like running the Ultramarathon except longer. Other classes have H2F, CC immunity, and Dodge. Where as we have Suicide by the Schwartz, which allows us to half kill ourselves while not damaging the enemy due to people stunning or rooting us. It's okay though we have rebuke which is a ****** version of Mental Defense while prevents more damage and is never on cool down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomiSotto Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Honestly, the day I see anything above 500 K DPS on any character, I will cry with happiness. I simply don't know how people do that. (Shrug) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravrohan Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Once I am done with leveling, I might give Mara another try, but for now she is farming the dailies. She is AMAZING at doing that. So, I guess, that's her niche. I am starting to wonder if she can solo Oricon commanders by now, on L60 and fully augmented 186s..... I can do it with Doc healing, even easier once I put him in 172's. I'm in full 186 gear with crafted enhancements, and mostly 178 augments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usarean Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 was running my mara up to 60 from 55 last couple days. i was actually respawning from deaths with more debuffs, and dots then i have buffs... hehe that's when you know a class is broken. when everyone stops what they are doing and hits you with a hit and forget attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosestick Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 that's when you know a class is broken. when everyone stops what they are doing and hits you with a hit and forget attack. You are doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadtro Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Yes this class has its problems, it was a couple of years ago when mara/sent were the dominant force in pvp but now they are at the bottom of the pile, with a tank or a healer helping the class is great but as a solo act it is doomed to fail. The only thing that will save this class is a root immunity, predation can break roots but considering how many classes have 1 or 2 each you will only be free a couple of seconds before we are stunned and killed anyway. Even if we were given a bit of a buff, until they sort out sorc & sin city we aren't going anywhere. Powertechs are destroying people now it is just a joke xD (kinda a laugh to try out though) We either need a talent that makes us cc immune during our saber ward and a lowered cooldown for it like a shadow/sin or have predation grant a root and mez immunty thoughout its duration, hard stuns can still work sure but not mezzez. I still enjoy the play style of this class but when i compare the effectiveness to pvp match i can't ignore the fact that my guardian can do just as much damage but have better defenses and taunts to protect team mates. If you are dying a bit, i have found that sitting at the back next to all the ranged and waiting for a sin/op/jugg or mara to jump one of the ranged players so you can pick them off with your damage whilst they are too busy focussing on trying to kill the ranged dps or healer. Remember maras can't dive in like juggs so there is no point in trying =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calamatiesend Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 If you are dying a bit, i have found that sitting at the back next to all the ranged and waiting for a sin/op/jugg or mara to jump one of the ranged players so you can pick them off with your damage whilst they are too busy focussing on trying to kill the ranged dps or healer. Remember maras can't dive in like juggs so there is no point in trying =] I agree with your advice, you have to pick and choose your moments. However, we should be able to dive like jugs.....we are melee dps and the warrior class! We used to be able to dive and cause havoc/mess with teams and thats what they need to return us to. It's a sad day when my shadow feels more like a true melee dps than my mara does. I fought a jug 1v1 today, did him almost 100k damage and lost, he did me about 50k. It was still a close fight but cmon.... 2 lives to my one??? Nice job devs, way to balance...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnedRemains Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Honestly, the day I see anything above 500 K DPS on any character, I will cry with happiness. I simply don't know how people do that. (Shrug) I do this quite regularly, I don't know how people don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishbindeinvater Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I do this quite regularly, I don't know how people don't. Depends on the warzone. And, if you are zerging or doing objectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyons_Crest Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I've been running my Sent for a couple years now... It was once a great character to play and it was a very viable class to run with in regs or ranked. However the defenses that the Sent / Mara have today can not compare with the other classes in the game. The fact is that Sents and Mara are at the bottom of the food chain right now. Those who disagree with this have not been in skilled pvp matches - Perhaps some are from Pve servers or what not but - those who pvp and enjoy it - all know that this class is garbage. Yes, it can burst a bit just like a sniper but once stunned it's over. G A M E - O V E R = G L O B A L E D The Defensive moves are worthless - Rebuke is the fist CD ( no longer cuts the mustard) Next is Saberward or Force Camo given the situation - Camo does help but is so short and temporary most are pretty much dead and without a healer to pick you up or a tank to cry too you are F K E D ! This Class needs a serious buff / make over defensively other wise it might as well be deleted as far as many PvPers are concerned. However there is always hope - Balance was horrible at one point in the game and now it's the hottest thing going. So perhaps a yr or two this can get fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALKLHA Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Agree again with the sentiments, the class is a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanSollo Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Agree again with the sentiments, the class is a mess. Don't worry they are buffing Guardian Tank damage in 3.1 which was desperately needed since they couldn't...uh...put out enough DPS as a tank? Cause you know all those tanks were screaming from the rooftops or at least they were talking about it, or yeah they didn't say **** about it were just like "it would be nice if you buffed our damage" immediate response from devs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanis Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Don't worry they are buffing Guardian Tank damage in 3.1 which was desperately needed since they couldn't...uh...put out enough DPS as a tank? Cause you know all those tanks were screaming from the rooftops or at least they were talking about it, or yeah they didn't say **** about it were just like "it would be nice if you buffed our damage" immediate response from devs. Betted my Tatooine Homestead that Sents will get no changes in 3.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanSollo Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Betted my Tatooine Homestead that Sents will get no changes in 3.1. Changes are confirmed for 3.1.1, but we have no details on what will actually change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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