DarthDymond Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) The Legendary Star Wars Expanded Universe Turns a New Page In order to give maximum creative freedom to the filmmakers and also preserve an element of surprise and discovery for the audience, Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will not tell the same story told in the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe. While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe. For example, elements of the EU are included in Star Wars Rebels. The Inquisitor, the Imperial Security Bureau, and Sienar Fleet Systems are story elements in the new animated series, and all these ideas find their origins in roleplaying game material published in the 1980s. Demand for past tales of the Expanded Universe will keep them in print, presented under the new Legends banner. On the screen, the first new canon to appear will be Star Wars Rebels. In print, the first new books to come from this creative collaboration include novels from Del Rey Books. First to be announced, John Jackson Miller is writing a novel that precedes the events of Star Wars Rebels and offers insight into a key character's backstory, with input directly from executive producers Dave Filoni, Simon Kinberg, and Greg Weisman. I don't think anyone is really surprised that the new films won't be beholden to the existing EU, besides having been pretty well stated beforehand, it really was the only move that would have made sense. "Taking elements from it" the way the Clone Wars did was really the best that EU fans could hope for - and will probably be best for the IP overall. I'm hoping that a dedicated "Legends" imprint will mean there is eventually the potential for that Universe (the current EU) to be continued in the future, a separate timeline like the difference between the mainstream Marvel comics and the Marvel Ultimates line for example. My hopes aren't high for that ever happening, but they do exist. Edited April 25, 2014 by DarthDymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtBombshell Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Does this mean that every single post RotJ game/book/comic is now non-canon? EDIT: Yes it does. Edited April 25, 2014 by LtBombshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadak Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I wonder what affect it will have on this game.. And will it continue to be supported even though its not part of the "new-EU" direction they are taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Interesting stuff, I just came to this after watching the video and to be honest I'm happy to with the direction their taking. As you said it was inevitable that the post-ROTJ would be overwritten, and I assume it will be rendered "non-canon" yet lots of elements and the general 'feel' will be incorporated into the movies. The best we could hope for. But the video, the video I liked because it showed a great deal of respect for the EU and a real desire to maintain that cohesive, singular storyline (you know, the one I'm ranting about all the time ) and its just cool to see the higher ups saying "the EU, look, it exists!" rather them being just some fun ol' stories. Loved seeing TOR, TFU etc. etc. Still, nothing we hadn't really figured out ourselves. I'd like to more specific information on exactly how the post-ROTJ is going to fit in to the cohesive canon. "Canon" though seemingly meaning "that which cannot be changed." Indeed given that the canon system is now internal, we should probably start treating canon as it actually means: a collection or list of sacred books accepted as genuine. Key word being sacred, basically the movies and TCW is the Shakespeare of the StarWars universe I gather. EDIT: I missed the whole "Legend" Banner thing, that is interesting, good move by Disney IMO. Edited April 25, 2014 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon_Runner Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of fan boys suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.... It's not going away, it's going under a separate banner which makes sense. Too much to try and fit into a movie franchise. And why make a new trilogy where 50% of your base knows the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sell-dog Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Wasn't the original plan of the movies to release a movie from the new trilogy every other year then have a stand alone movie in between? Ie 5 movies in a 5 year span? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtGeneralGezlin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Did a lot of people miss this? "While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe. For example, elements of the EU are included in Star Wars Rebels. The Inquisitor, the Imperial Security Bureau, and Sienar Fleet Systems are story elements in the new animated series, and all these ideas find their origins in roleplaying game material published in the 1980s." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) I wonder what affect it will have on this game.. And will it continue to be supported even though its not part of the "new-EU" direction they are taking. The Story Group has already shown support for TOR, heck it features heavily in the video. Edited April 25, 2014 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfa Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Well, the only said that post Jedi stuff won't be on screen, but Kotor is past stuff, so you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varium Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Continued... http://starwars.com/news/disney-publishing-worldwide-and-random-house-announce-relaunch-of-star-wars-adult-fiction-line.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Continued... http://starwars.com/news/disney-publishing-worldwide-and-random-house-announce-relaunch-of-star-wars-adult-fiction-line.htmlI don't know what this means for the parts of the EU these novels will be covering... but STAR WARS: LORDS OF THE SITH sounds awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLowlife Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of fan boys suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened..... Don't worry......I'm ok now. I knew it would eventually come to a decision like this. Tbh I understand....BUT at the same time, at this point none of the new Canon books they've announced has given me the same fanboy excitement I got when I first heard about the "Sword of the Jedi" series. Maybe I'll be more excited when they announce a book written by Troy Denning or Timothy Zahn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 It's not like we didn't see this coming. Still, this officially changes some things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaulderBenson Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) This was expected. The best thing about this is that right off the bat, Starkiller is now almost 100% guaranteed non-canon I think. That's awesome. I hated the Force Unleashed story; fun game though. It's going to be a blast to see what the future holds. Edited April 25, 2014 by CaulderBenson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLowlife Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 This was expected. The best thing about this is that right off the bat, Starkiller is now almost 100% guaranteed non-canon I think. That's awesome. I hated the Force Unleashed story; fun game though. I liked the story in TFU (pt 1 anyway LOL) My biggest concern is they've already said rebels won't be as dark as TCW, even tho it takes place during the reign of the empire which is arguably the darkest time in the galaxy. And now this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 It's not like we didn't see this coming. Still, this officially changes some things.Inb4 Sidious isn't the most powerful Sith Lord anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 So what about the non-post-ROTJ EU? Things like SOTE, KOTOR, TOR, TOJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 So what about the non-post-ROTJ EU? Things like SOTE, KOTOR, TOR, TOJ?As far as I'm aware they won't be impacted, but I'm not sure how they fit into the new canon system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Inb4 Sidious isn't the most powerful Sith Lord anymore. I've got loaded up in my shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Gorlock- Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 This makes me sick, pure greed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixdope Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 This makes me sick, pure greed Mmmmm your tears taste good. Bye bye dark empire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadCaneH Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) I've got mixed feelings about this. I've never got into the Post-ROTJ EU, but a lot of people held dearly to that. I'm kinda pissed off becaus I had just bought the Mandalorian Armor novel past month and it may be non-canon now. EDIT: Not just post-ROTJ, but everything EU before today is now under this "Legends" banner. Even KOTOR! Check this out: Edited April 25, 2014 by BadCaneH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisernick Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I've got mixed feelings about this. I've never got into the Post-ROTJ EU, but a lot of people held dearly to that. I'm kinda pissed off becaus I had just bought the Mandalorian Armor novel past month and it may be non-canon now. EDIT: Not just post-ROTJ, but everything EU before today is now under this "Legends" banner. Even KOTOR! Check this out: sooo this game technically isnt cannon anymore its legends?? well aint going to watch or read any new star wars stuff then, people may call it a overreaction but to put the history of star wars so far aside and say ok its not cannon its legends is just bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadCaneH Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Like I said, the post-ROTJ stuff is unknown to me, and the little I know I find it to be very odd. But f'cking up with the Old Republic stuff? Cmon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) sooo this game technically isnt cannon anymore its legends?? well aint going to watch or read any new star wars stuff then, people may call it a overreaction but to put the history of star wars so far aside and say ok its not cannon its legends is just bull. Like I said, the post-ROTJ stuff is unknown to me, and the little I know I find it to be very odd. But f'cking up with the Old Republic stuff? Cmon... Wait, people really thought they were going to say "Well, Thrawn's out, but the Chiss Ascendency was in SWTOR so that's gotta stay in" when making the new movies/shows/etc? All "canon" vs "Legends" means is "Will the new Movies and related media be required to take it into acount?" If it's "canon" then the answer is "yes", if it's "Legends" then the answer is "no, but we might chose to take inspiration from it". Edited April 25, 2014 by DarthDymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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